Jump to content

CHANGES: Rd 15 vs Essendon


titan_uranus

Recommended Posts

22 hours ago, Jaded said:

Agreed. We are not a bottom 4 side experimenting during a rebuild for goodness sake.

A PREMIERSHIP is at stake. We won't make any structural changes to the side unless forced to due to injury. It is like for like changes only. Hence if Weideman is out, we either bring in one of the Browns, or revert back to a smaller mobile forwardline like we had in the first 6 rounds. 

AbsolutelyJaded .  The above.

We HAVE a Premiership defence  and defensive strategy (such as langdon running back to help out) now. 

Alter at our peril.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The more I think about this game the more I think it needs to be a “statement”. I feel like every contender apart from us have shown the competition what happens when it ALL clicks and how devastating they can be. That’s not to say we haven’t had great wins but I’m talking beating a team into submission and after losing to the pies the players should be seething (and I’d be worries if they weren’t). 

Looking forward to seeing Jack back in the team, he adds an aggression and hunger that few can match. 

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Pates said:

The more I think about this game the more I think it needs to be a “statement”. I feel like every contender apart from us have shown the competition what happens when it ALL clicks and how devastating they can be. That’s not to say we haven’t had great wins but I’m talking beating a team into submission and after losing to the pies the players should be seething (and I’d be worries if they weren’t). 

Looking forward to seeing Jack back in the team, he adds an aggression and hunger that few can match. 

Yep, I'd love to see a wire to wire top shelf performance.

One where we are on, bombers play well and stay in striking distance to say 3/4 time. 

And we keep going and win by 6 plus goals. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I presume that May will play on Hooker, Hibbo on Stringer?

Hopefully Jack comes back this week. He would have been a welcome inclusion v the filth.

I presume that Sparrow will be dropped and Melksham will come into the side.

It goes without saying that Weid will be dropped and BBB will come in. (I did say it though.)

Link to comment
Share on other sites


6 minutes ago, bingers said:

I presume that May will play on Hooker, Hibbo on Stringer?

Hopefully Jack comes back this week. He would have been a welcome inclusion v the filth.

I presume that Sparrow will be dropped and Melksham will come into the side.

It goes without saying that Weid will be dropped and BBB will come in. (I did say it though.)

Stringer played a lot of midfield minutes against Hawthorn. I hope he does the same against us. We may be able to revisit the Jack Viney Made Me Cry thread.

  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Viney in for Sparrow

a Brown in for Weed (which ever one is in better form and is fit)

The weed is so down on confidence and we are not kicking it to him anyway, so he needs to go back

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I’m hoping that the B Brown mid-season/pre-season story is true, as it helps explain the continued selection of Weideman and Brown’s absence from even being an emergency. 
 

If there is truth to that, then I’m definitely hoping to see B Brown in and confident he can provide a genuine target. Given Viney has the all clear, he comes in for Sparrow. That equals a strong team. 

While we are all hoping to see the Dees smash an opposition team, especially those lower on the ladder, I think the reason we haven’t is we actually play a higher risk/reward game style against the top teams. Basically, watching the Collingwood game, we were waiting for their errors, but not taking any risks with ball in hand. One of the commentators noted we were playing on from a mark 7% of the time, and the Pies 37%. We have found ourselves behind in plenty of games against teams outside the 8 because we don’t take as many risks with the ball and back ourselves in. Think about the incredible chains of handball against the Tigers - we saw nothing like that against the Pies. In many other games against bottom clubs our superior fitness and pressure has prevailed. Against the top teams though we look a different side, a genuine contender. 

This game is once again a test of the demons mindset, of our courage - the willingness to attack from the first bounce - not wait for mistakes. 
 

Every time a question has been asked we have been emphatic in our response. I’m completely mystified by what will happen Saturday, but I’m more confident than I was 15 mins into the game against the Pies.

Go Dees!! 

 

Edited by Wylie
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Viney for Harmes, under the having a fair crack section, Sparrow had a good game and a merde un, 3rd lets the coaches see where he is at.

From what I recall, if Harmes has a poor run, it doesn't break until after a reset. I was very confused by his average returns on QB.

Weid for BBB like everyone else is saying.

I loathe the Bombers, and would love to see Stringer monstered in a Viney tackle. I think the bombers are sort of like us a few years ago, and they do have some skill. But we are next level, I also think their defence will be opened up by Kozzie.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, bingers said:

I presume that May will play on Hooker, Hibbo on Stringer?

Hopefully Jack comes back this week. He would have been a welcome inclusion v the filth.

I presume that Sparrow will be dropped and Melksham will come into the side.

It goes without saying that Weid will be dropped and BBB will come in. (I did say it though.)

Why will Melksham come in ?

Viney  Will and BBB and Weid and ??? Will be dropped. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If Jv comes in it will be Sparrow out.

Will the club bite the bullet and drop Weideman is the big one?

Will it go back to Melksham or roll the dice with one of the Browns?

This will be an interesting selection.

