As of 2 minutes ago it's finally official; Harmes is set for a stint on the sidelines.

 

 

Injury Update: Harmes sidelined, Viney set for return

Injury List: Round 2

Michael Hibberd (ankle) — Test

Jake Melksham (hamstring) — Test

Jack Viney (foot) — Test

Mitch Brown (calf) — 1 Week

Joel Smith (finger) — 1 Week

Jay Lockhart (testicles) — 1 to 2 Weeks

Sam Weideman (leg) — 2 to 4 Weeks

Ben Brown (knee) — 4 to 6 Weeks

James Harmes (wrist) — 6 Weeks

Marty Hore (knee) — Season

Aaron Nietschke (knee) — Season

Mitch Brown.. out for a week

and Joel Smith appears !!

It doesn't look too bad to me.  The top three all played in the praccy match, a couple are only one week injuries, Lockhart is still out for (with?) a pair and the two key forwards are getting closer.

1 hour ago, Chelly said:

Injury Update: Harmes sidelined, Viney set for return

Injury List: Round 2

Michael Hibberd (ankle) — Test

Jake Melksham (hamstring) — Test

Jack Viney (foot) — Test

Mitch Brown (calf) — 1 Week

Joel Smith (finger) — 1 Week

Jay Lockhart (testicles) — 1 to 2 Weeks

Sam Weideman (leg) — 2 to 4 Weeks

Ben Brown (knee) — 4 to 6 Weeks

James Harmes (wrist) — 6 Weeks

Marty Hore (knee) — Season

Aaron Nietschke (knee) — Season

Weideman 2 weeks  (possibly)   ....  very nice.

3 hours ago, Ollie fan said:

How crap is the MFC website!? Burgo gives the injury report, quite obviously wasn’t going to talk about Harmes until word got out and then they inserted a section which talks about him. Typical of the website – keep the supporters completely in the dark if they possibly can.

There's 2 reasons why I don't care about this:

1. Why give St Kilda any inside information any earlier than necessary

2. If Harmes has the surgery they then get a decent prognosis and can report that with more accuracy. And it is another news story and more clicks on the website. It's crappy content but whatever.

 

Sucks for Harmes, he's had a pretty poor time of it since his bursting 2018. Part of that is him and part of that is poor positioning IMO. 6 weeks out sucks, I wonder how close they were to subbing him?

Good to see Weid progressing, but it's interesting because the word from the club seemed to have Brown ahead of him for a return date in the early stages. Brown 4-6 is not very encouraging.

2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

There's 2 reasons why I don't care about this:

1. Why give St Kilda any inside information any earlier than necessary

2. If Harmes has the surgery they then get a decent prognosis and can report that with more accuracy. And it is another news story and more clicks on the website. It's crappy content but whatever.

I don’t understand the theory about keeping them guessing.

if the opposition finds out at the last minute that a player is out and being replaced by a lesser player, how does that help us? It would surely lift their morale. And if the injured player is being replaced by a better player: wouldn’t that happen anyway, regardless of the injury.

10 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

I don’t understand the theory about keeping them guessing.

if the opposition finds out at the last minute that a player is out and being replaced by a lesser player, how does that help us? It would surely lift their morale. And if the injured player is being replaced by a better player: wouldn’t that happen anyway, regardless of the injury.

The Saints wont waste a single moment worrying about a matchup for James Harmes. "Keeping them guessing" is the same as saying "i have no idea myself". No offence intended to the prior poster.

Edited March 24, 20214 yr by ding
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1 hour ago, Ollie fan said:

I don’t understand the theory about keeping them guessing.

if the opposition finds out at the last minute that a player is out and being replaced by a lesser player, how does that help us? It would surely lift their morale. And if the injured player is being replaced by a better player: wouldn’t that happen anyway, regardless of the injury.

I see your a fan of the oli

Daisy Pearce (medial collateral ligament) — TBA

Looking much better this week even though M. Brown, J. Smith and Lockhart have nowhere to play and Jay's prognosis got somehow changed from "testicles" to "groin".

Injury List: Round 3

Mitch Brown (calf) — Available
Joel Smith (finger) — Available
Jay Lockhart (groin) — Available
Sam Weideman (leg) — 2 to 3 Weeks
Ben Brown (knee) — 3 to 5 Weeks
James Harmes (wrist) — 5 Weeks
Marty Hore (knee) — Season
Aaron Nietschke (knee) — Season

Had heard Brown and Weid were looking like returning at a similar time.  If Weid is ahead of Brown he might end up having a couple of matches to prove himself - will be very interesting to see how they manage the two of them, TMac, Fritsch and the resting ruckman.

