The 2021 All-Australian Team

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

59 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said:

Goody has got to be coach of the year doesn't he? a team most predicted to win finals finishing with what 17 wins, minor premiership

I'd also nearly pick Max as the AA Captain to be honest, i'd say it's him or Bont 

i cant remember but is there a coach in the AA squad?

[Demon17 5,188]

23 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

 

Bont will probably be made C

Only if its to do with who's the better player.

If its to do with leadership (which is what a skipper role is about) - its Gawn by a mile.

[Bates Mate 4,486]

1 hour ago, Dwight Schrute said:

Goody has got to be coach of the year doesn't he? a team most predicted to win finals finishing with what 17 wins, minor premiership

I'd also nearly pick Max as the AA Captain to be honest, i'd say it's him or Bont 

Agree on goody. I think Max cemented his Captain status on Saturday night. Bont went missing on Friday. Also will be Max's 5th AA they will reward that as well being Captain of the top team.

Bont has many years to get the gong.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

29 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Yep, unfortunately I think Nicnat will be the starting ruck.

Hmmm i did the comparison of Gawn and Nic Nat the other day. If you use the true ruck stats as the decision criteria then you Gawn by a mile.

If you then factor other stats i.e. contested marks, clearances, goals etc then it will really boil down to what the selectors favour. If its marks (contested or not) and goals, then Gawn again by a mile. The only area Nic Nat is more dominant at is tackles and clearances and lets face it, he was high in those numbers because he didn't have Oliver, Viney and Trac in the middle with him and he also shared a fair amount of ruck time with LJ. 

[Demon17 5,188]

58 minutes ago, Hopeful Demon said:

I think Gawn deserves to be selected as the starting ruckman more than Naitanui does. Even if it's true that Naitanui is the best tap ruckman, Gawn does a lot more damage on the ground and he impacts the scoreboard far more regularly.

game time comparisons:

Dees vs Eagle:   gawn 96%               NicNat           61%

Dees vs Cats (must win game)       Gawn              87%

Eagles vs Swans (must win game)  NicNat           73%

More game time allows Max to run down oponents and work up and down the ground, liske this week. Nic's great on the tap but I would rather the skipper out there longer than 3/4/or less of a game.

[WA Demon Boy 966]

Locks should be: Oliver, Gawn, Tracc and Lever (anyone else is a bonus) 

Gawn (c) would be amazing but not 100% on this. I don't mind Greene as (c), but not sure if that's possible. 

Goodwin should be coach (remember how much pressure he was on before the season). He's been incredible - has had great guidance with Yze and Chocco. But all credit to him. 

 

[titan_uranus 25,017]

Oliver, Lever, Petracca and Gawn should all be in the 22.

May is on the fringe.

Salem is a chance for the squad.

Fritsch and Pickett have had good seasons but I can't see them making the squad.

I maintain my view Gawn is the superior ruck to Naitanui. Naitanui is fawned over for his hit outs and clearances. Well he can have all the clearances he wants, they don't translate into superior impact: he and Gawn average the precise same number of score involvements per game (5.4), whilst Gawn averages more metres gained (309.9 per game to Naitanui's 211.3).

And then of course Gawn outdoes Naitanui in many other respects: he gets more disposals (including effective disposals), he gets back into defence more and therefore has more rebound 50s and intercept marks (the latter stat is 1.9 to 0.4 per game), he takes more than 3 times as many marks per game (5.2 to 1.5) and hits the scoreboard more (1.4 shots at goal to 0.6).  

[Mickey 4,684]

5 minutes ago, WA Demon Boy said:

Locks should be: Oliver, Gawn, Tracc and Lever (anyone else is a bonus) 

Gawn (c) would be amazing but not 100% on this. I don't mind Greene as (c), but not sure if that's possible. 

Goodwin should be coach (remember how much pressure he was on before the season). He's been incredible - has had great guidance with Yze and Chocco. But all credit to him. 

 

Goody would be a deserving coach, but I wouldn't be surprised if they gave it to Longmire. Sydney weren't expected to be anywhere near it, where as we have under performed for years.

Goody isn't really seen as a great coach yet, I don't think. That'll change should we win it all

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

I hope in the future there will two AA teams selected. So many of the choices are subjective. Who can say Harris Andrews in better than May?  Players need to be selected for actual positions and not cluttered with too many midfielders. There is also an opportunity for actual match ups say like Gawn vs Niknat. 

[Jaded No More 68,915]

Gawn will be a 5 time All Australian and the captain of the minor premiers. How can he not be made captain? 

He has been without a doubt the best and most consistent ruckman in the competition for half a decade now. 

Suggesting Toby Greene as captain is laughable. 

[Jaded No More 68,915]

27 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Oliver, Lever, Petracca and Gawn should all be in the 22.

May is on the fringe.

Salem is a chance for the squad.

Fritsch and Pickett have had good seasons but I can't see them making the squad.

I maintain my view Gawn is the superior ruck to Naitanui. Naitanui is fawned over for his hit outs and clearances. Well he can have all the clearances he wants, they don't translate into superior impact: he and Gawn average the precise same number of score involvements per game (5.4), whilst Gawn averages more metres gained (309.9 per game to Naitanui's 211.3).

And then of course Gawn outdoes Naitanui in many other respects: he gets more disposals (including effective disposals), he gets back into defence more and therefore has more rebound 50s and intercept marks (the latter stat is 1.9 to 0.4 per game), he takes more than 3 times as many marks per game (5.2 to 1.5) and hits the scoreboard more (1.4 shots at goal to 0.6).  

I don't understand how there is even an argument that Gawn isn't the best ruckman in the competition. He is the most consistent, and has the most impact both in the ruck and around the ground. Nic Nat can't play more than 10 minutes without blowing up. Good player but not Gawn level. 

