Expected to commence running in 4 weeks. 

I thought he was suppose to miss the whole season as @Nelo suggested??

  On 03/02/2021 at 23:00, dazzledavey36 said:

Expected to commence running in 4 weeks. 

I thought he was suppose to miss the whole season as @Nelo suggested??

Make it 4 to 6 surely.

  On 03/02/2021 at 22:57, Deepressing said:

Sounds like they don't really know whats wrong with his knee if they are doing an Arthroscopy.

There will be some cartilage floating around causing the swelling, they'll remove it, give it a wash out and chuck in some cortisone to stop it.

The problem is if he'll have any cartilage left behind.

Need to send him over to Germany for the special injections.

  On 03/02/2021 at 23:00, CYB said:

Not surprising, it was never going to be nothing. Interesting that it is cartilage damage - whether it is a rip in the cartilage or scar tissue hard to say, but these things are generally repairable. 

Cartilage damage/issues can be career ending. Tom Langdon from Collingwood for example.

  On 03/02/2021 at 23:02, Kent said:

Make it 4 to 6 surely.

Which takes you to about round 2 or 3 for a potential return.

My recollection DD is 4 to 6  isnt an exact number in most of our cases

We will see I suppose!?

  On 03/02/2021 at 10:24, Bring-Back-Powell said:

What was wrong with Templeton? Kicked 55 odd goals in 1984 including two bags of 8.

We’d be doing cartwheels these days if someone at the club managed this.

He was a prolific goal kicker with the Doggies but was cruelled by two knee injuries from what I can remember, just before being acquired by the Dees. Nothing much was wrong with him with his ability to score goals for the MFC, however, the amount of goals that he had consistently kicked for the Doggies was not replicated at the Dees due to those severe and recurring injuries. Most of us, in the day, were jumping backward somersaults of delight at his acquisition; many of us were saddened by his debilitating knee and mobility problems that hampered a continuity of the many, many goals across many, many games that he was once able to achieve with Foot-is-cry. He truly was an absolute star forward - one of the best of all time - and largely unstoppable; his ability was observable from time to time in the red'n'blue - but was also short-lived and cut short a brilliant career. Up one week, down the next few, back in the team again, in recuperation. He was significantly handicapped by the longitudinal effects of the aforementioned injuries (the Doggies realised that he would struggle and traded him - otherwise, if he had not been so hampered in the legs, the MFC would have no chance of ever recruiting him off Footscray, and neither would any other team in the former VFL.) Templeton was one of the absolute greats who fell off the shelf in a time when knee injuries and subsequent surgeries were a very risky business.

 

Edited February 3, 20214 yr by Deemania since 56

  On 03/02/2021 at 23:03, Deepressing said:

Cartilage damage/issues can be career ending. Tom Langdon from Collingwood for example.

Yep they certainly can be if you dont have much cartilage tissue left which is then what leads to OA (ala Tom Langdon). But the fact that he was not in any pain is what you need to factor in, which suggests (not definitively) that you don't have any bone on bone interaction as that would most definitely generate a inflammatory response resulting in stiffness and pain. Obviously this is all taken at face value and as I have learned personally no hard rules when it comes to your bodies own unique response.

  On 03/02/2021 at 23:00, dazzledavey36 said:

Expected to commence running in 4 weeks. 

I thought he was suppose to miss the whole season as @Nelo suggested??

Let’s just wait until he plays a game then I’ll eat humble pie. 

  On 03/02/2021 at 23:07, Deemania since 56 said:

He was a prolific goal kicker with the Doggies but was cruelled by two knee injuries from what I can remember, just before being acquired by the Dees. Nothing much was wrong with him with his ability to score goals for the MFC, however, the amount of goals that he had consistently kicked for the Doggies was not replicated at the Dees due to those severe and recurring injuries. Most of us, in the day, were jumping backward somersaults of delight at his acquisition; many of us were saddened by his debilitating knee and mobility problems that hampered a continuity of the many, many goals across many, many games that he was once able to achieve with Foot-is-cry. He truly was an absolute star forward - one of the best of all time - and largely unstoppable; his ability was observable from time to time in the red'n'blue - but was also short-lived and cut short a brilliant career. Up one week, down the next few, back in the team again, in recuperation. He was significantly handicapped by the longitudinal effects of the aforementioned injuries (the Doggies realised that he would struggle and traded him - otherwise, if he had not been so hampered in the legs, the MFC would have no chance of ever recruiting him off Footscray, and neither would any other team in the former VFL.) Templeton was one of the absolute greats who fell off the shelf in a time when knee injuries and subsequent surgeries were a very risky business.

 

I also recall he could hardly kick a ball more than 35 metres in his last year with us.

guh “We anticipate Ben will be in a position to commence running four weeks following surgery..."

 

That is not what we wanted. 

  On 03/02/2021 at 22:56, Deepressing said:

 

 
https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/857822/ben-brown-to-undergo-surgery

Damn! 
 

