Jackson Extends Until 2022

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,658]

As stated last week, it was never in doubt. 
 

People like Jay Clark need to take a long hard look at themselves!!!

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,658]

46 minutes ago, No Plan B said:

Only one year added to current deal. Would have liked at least double that. Happy though. The guy did some insane things in his first year and you can see he was one of the most popular guys at the hub based on player IG stories and the social media releases over the journey.

That’s the contract that was always gonna he done, for both club and Jackson it’s the right move.

[Deeoldfart 8,016]

Now that news turned a crap day into something much better for me!

LJ will make huge strides in the next couple of years.  Why would he commit to a long term deal now?  Much better to defer for a couple of years when his real worth will be known, and he will get paid accordingly. 

[Demon3 2,541]

we have 2 years now to push hard for the finals. It really is on teh club to make finals, capitalise on talent we have and get the club out of the mediocrity of mid table.  The club cannot expect players to stay in a side that has delivered sweet f all in terms of success.

Build it and they will come (and stay)

[Sir Why You Little 37,027]

It is now up to the MFC to win Finals, to give LJ a reason to stay longer. 
 

it’s a business 

[Diamond_Jim 12,567]

1 hour ago, McQueen said:

1 year?

Great to have an extension but I’m a bit underwhelmed. 

x 2

[deebug 1,754]

Great news?

 

[McQueen 17,864]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Do you mean you've been underwhelmed by Jackson or by the length of the contract extension?

The length of the extension. 
 

I can appreciate all the new variables players, managers and clubs are dealing with but 1 year is an outlier imo. 

[spalding 1,128]

37 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

we have 2 years now to push hard for the finals. It really is on teh club to make finals, capitalise on talent we have and get the club out of the mediocrity of mid table.  The club cannot expect players to stay in a side that has delivered sweet f all in terms of success.

Build it and they will come (and stay)

I get tired with this "it is really on the club to make finals" commentary that seems to completely over look that at least some of the onus is on the players.

As bad as many seem to think Goodwin is at coaching, 2018 would seem to suggest that if they don't make it in 2021 it can't be 100% his fault

[spalding 1,128]

If LJ believes in himself he would have been nuts to extend beyond 2022 - as he could be worth so much more than he is now (either to us or to another club).

Its when the player is seeking the long term deal that you need to be wary, as it suggests that they themselves (or their manager) is seeking to maximise a good run of form,  or see their football mortality coming either due to age or injury. Jack Viney and Tmac are good examples of this. Problem is that someone else will often be prepared to pay what they are asking at the time so more often than not they get it.

[Docs Demons 1,790]

Fantastic news with this 1 year extension. Good move by him and club. He now has 2 seasons to prove himself and gain a better contract in 22 

[dworship 3,342]

23 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

x 2

If you look through the contract lists there seems to be an attempt to spread the years so that we don't find ourselves in a Woods type position. I don't know if it would be comfortable to renegotiate all 3 "go home factor" players in the same year.

[Mel Bourne 4,515]

Not long enough. 

[nosoupforme 3,085]

Great news LJ is  put aside for now as he is contracted to the end of 2022. 

 Now for Clayton Oliver the most important signing to come that would make it perfect.

[Diamond_Jim 12,567]

5 minutes ago, dworship said:

If you look through the contract lists there seems to be an attempt to spread the years so that we don't find ourselves in a Woods type position. I don't know if it would be comfortable to renegotiate all 3 "go home factor" players in the same year.

The norm for recruits is a two year extension on their opening two years.

One year extension is definitely an oddity. Money wise for the club it will cost more as well if he is successful.

Sure you can spin it on so many grounds but it remains an outlier.

[Sir Why You Little 37,027]

4 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

The norm for recruits is a two year extension on their opening two years.

One year extension is definitely an oddity. Money wise for the club it will cost more as well if he is successful.

Sure you can spin it on so many grounds but it remains an outlier.

We recruited a Young Talent from Interstate 

We have to make him want to stay...

It’s a Business 

[Demon3 2,541]

28 minutes ago, spalding said:

I get tired with this "it is really on the club to make finals" commentary that seems to completely over look that at least some of the onus is on the players.

As bad as many seem to think Goodwin is at coaching, 2018 would seem to suggest that if they don't make it in 2021 it can't be 100% his fault

When i say the club i mean players as well, of course its on them, its one the coaches, the players and the football club. Everyone.

[The Chazz 4,077]

28 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We recruited a Young Talent from Interstate 

We have to make him want to stay...

It’s a Business 

The point is, SWYL, that we recruit this young talent to help make us better.  If, in 2 years, we aren't better, then part of that responsibility has to fall back on the young talent that we've brought it.  They contribute to us being better.

[dazzledavey36 54,844]

Dogga! ?

[Sir Why You Little 37,027]

17 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

The point is, SWYL, that we recruit this young talent to help make us better.  If, in 2 years, we aren't better, then part of that responsibility has to fall back on the young talent that we've brought it.  They contribute to us being better.

He will be a talent. Yes we have to guide and push him to extract that talent. But if we don’t or can’t, he will leave. 
We should know the answer in 2 years

[Demon_spurs 1,846]

I have a work mate from WA who had Luke over at his house a few weeks ago (his son played with both LJ and Riv), ......anyhow my mate was asking when he was gojng to come back and play for the West Coast, whereas LJ shook his head gave a fist pump and a big smile and said "GO DEES!!!!". He's a beauty alright.

[PaulRB 6,361]

With the addition of Ben Brown, Luke has the best learning environment and mentors for his development over the next 2-3 years, in each of those areas where he could grow and play...

1. Tall forward - Ben Brown
2. Ruck - Max Gawn
3. Ruck rover/midfielder - Christian Petracca/ Clayton Oliver

Add the coaches and opportunity to play in a team just starting to bloom into a finals regular (i know NOTHING is gauranteed), and he's in the best place he could be.

[hemingway 7,625]

Very philosophical these days. As we have seen over recent weeks, contracts are becoming less important. They reflect intention today (by club and player) but not in the future. Jackson has the opportunity to improve his value over the next two seasons and then have every club including those from WA pursue  him. 

Whether we can hold onto our young talent will be determined by team success and salary cap issues. Even then other variables can play a part such as the Perth go home factor.  For players like Oliver and Petracca it’s success and money. 

Add to success and money, loyalty, but only for some. 

With money, clubs are going to be constrained by salary cap issues, and the Collingwood mess is the current example. At any one time there will always be a club that can work the cap in order to secure a top player. 

Sadly, it’s become a meat market and all clubs will see top players leave. Often player loyalty is to the detriment of the player. You can’t blame the players who have a limited time to make their money and enjoy team success. 

Supporters will have to like  it or lump it. When the team is successful it becomes easier to like it, but seeing players leave a struggling club means that many supporters will lose heart in their club. 

I don’t see the future being a bright one for the older and/or  loyal supporters. The latest set of trades, I find disheartening and not good for the heart and soul of the game. Or the culture of clubs or the AFL. 

[Adam The God 30,218]

2 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I assume his management took the one year, while the cap is low, then will look for a real payday when he’s proven himself this year and next.  If the economy improves by end of 2021, his next contract could be huge.

It won't. The next 4-5 years will be beyond stagnant. 

I don't like the one year contract. Commit a bit longer. We took the punt on you at pick 3. I'll take the one year, but not particularly happy about it.

[spirit of norm smith 16,436]

Great news. Everybody do the Happy dance !! 
 

 

why would he ever go back  !! They shut their borders to us “over East “.