Im hoping its Bbb and he comes in and does what he used to....kick bags of goals on a reguliar basis for the rest of the season.

If he recaptures his form then I will much more confident about winning a flag.

We can still win games without him but it certainly would make a difference having a third tall that can hit the scoreboard and hold marks.

Come on Bbb.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ben Brown kicked a bag of four goals against Essendon in his 9th AFL game, from six marks. For good measure, he followed up with another bag of four from six marks against Essendon in his second AFL season. 

After his 49th AFL match, Sam Weideman has yet to kick a bag of four, and hasn't taken more than five marks in his past sixteen appearances - some of those considered the best games of his career. (Brown took six against Sydney).  

Ben Brown averages 2.9 goals (and 4.2 scores) against the Dons and six marks per match, 3.2 of those marks taken inside50. Sam Weideman averages 0.6 goals/scores and 0.3 marks inside50 vs. the same team.  

These are of course selective stats, but one of these blokes is a proven consistent performer at top level (and let's not forget BB only entered the AFL two years before Sam). I'd rather it was him in the team building fitness and form. 

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 hours ago, Pates said:

The more I think about this game the more I think it needs to be a “statement”. I feel like every contender apart from us have shown the competition what happens when it ALL clicks and how devastating they can be. That’s not to say we haven’t had great wins but I’m talking beating a team into submission and after losing to the pies the players should be seething (and I’d be worries if they weren’t). 

Looking forward to seeing Jack back in the team, he adds an aggression and hunger that few can match. 

Jack is the epitome of a contagion to play with mongrel across the team. Bring him in - fast! 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 minutes ago, Skuit said:

Ben Brown kicked a bag of four goals against Essendon in his 9th AFL game, from six marks. For good measure, he followed up with another bag of four from six marks against Essendon in his second AFL season. 

After his 49th AFL match, Sam Weideman has yet to kick a bag of four, and hasn't taken more than five marks in his past sixteen appearances - some of those considered the best games of his career. (Brown took six against Sydney).  

Ben Brown averages 2.9 goals (and 4.2 scores) against the Dons and six marks per match, 3.2 of those marks taken inside50. Sam Weideman averages 0.6 goals/scores and 0.3 marks inside50 vs. the same team.  

These are of course selective stats, but one of these blokes is a proven consistent performer at top level (and let's not forget BB only entered the AFL two years before Sam). I'd rather it was him in the team building fitness and form. 

Convincing and thought provoking - I like the idea of '...building fitness and form...' within the team. He's smart - it comes out in his best games so far - it also is a sign of adaptability and with his footballing experience, such adaptation to the 'new' Dees cannot take long. We just need him fit and in position to turn the tap on, not at a dribble, either.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 6/18/2021 at 12:36 PM, Roost it far said:

Out: Petty

In: Melksham 

Weideman moves to the backline, our forward line works better without BBB and Weideman. 

Yeah that makes sense. Seriously?

If you really had to do that you would try Weid in the backline at Casey. He doesn't deserve a spot in the side at the moment.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites


On 6/18/2021 at 4:48 PM, demon3165 said:

And how many clubs has he played for? So let's not get excited about him.

Mitch Brown has played at 3 clubs, 1 less than Martin Pike who played at 4 clubs and won 4 flags.

Your point was?

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, DEE fence said:

Viney for Harmes, under the having a fair crack section, Sparrow had a good game and a merde un, 3rd lets the coaches see where he is at.

From what I recall, if Harmes has a poor run, it doesn't break until after a reset. I was very confused by his average returns on QB.

Weid for BBB like everyone else is saying.

I loathe the Bombers, and would love to see Stringer monstered in a Viney tackle. I think the bombers are sort of like us a few years ago, and they do have some skill. But we are next level, I also think their defence will be opened up by Kozzie.

Harmes is going nowhere - meaning he is not making way for anyone atm

He will be tagging Parish 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I still favour Weideman over Ben Brown but potentially neither are in our best side. That said, Weideman has been disappointing in the last three weeks. If he is going to get such few chances, he needs to convert in front of goal at 70%+. To be fair though, the games have been on smaller grounds meaning he has not had many one-on-one chances and he has had strong direct opponents the last two weeks in Harris-Andrews and Moore.

I am just not convinced Ben Brown fits alongside our resting ruck. With Jackson in the side and Gawn's endurance, I think Gawn needs to be able to play as a forward for 20-30% of the game. (There are times we benefit from Jackson's energy around the ball.) And our pressure is non-existent with Brown and Gawn in the forward line.

Viney comes in for Sparrow for mine. Sparrow was excellent against the Lions but just gets caught holding the ball too often.

