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Yeah, nah. Me thinks not, Gus, Jack, James, Clayton & Christian are pretty tight and why would you want to split them up???

 
On 9/25/2020 at 10:31 PM, drysdale demon said:

I am

Just because you have absolutely no contacts in even low places, you just believe what you want to. 

 
19 hours ago, Biffen said:

Keep losing, wasting everyones time and all our guns will leave. The past two years are enough losing.

If we have so many guns why do we keep losing?
Surely some of the responsibilty goes on them.
 

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1 hour ago, Fork 'em said:

If we have so many guns why do we keep losing?
Surely some of the responsibilty goes on them.
 

My guess or opinion is that our output this year was very good from our Guns Aand B graders ie top 10/12 in the B andF zBUT our last 6/8 in the team did not provide the depth and support we expected and needed.

I class Hannan Harmes Jetta AVB ANB Smith and Oscar in this category.

Hunt Has a level he can go to like the lady game Baker When tried was a pleasant surprise and other than his disposal on some occasions was a little ragged  plus Spargo put together 2 great games vs Woods and Giants Where he hit the scoreboard but was not so prominent in a couple of the othersBut Charlie generally can be defensive but we need much more than that consistently. He had developed and 2031 should see that even further.

Thats why we should be looking at 3 of Ben Brown or Joe Daniher or Jarrod Polec Or AdamSaad or Will Brodie or Peter  Wright ( if Pruess goes).

Our depth is a myth except for Sparrow as we don't know how Jordan  or Bedford Will be fir to lack of opportunity,

All players have room for development and the Assistant  Coaches need to be Replaced to give fresh ideas and break down Goody's  stubborn approach to players and roles within the team and to have major input in our Game Plan for 2012 and beyond.


14 hours ago, DeeZee said:

Brayshaw has much more upside than Polec.

My brother an avid Nth supporter, says Polec is good but slowing down and losing his speed and run.

If we did this trade we would regret it.

Oh well, that settles that. Your brother, the Kangas fan says he is slowing. Interesting, has he seen him live this year. Maybe we would, that can happen, remeber Brayshaw is one head know from being finished.

9 hours ago, goodwindees said:

Just because you have absolutely no contacts in even low places, you just believe what you want to. 

Well, I think I will just cry now.

 
28 minutes ago, Half forward flank said:

How so?

 

Why would you trade for a guy who has similar career stats but is three years older and has been to three clubs? No upside in swapping the two. Is Polec a leader? No is he a match winner? No Is he a team player? From all accounts No... Statistical comparison of the two in the link below, based over a career so far it’s even pegging. Even if you compared on this season and Brayshaw hasn’t been at his best and they are neck and neck - It’s Brayshaw everyday of the week for mine, you’d only consider Polec if you didn’t have to give up much. A swap of players doesn’t make any sense. Brayshaw has a higher ceiling and is 3 years younger.  
 

https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/Compare?comparisonTab=h2h&playerIds=CD_I290738,CD_I298279

1 hour ago, wattsindawes said:

Why would you trade for a guy who has similar career stats but is three years older and has been to three clubs? No upside in swapping the two. Is Polec a leader? No is he a match winner? No Is he a team player? From all accounts No... Statistical comparison of the two in the link below, based over a career so far it’s even pegging. Even if you compared on this season and Brayshaw hasn’t been at his best and they are neck and neck - It’s Brayshaw everyday of the week for mine, you’d only consider Polec if you didn’t have to give up much. A swap of players doesn’t make any sense. Brayshaw has a higher ceiling and is 3 years younger.  
 

https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/Compare?comparisonTab=h2h&playerIds=CD_I290738,CD_I298279

Thats why I said consider?  Brayshaw is one head knock from being finished and unlikely to play for another 5-6 years the way he plays.


I thought this was a thread about Clayton Oliver?

13 hours ago, 58er said:

My guess or opinion is that our output this year was very good from our Guns Aand B graders ie top 10/12 in the B andF zBUT our last 6/8 in the team did not provide the depth and support we expected and needed.

I class Hannan Harmes Jetta AVB ANB Smith and Oscar in this category.

