10 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

I heard a whisper that the Bombers are very keen on Tmac and that's where he's likely to land. not sure if that's been posted on here but the whisper was that he's had several chats with Rutten and they're keen on him at FB 

Maybe their departing chief pharmacist has left “something special” in the bottom drawer that will cure Tom’s mystery injury?

If TMac remains "on the table" much longer rigor mortis is going to set in. 

Whether TMac shows  what he has got depends on getting his body right. People forget he had turf toe , a debilitating injury. A serious cartilage tear that required surgery and a long recuperation and this year his ankle was not good. Clubs never tell the whole story and players carry a variety of injuries. He certainly looked overweight this year and his leg injuries limited him. Only time will tell if he come good but the message at MFC is that if he stays he will need to play down back if brown makes it to the club IMO.

Ironically if he does go and we are light for tall backs Oscar may get another contract!!!!

46 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

TMac has started doing alot of personal training already to get super fit again and shed some kilos.

Wherever he plays I’d say he is desperate  to prove the doubters wrong.

Shame he didnt do it last preseason

That said unless we get a good swap or salary relief I would be happy to take the chance on him coming good

Edited October 30, 20204 yr by Kent

7 minutes ago, Older demon said:

Whether TMac shows  what he has got depends on getting his body right. People forget he had turf toe , a debilitating injury. A serious cartilage tear that required surgery and a long recuperation and this year his ankle was not good. Clubs never tell the whole story and players carry a variety of injuries. He certainly looked overweight this year and his leg injuries limited him. Only time will tell if he come good but the message at MFC is that if he stays he will need to play down back if brown makes it to the club IMO.

Ironically if he does go and we are light for tall backs Oscar may get another contract!!!!

I understand all that so why play him if so injured. Also the fact that the club indicating  that he is available to move  sends a pretty strong message to Tom and his management that the club doesn't really think he will come good.

2 hours ago, wheaters31 said:

Demons players traded out in the last 5 years...

- Jeremy Howe

- Jimmy Toumpass

- Jack Fitzpatrick

- Lynden Dunn

- Jack Watts

- Dean Kent

- Jesse Hogan

- Dom Tyson

- Sam Frost

 

Really hard to argue that it's "so Melbourne" to trade out a player and then they become a star as literally only 1 player out of 9 have carried on and played decent consistent footy at their next clubs. 

Most of these players we got maximum value from both on the field and then in trade.

 

4 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Demons players traded out in the last 5 years...

- Jeremy Howe

- Jimmy Toumpass

- Jack Fitzpatrick

- Lynden Dunn

- Jack Watts

- Dean Kent

- Jesse Hogan

- Dom Tyson

- Sam Frost

 

Really hard to argue that it's "so Melbourne" to trade out a player and then they become a star as literally only 1 player out of 9 have carried on and played decent consistent footy at their next clubs. 

Most of these players we got maximum value from both on the field and then in trade.

 

Can't argue with any of that however Frost played well for Hawthorn this year and Kent played finals for St Kilda as well getting near BOG against us in an early 2019 game. 

Time will tell if both players carve out good careers at their next clubs.

 

7 minutes ago, Kent said:

I understand all that so why play him if so injured. Also the fact that the club indicating  that he is available to move  sends a pretty strong message to Tom and his management that the club doesn't really think he will come good.

Potentially, or the club just simply has a chance to bring in a true full forward who has shown a consistent ability to kick goals and sees Tom (more so Tom's salary) as being redundant. 

 

Just now, GCDee said:

Potentially, or the club just simply has a chance to bring in a true full forward who has shown a consistent ability to kick goals and sees Tom (more so Tom's salary) as being redundant. 

 

 

Just now, GCDee said:

Potentially, or the club just simply has a chance to bring in a true full forward who has shown a consistent ability to kick goals and sees Tom (more so Tom's salary) as being redundant. 

 

Yes GC I understand the potential that Ben is a significant upgrade on Tom

38 minutes ago, Kent said:

Shame he didnt do it last preseason

That said unless we get a good swap or salary relief I would be happy to take the chance on him coming good

He was told to put on weight last year.

If we can do a salary dump (Dons?/GWS?), that’s all I really care about. Take the money, and spend it on Big Ben Brown.

47 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Can't argue with any of that however Frost played well for Hawthorn this year and Kent played finals for St Kilda as well getting near BOG against us in an early 2019 game. 

Time will tell if both players carve out good careers at their next clubs.

 

It's almost like Frost's year has been elevated because he wasn't horrible and in fact had good games where he defended well.

He was no better than he's been at Melbourne.  Hawthorn got what they paid for, i.e. the good the bad and the ugly.