Melksham for Weideman would be the other change worth considering but only if we want to make a structural change. That said, Weideman would be expected to perform better on the MCG against a lesser defender.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

AFL contested mark ladder 2021:

Max Gawn (Melbourne) 38

Aaron Naughton (Western Bulldogs) 35

Harry McKay (Carlton) 35

Charlie Dixon (Port Adelaide) 34

Oscar Allen (West Coast) 28

Taylor Walker (Adelaide) 27

Aliir Aliir (Port Adelaide) 27

Harris Andrews (Brisbane Lions) 27

Jake Lever (Melbourne) 26

Jack Darling (West Coast) 26

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-man-mountain-gawn-rising-to-new-heights-in-demons-boom-season-20210621-p582z0.html

  • Like 2
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, binman said:

AFL contested mark ladder 2021:

Max Gawn (Melbourne) 38

Aaron Naughton (Western Bulldogs) 35

Harry McKay (Carlton) 35

Charlie Dixon (Port Adelaide) 34

Oscar Allen (West Coast) 28

Taylor Walker (Adelaide) 27

Aliir Aliir (Port Adelaide) 27

Harris Andrews (Brisbane Lions) 27

Jake Lever (Melbourne) 26

Jack Darling (West Coast) 26

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-man-mountain-gawn-rising-to-new-heights-in-demons-boom-season-20210621-p582z0.html

Nevermind BBB or Weed

Let's just play Max at FF and let Jacko ruck 75%+ of the game lol 

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    2024 Player Reviews: #8 Jake Lever

    The Demon’s key defender and backline leader had his share of injuries and niggles throughout the season which prevented him from performing at his peak.  Date of Birth: 5 March 1996 Height: 195cm Games MFC 2024: 18 Career Total: 178 Goals MFC 2024: 1 Career Total: 5

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 1

    2024 Player Reviews: #13 Clayton Oliver

    Lack of preparation after a problematic preseason prevented Oliver from reaching the high standards set before last year’s hamstring woes. He carried injury right through the back half of the season and was controversially involved in a potential move during the trade period that was ultimately shut down by the club. Date of Birth:  22 July 1997 Height:  189cm Games MFC 2024:  21 Career Total: 183 Goals MFC 2024: 3 Career Total: 54 Brownlow Medal Votes: 5

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 7

    BLOODY BLUES by Meggs

    The conclusion to Narrm’s home and away season was the inevitable let down by the bloody Blues  who meekly capitulated to the Bombers.   The 2024 season fixture handicapped the Demons chances from the get-go with Port Adelaide, Brisbane and Essendon advantaged with enough gimme games to ensure a tough road to the finals, especially after a slew of early season injuries to star players cost wins and percentage.     As we strode confidently through the gates of Prin

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    2024 Player Reviews: #5 Christian Petracca

    Melbourne’s most important player who dominated the first half of the season until his untimely injury in the Kings Birthday clash put an end to his season. At the time, he was on his way to many personal honours and the club in strong finals contention. When the season did end for Melbourne and Petracca was slowly recovering, he was engulfed in controversy about a possible move of clubs amid claims about his treatment by the club in the immediate aftermath of his injury. Date of Birth: 4 J

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 21

    2024 Player Reviews: #2 Jacob van Rooyen

    Strong marking youngster who plays forward and relief ruck, continued to make significant strides forward in his career path. The Demons have high hopes for van Rooyen as he stakes his claim to become an elite attacking forward. Date of Birth: 16 April 2003 Height: 193cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 41 Goals MFC 2024: 30 Career Total: 58 Brownlow Medal Votes: 1

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 26

    LIVE AND LET DIE by Meggs

    The Demons’ impressive late season charge to finals will most likely come unstuck this Saturday evening when the Bombers blow up the also-ran Blues in the Ikon Park double-header.   To mangle McCartney, what does it matter to ya? To have any chance to play next week Narrm has got a job to do and needs to do it well.  We’ve got to give the Pie sheilas hell, say live and let die! It’s Indigenous Round for this game and the chance to celebrate and engage with Aboriginal and Torres

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons

    2024 Player Reviews: #32 Tom Sparrow

    Had to shoulder more responsibility as the club’s injury concerns deepened but needs to step up more as he closes in on 100 games. Date of Birth: 31 May 2000 Height: 186cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 95 Goals MFC 2024: 6 Career Total: 34 Games CDFC: 1 Goals CDFL: 0

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 24

    2024 Player Reviews: #35 Harry Petty

    Date of Birth: 12 November 1999 Height: 197cm Games MFC 2024: 20 Career Total: 82 Goals MFC 2024: 9 Career Total: 28 Brownlow Medal Votes 3 Failed to fulfill the promise of his breakout six goal effort against the Tigers in 2023 and was generally disappointing as a key forward. It remains to be seen whether Simon Goodwin will persevere with him in attack or return him to the backline where he was an important cog in the club’s 2021 premiership success.

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 18

    2024 Player Reviews: #22 Blake Howes

    After a bright start to the season, playing mostly in defence, Howes seemed to lose his way in midseason but fought back with some good performances at Casey and finished the year back at AFL level. One to watch in 2024. Date of Birth: 7 March 2003 Height: 191cm Games MFC 2024: 15 Career Total:  15 Goals MFC 2024: 0 Career Total:  0 Games CDFC 2024: 6 Goals CDFC 2024: 0

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...