19 minutes ago, Chelly said:

Looking much better this week even though M. Brown, J. Smith and Lockhart have nowhere to play and Jay's prognosis got somehow changed from "testicles" to "groin".

Injury List: Round 3

Mitch Brown (calf) — Available
Joel Smith (finger) — Available
Jay Lockhart (groin) — Available
Sam Weideman (leg) — 2 to 3 Weeks
Ben Brown (knee) — 3 to 5 Weeks
James Harmes (wrist) — 5 Weeks
Marty Hore (knee) — Season
Aaron Nietschke (knee) — Season

The whole secondary league is just crap really. 

20 minutes ago, Chelly said:

Looking much better this week even though M. Brown, J. Smith and Lockhart have nowhere to play and Jay's prognosis got somehow changed from "testicles" to "groin".

Injury List: Round 3

Mitch Brown (calf) — Available
Joel Smith (finger) — Available
Jay Lockhart (groin) — Available
Sam Weideman (leg) — 2 to 3 Weeks
Ben Brown (knee) — 3 to 5 Weeks
James Harmes (wrist) — 5 Weeks
Marty Hore (knee) — Season
Aaron Nietschke (knee) — Season

Three players available this week and nowhere to play them with no VFL practice matches. 

Very happy to see Weid is only a couple of weeks away and Benny Browns timeframe hasnt blown out.

3 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

Had heard Brown and Weid were looking like returning at a similar time.  If Weid is ahead of Brown he might end up having a couple of matches to prove himself - will be very interesting to see how they manage the two of them, TMac, Fritsch and the resting ruckman.

I find it hard to believe that the will return at the same time. Unless the current forwards lose form I don’t see a spot for the Weid. 

4 minutes ago, old dee said:

I find it hard to believe that the will return at the same time. Unless the current forwards lose form I don’t see a spot for the Weid. 

Sorry I mean that in interviews players had said they were on track to return from injury at the same time - it now looks like Weid is ahead of Brown in returning (from injury).  I imagine they will both play a bit at VFL level before joining the senior team

19 minutes ago, old dee said:

I find it hard to believe that the will return at the same time. Unless the current forwards lose form I don’t see a spot for the Weid. 

Weid for Jackson?

We lose some resting ruck ascendancy but gain some goal kicking ability, of which Jackson appears to have none of at the moment.

Not saying we should replace Weid with Jackson but unsure if we can fit another tall in.

 

17 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Not saying we should replace Weid with Jackson but unsure if we can fit another tall in.

 

This is what i am wondering about... when they are all fit, do we replace a small (spargo, ANB, Jones) with a tall (Ben Brown). making it TMac, Ben Brown and Jackson, with Fritsch and 2 smalls. I worry that we then won't apply enough pressure. Obviously talk of TMac going to wing (but then where does Brayshaw go)? Can deal with the problem when they are fit and ready i guess.

1 hour ago, deelusions from afar said:

Had heard Brown and Weid were looking like returning at a similar time.  If Weid is ahead of Brown he might end up having a couple of matches to prove himself - will be very interesting to see how they manage the two of them, TMac, Fritsch and the resting ruckman.

Weed said on the Gus and Gawny podcast that he will join in some training this week and look to play in the practice match in the VFL the week before round 1.  He mentioned that Brown was on track to play VFL rd 1 also.  So the VFL forward line for their rd 1 clash will consist of Ben Brown, Weed, Daw and Mitch Brown.  Good luck stopping that if they get enough supply. 

Personally i think the Weideman/ Jackson is a good problem to have, as they both are  learning their  craft, with an edge in versatility  to Jackson around the ball and to Weideman with goal kicking. Their strengths being capitalized on from up  field by the correct players will be commonplace hopefully this season.

47 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Weid for Jackson?

We lose some resting ruck ascendancy but gain some goal kicking ability, of which Jackson appears to have none of at the moment.

Not saying we should replace Weid with Jackson but unsure if we can fit another tall in.

 

Would appear to be the only spot.

one things for sure, we won't be dropped T Mac if he keeps up this form.  I expect him to get better over the nextr couple of weeks as his confidence grows too

30 minutes ago, DubDee said:

one things for sure, we won't be dropped T Mac if he keeps up this form.  I expect him to get better over the nextr couple of weeks as his confidence grows too

Hopefully none of the Media trash try to unsettle our lineups.