Kent was Kent.  He was a fringe player at Melbourne and he's a fringe player at St Kilda.

30 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

He was told to put on weight last year.

Why would they do that?

I HAVE MET TOM AND STOOD BESIDE HIM AT THE airport in Bali in 2018

He was a seriously huge being and very nice. My view would be if I were Tom I would have resisted the order to gain weight.

More dumb decisions from the FD

1 hour ago, DeeZee said:

He was told to put on weight last year.

Has this been substantiated DZ or has it just become folklore?

Doesn’t make any sense to me after knee and ankle injuries 

I could not think of an any more Melbourne situation than paying for a player that kicks a bag of goals on you.

2 hours ago, Kent said:

Why would they do that?

I HAVE MET TOM AND STOOD BESIDE HIM AT THE airport in Bali in 2018

He was a seriously huge being and very nice. My view would be if I were Tom I would have resisted the order to gain weight.

More dumb decisions from the FD

tom mcdonald 'seriously huge'. ?? jesus christ, how small are u?

3 hours ago, Matt said:

If we can do a salary dump (Dons?/GWS?), that’s all I really care about. Take the money, and spend it on Big Ben Brown.

It’s not needed for Brown. It’s needed to re-sign Clarry and others etc. 

On 10/27/2020 at 3:21 PM, adonski said:

Maybe fair, but would you want T Mac as a defender on 700k a year with Frost-esque decision making? I wouldn't. 

Frost-esque? Frosty was becoming ice-cool, thoughtful and capable. Just what on-ground experience can bring.

We sacrificed this advantage to our onfield successes to play the 'Oh-Must We' half of the TMac siblings. I'd still have him (Frost) at CHB for us, even though it is regarded as abstract by many, and is impossible, now that he has been traded to critical and needy observers and analyses at Whoreform where, in his first sojourn season in the new jumper was regarded as a member of their top ten players.

 

1 hour ago, Dr.D said:

tom mcdonald 'seriously huge'. ?? jesus christ, how small are u?

I Am 189cm and 100kh and you?

T Mac certainly didn't look like he needed to put on weight

So you are suggesting the weight gain was a good idea

23 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Frost-esque? Frosty was becoming ice-cool, thoughtful and capable. Just what on-ground experience can bring.

We sacrificed this advantage to our onfield successes to play the 'Oh-Must We' half of the TMac siblings. I'd still have him (Frost) at CHB for us, even though it is regarded as abstract by many, and is impossible, now that he has been traded to critical and needy observers and analyses at Whoreform where, in his first sojourn season in the new jumper was regarded as a member of their top ten players.

 

The second round pick we got for Frosty will likely secure us Ben Brown. a major improvement to our list overall.

I loved Frosty's heart but he was a liability down back, the cause of more heart attacks amongst the dees faithful that any other player i can think of.

4 hours ago, GCDee said:

Demons players traded out in the last 5 years...

- Jeremy Howe ✅

- Jimmy Toumpass❌

- Jack Fitzpatrick❌

- Lynden Dunn❌

- Jack Watts❌

- Dean Kent✅

- Jesse Hogan❌

- Dom Tyson❌

- Sam Frost✅

 

Really hard to argue that it's "so Melbourne" to trade out a player and then they become a star as literally only 1 player out of 9 have carried on and played decent consistent footy at their next clubs. 

Most of these players we got maximum value from both on the field and then in trade.

 

I think it’s 3/9 went ok to be playing decent footy at their new club. 

42 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

It’s not needed for Brown. It’s needed to re-sign Clarry and others etc. 

That’s great we can get Brown, without needing to offload TMac first. Gotta get it done to re-sign the others then.

5 hours ago, GCDee said:

Demons players traded out in the last 5 years...

- Jeremy Howe

- Jimmy Toumpass

- Jack Fitzpatrick

- Lynden Dunn

- Jack Watts

- Dean Kent

- Jesse Hogan

- Dom Tyson

- Sam Frost

 

only got burnt by Howe & Frost realistically, and i guess if u look around the comp Stef Martin has done well for himself and before that Scotty Thompson? not many others tbf we haven't really brought through many stars for others to nab in recent times lmao

1 hour ago, Kent said:

I Am 189cm and 100kh and you?

T Mac certainly didn't look like he needed to put on weight

So you are suggesting the weight gain was a good idea

When the Ox did his 3rd knee he was told to put on weight, that seemed to work pretty well.

12 minutes ago, Turner said:

only got burnt by Howe & Frost realistically, and i guess if u look around the comp Stef Martin has done well for himself and before that Scotty Thompson? not many others tbf we haven't really brought through many stars for others to nab in recent times lmao

Absolute nonsense.