Hunt Has a level he can go to like the lady game Baker When tried was a pleasant surprise and other than his disposal on some occasions was a little ragged  plus Spargo put together 2 great games vs Woods and Giants Where he hit the scoreboard but was not so prominent in a couple of the othersBut Charlie generally can be defensive but we need much more than that consistently. He had developed and 2031 should see that even further.

Thats why we should be looking at 3 of Ben Brown or Joe Daniher or Jarrod Polec Or AdamSaad or Will Brodie or Peter  Wright ( if Pruess goes).

Our depth is a myth except for Sparrow as we don't know how Jordan  or Bedford Will be fir to lack of opportunity,

All players have room for development and the Assistant  Coaches need to be Replaced to give fresh ideas and break down Goody's  stubborn approach to players and roles within the team and to have major input in our Game Plan for 2012 and beyond.

Nice to see you're giving Spargo plenty of time

On 9/27/2020 at 12:12 PM, Half forward flank said:

It would be a break on snipping.

 

On 9/27/2020 at 4:19 PM, drysdale demon said:

I'm not a hairdresser pal, I haven't snipped anyone.

Maybe a mohel?


On 9/23/2020 at 11:53 PM, Tom Dyson said:

I would not handle losing Oliver at all, really hope this is all just conjecture and Mcclure trying to stay relevant. Tracc talked about Oliver and himself stepping up into the more mature leader type role. Can't see any credibility in this story at all and Mcclure should get an absolute serve for this if it isnt true. 

 Petracca stays Oliver does too it is simple.   2  peas in a pod.   Mcclure the dribbling dreamer !    

 

Edited by nosoupforme

Before this thread goes back to being about Oliver,  curious why the rumour about a player wanting to explore trades made everyone jump to think about our mids,
Surely it makes more sense and the media has already indicated this that it is probably more likely to be a rumour regarding Pruess or TMac?  Both have a couple of years to run don't they? 

One of the gronky Facebook pages is reporting Oliver is disappointed with finishing 5th in the BnF and has therefore requested a trade.

Utter rubbish from the Member's End, but thought I'd put it out there anyway.

5 minutes ago, A F said:

One of the gronky Facebook pages is reporting Oliver is disappointed with finishing 5th in the BnF and has therefore requested a trade.

Utter rubbish from the Member's End, but thought I'd put it out there anyway.

I know which page you’re talking about, it’s a satire page which older people take seriously for some reason.


5 minutes ago, A F said:

One of the gronky Facebook pages is reporting Oliver is disappointed with finishing 5th in the BnF and has therefore requested a trade.

Utter rubbish from the Member's End, but thought I'd put it out there anyway.

There's just no way he goes to the Blues. If he's still unsigned near the end of 2021 I'll be worried of course.

Tom Morris was on a podcast a few days ago though saying that Oliver was angry about finishing 5th in the Bluey. His opinion was that's just how he is. He's a competitor, maybe a bit immature and has the ego that goes with those things. He was saying he didn't think any of it was a reflection on the club or Goodwin.

1 minute ago, nacnud said:

I know which page you’re talking about, it’s a satire page which older people take seriously for some reason.

It it the paper that proposed a swap over Anthony McDonald Tippa and Sloane at one stage? Or something like that? Think I know the one you're thinking of haha

11 minutes ago, adonski said:

It it the paper that proposed a swap over Anthony McDonald Tippa and Sloane at one stage? Or something like that? Think I know the one you're thinking of haha

Yeah that’ll be the one

 
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Interesting what you find on Essendon bigfooty..

One of my friends knows a few fox footy commentators. There’s truth to the Oliver rumour. But it does look like Carlton are in the box seat for him.
Not sure how they’ll manage Williams, Oliver and Saad. In addition to all the players they’ve just re-signed, and no clarity on what the cap will be, so we’ll see how that goes.”

With a bit of follow up..

That he [Oliver] isn’t happy at the Dees and would be open to a trade.
Dees are apparently looking to get into the first round for draft picks. And would consider a deal (that was obviously good for them).
Viney, Brayshaw and Oliver were all options. But Oliver was the one more open to a move.”

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All I will say is that I would not be surprised if there is legs to this rumour.

Garry Lyon has been hinting at a potential bombshell trade that's about to hit, and with his links to Melbourne, I would not be surprised if this is the Oliver to Blues rumour that's swirling around.

 


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