[whatwhat say what 22,749]

 think this would be a worthy 22:

B: Stewart - May - Lever
HB: Dale - Andrews - Rich
C: Macrae - Wines - Miller
HF: Petracca - Hawkins - Zorko
F: Greene - McKay - Cameron
Foll:: Gawn - Oliver - Bontempelli
I/c: Parish - Stringer - Steele - Naitanui

think fritsch and salem will be in the 40-man squad

Edited August 23, 2021 by whatwhat say what

[BDA 22,753]

Nic Nat is so overweight it's an embarrassment. If there's one thing i just do not understand about professional athletes it's how they can front up in poor condition. Indicates low standards and total lack of professionalism. I wouldn't have him in my team until he got himself into shape. I don;t understand why Simpson allows it. Imagine what kind of player he would be if he had Maxy's dedication.

Maxy every day of the week over Nic Nat

[layzie 33,796]

37 minutes ago, Mickey said:

I don't think they'll pick May, although they should. Weitering or Andrew will get the pick with Lever, Aliir and couple  others.

Interesting if Gawn is starting ruck or on the bench.

My thoughts too. There's a decent case for Nic Nat.

[Hopeful Demon 1,517]

44 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Suggesting Toby Greene as captain is laughable. 

I couldn't imagine anything worse than Toby Greene as captain. Certainly up there with the most annoying footballers in the competition.

[drdrake 3,163]

30 minutes ago, BDA said:

Nic Nat is so overweight it's an embarrassment. If there's one thing i just do not understand about professional athletes it's how they can front up in poor condition. Indicates low standards and total lack of professionalism. I wouldn't have him in my team until he got himself into shape. I don;t understand why Simpson allows it. Imagine what kind of player he would be if he had Maxy's dedication.

Maxy every day of the week over Nic Nat

They have had to manage Nic Nat's game time from day 1, he actually had his best game for a long time on the weekend.  He is a very good tap ruckman mainly at centre bounces when he can jump at the contest, outside that he has little influence on a game.

Thank you Jack Watts, if we picked up Nic Nat in the 2008 draft we wouldn't have drafted Max in 2009.

[Wrecker46 2,975]

Is it too late for Bowe to get hbf? He's never lost a game 

[58er 6,435]

4 hours ago, Grapeviney said:

All-Australian team will be announced this Thursday, and while he's unlikely to get a spot in the final 22, surely Kozzy Pickett deserves to be part of the conversation. 

Has had the odd quiet patch, but finished 3rd in the league for tackles inside 50, and put 35 goals on the board. 

Outstanding effort. 

PS: ANB was #1 in the comp for tackles inside 50. Also outstanding.  

On goals can anyone publish a list of our goal scorers this season please.Dogga has started to get his share but we need Tmac to hit  the board again. 

[Accepting Mediocrity 1,418]

59 minutes ago, A F said:

Parish will be ahead of Miller or Steele, rightly or wrongly.

You might well be right. I can't see Miller not making it though - he has been huge. I prefer Steele over Parish. Parish had a purple patch mid year, and his best is probably more eye-catching, but I think Steele has been more consistent. Walsh is another that would be unlucky to miss.

 

1 hour ago, deespicable me said:

I like your side but I don't think Cameron is in AA form. I think Papley should get the nod. Apart from the fact he has had a great year, you probably have to put a Sydney Swan player in and Parker, Mills, Heeney and maybe Tom Hickey come into consideration and may make the squad but I don't think any of those will make the team and while Papley may not make it I think they'll go for a second full forward in the spot rather than Cameron. I spose we'll see.

Cameron has more goals and more tackles than Papley, so I think he gets in. I want a swans player in the side, but Hickey is behind Gawn and NicNat, and there have been better mids than Parker, Mills and Heeney. Buddy might be there best chance, but he's missed a lot of footy.

[In Harmes Way 7,771]

1 hour ago, Jaded said:

Suggesting Toby Greene as captain is laughable. 

GWS had to strongly encourage him to be the stand in captain when Coniglio went down, he didn't want the job. Not sure how you can have him as AA captain on that basis.

[Jaded No More 68,915]

1 minute ago, In Harmes Way said:

GWS had to strongly encourage him to be the stand in captain when Coniglio went down, he didn't want the job. Not sure how you can have him as AA captain on that basis.

He is an exceptional player, but doesn't seem like a leader's a-hole to be honest.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

18 minutes ago, Accepting Mediocrity said:

You might well be right. I can't see Miller not making it though - he has been huge. I prefer Steele over Parish. Parish had a purple patch mid year, and his best is probably more eye-catching, but I think Steele has been more consistent. Walsh is another that would be unlucky to miss.

 

Cameron has more goals and more tackles than Papley, so I think he gets in. I want a swans player in the side, but Hickey is behind Gawn and NicNat, and there have been better mids than Parker, Mills and Heeney. Buddy might be there best chance, but he's missed a lot of footy.

You mean Charlie Cameron right? Does he get in ahead of Greene? i reckon we will have 3 midfielders in the forward line (Trac, Stringer and Bonts to make way for more midfielders in the comp)

Edited August 23, 2021 by CYB

[DubDee 25,858]

Charlie Cameron has has an average year by his standards aside from last 6 games or so. No chance for AA. Maybe the squad 

[Maldonboy38 6,402]

I just can't do the NicNat love. Don't get me wrong, he is a freakish talent, and I respect his strengths, but he rarely impacts full games and can't play for longer than 5 mins without exhaustion. 

Gawn and Sean Darcy from Freo for me. 

[whatwhat say what 22,749]

fritsch, gawn, lever, may, oliver, petracca, salem in the 40 man squad

PICKETT WAS ROBBED!!! 😈

Edited August 23, 2021 by whatwhat say what