I’m off to the shops to stock up on toilet roll.

  On 03/02/2021 at 11:10, Dee Zephyr said:

Not sure if T Mac on the wing will work or not, but maybe trying him on the wing has to do with endurance. He looks a lot leaner. Heard on radio with less rotations this season you will need blokes on the wings that can run all day and it’s one position you might have to leave out there longer.

 I hate the talk of Tmac going to the wing. 

His field kicking is bang average. We need A grade ball users in the wing! especially when our midfield are all inside bulls!

An Arthroscopy  to repair minor cartilage  under one of the best surgeons. I believe it is a good outcome.

Could be back within the early rounds. I would take that under the circumstances, 

 

  On 03/02/2021 at 23:03, dazzledavey36 said:

Which takes you to about round 2 or 3 for a potential return.

4 to 6??

So thats the old dave Misson Season?

  On 03/02/2021 at 02:10, loges said:

Does anyone actually believe the club didn't thoroughly get him checked out before signing?

This was going to be my exact comment. No one, not 1 single one of us, knows what goes into recruiting any player, stop pretending you do. I can understand the fear of losing him long term but the truth is, until something is said we don't know. What ifs and plain old guessing you know what is going on is pointless.

  On 04/02/2021 at 00:06, nosoupforme said:

An Arthroscopy  to repair minor cartilage  under one of the best surgeons. I believe it is a good outcome.

Could be back within the early rounds. I would take that under the circumstances, 

 

i would have thought arthroscopy indicates they don't know what's wrong with his knee - explorative rather than determinative

won't play til round 6 at the earliest i suspect

I'm not an expert but this doesn't sound too serious. Best be conservative, get the knee right and make sure he's right for the rest of the season, including finals.

  On 04/02/2021 at 00:11, whatwhatsaywhat said:

i would have thought arthroscopy indicates they don't know what's wrong with his knee - explorative rather than determinative

won't play til round 6 at the earliest i suspect

Arthroscopy is a surgical procedure orthopaedic surgeons use to visualize, diagnose, and treat problems within a joint. 

Yes, the word comes from two Greek words, "arthro" - joint and "skopein" - to look, meaning literally "to look within the joint", but the surgeon uses the arthroscope ( the small camera which displays pictures on a video monitor ) as a guide for his miniature surgical instruments.

So hopefully the procedure was minor and Ben recovers quickly because the small incisions result in less pain for patients, less joint stiffness, and shortens the time for recovery.

  On 04/02/2021 at 00:06, nosoupforme said:

An Arthroscopy  to repair minor cartilage  under one of the best surgeons. I believe it is a good outcome.

Could be back within the early rounds. I would take that under the circumstances, 

 

"tis but a scratch'

Hes done.  Even if he gets back on the park he will be  a shadow of his former self.

I think we will be ok.  Weideman and Luke Jackson looked great together last season before LJ's injury.

Edited February 4, 20214 yr by Pickett2Jackson

  On 04/02/2021 at 00:42, Dame Gaga said:

Arthroscopy is a surgical procedure orthopaedic surgeons use to visualize, diagnose, and treat problems within a joint. 

Yes, the word comes from two Greek words, "arthro" - joint and "skopein" - to look, meaning literally "to look within the joint", but the surgeon uses the arthroscope ( the small camera which displays pictures on a video monitor ) as a guide for his miniature surgical instruments.

So hopefully the procedure was minor and Ben recovers quickly because the small incisions result in less pain for patients, less joint stiffness, and shortens the time for recovery.

So  Doctor Gaga , are you surmising that Ben will be ready to play Round 1 ?    Sounds promising .

  On 04/02/2021 at 00:06, Doug Reemer said:

 I hate the talk of Tmac going to the wing. 

His field kicking is bang average. We need A grade ball users in the wing! especially when our midfield are all inside bulls!

But he is a good runner and provides a good marking target coming out of defense to be a link between defense and offense. Having Gawn on one flank/wing and TMac down the centre or opposing flank/wing should help spread opposition defense's as we will be less predictable coming out of defense (ie not just bombing long to Gawn every time) - that's the hope anyway.

  On 04/02/2021 at 00:11, whatwhatsaywhat said:

i would have thought arthroscopy indicates they don't know what's wrong with his knee - explorative rather than determinative

won't play til round 6 at the earliest i suspect

Sometimes arthroscopes are exploratory and sometimes they are just used to clean out the joint following a previous surgery.

  On 04/02/2021 at 01:03, Dr. Gonzo said:

But he is a good runner and provides a good marking target coming out of defense to be a link between defense and offense. Having Gawn on one flank/wing and TMac down the centre or opposing flank/wing should help spread opposition defense's as we will be less predictable coming out of defense (ie not just bombing long to Gawn every time) - that's the hope anyway.

So play him as a high half fwd. Don't waste him on the wing.