CHANGES: Rd 14 vs St Kilda

[ProperDee 1,698]

40 minutes ago, Coq au vin said:

But we fail big time against good opposition.

Ah, good. Conservatism.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

I’ve got a feeling they are preparing us for a Josh Wagner call up

[Coq au vin 755]

15 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Excellent stuff. Can't stop laughing.

As to your "analysis" of the recruiting: what has any of that got to do with your horrendous argument that we're like Adelaide?

1. We won’t win the premiership this year.

2. We fall over under any pressure against good opposition.

3. We’ve failed very soon after achieving finals success.

4. We’ve given away good players who’ve then achieved at other clubs. 

Just like the Crows.

Shall I go on?

Edited August 23, 2020 by Coq au vin

[titan_uranus 24,684]

1 minute ago, Coq au vin said:

1. We won’t win the premiership this year.

2. We fall over under any pressure against good opposition.

3. We’ve failed very soon after achieving finals success.

4. We’ve given away good players who’ve then achieved at other clubs. 
 

shall I go on?

1. So the 16 clubs other than Adelaide who all fail to win the premiership this year will be poor sides like Adelaide?

2. What's that got to do with the winless Adelaide?

3. This is your best comparison between us and Adelaide?

4. What's that go to do with the winless Adelaide? And without hindsight, which were the good players we gave away?

Sure, go on if you've got some better reasoning than this. 

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

52 minutes ago, Coq au vin said:

They lost by 2 points to the Bears.

Yes, and we lost to the Bears by 4 points meaning the Saints are twice as good as us.. we are screwed.

[dazzledavey36 52,942]

Maybe this bloke could come in?

https://mobile.twitter.com/melbournefc/status/1297452413125660674/photo/1

[Lord Nev 13,512]

29 minutes ago, Forest Demon said:

I’ve got a feeling they are preparing us for a Josh Wagner call up

Not a fan, but if he's earned it then why not?

About time we started selected players based on form and performance rather than name.

[Coq au vin 755]

28 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

1. So the 16 clubs other than Adelaide who all fail to win the premiership this year will be poor sides like Adelaide?

2. What's that got to do with the winless Adelaide?

3. This is your best comparison between us and Adelaide?

4. What's that go to do with the winless Adelaide? And without hindsight, which were the good players we gave away?

Sure, go on if you've got some better reasoning than this. 

1. Yes. The objective of all AFL clubs is to win the premiership. Anything less is a failure.

2. Anything less than no. 1 means nothing. Especially after 56 years of no premiership..

3. Don’t be silly.

4. Ron Barassi

Peter Keenan

Stan Alves

Paul Callery

Earl Spalding

Gerard Healy

Jeff Farmer

Peter Walsh

Darren Jolly

Scott Thompson

James Frawley

Jeremy Howe

Stefan Martin
and multiple missed draft picks and trade opportunities,

to start with,

there’s lots more.

I’ll have a think...

A good stretch under anaesthetic could fix your fissure.

 

Edited August 23, 2020 by Coq au vin

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,860]

32 minutes ago, Forest Demon said:

I’ve got a feeling they are preparing us for a Josh Wagner call up

I have never thought he has had a clear run at it and  truthfully give me Wagner over Harmes at half back. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

29 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

And without hindsight, which were the good players we gave away?

 

2 minutes ago, Coq au vin said:

Peter Walsh

What?

 

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,860]

1 hour ago, Coq au vin said:

Pickett is a small flea who is overrated. Hannan has big potential and kicks goals. Give Hannan a chance.

Picket had 21 pressure acts and should have kicked two. Hannan has had how many chances? 

[picket fence 16,707]

As Usual we will make the 5 sacrificial lamb changes when the real core will still retain places because the coach is blindsided!!

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

Beat the Saints and Swans and we will be sitting 6th if other results go as expected.  At worst we would be 7th.

This St Kilda game cant come along fast enough.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Beat the Saints and Swans and we will be sitting 6th if other results go as expected.  At worst we would be 7th.

This St Kilda game cant come along fast enough.

Please don't use that 'f' word when talking about an upcoming game against St Kilda...

 

[Cards13 9,117]

Unfortunately you can’t drop weak willed, ingrained Melbourneitis and bring in sustain dogged, mongrel desire to win. Will make no difference who comes or goes this week or any week for the rest of the season. 

[Cards13 9,117]

Why are people discussing Jones as an in, he is injured isn’t he? Slight quad tear means season over? 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Just now, Cards13 said:

Why are people discussing Jones as an in, he is injured isn’t he? Slight quad tear means season over? 

Mahoney said on the broadcast it was tightness and thought he'd be right for this week.

(Granted Mahoney isn't a doctor, Jones hadn't had scans, and neither can predict the future tho)

[spirit of norm smith 15,288]

13 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

outs. Sparrow (inj).

Tmcd slow 

Vdberg ineffective 

Hannan clueless

Pickett unlit dynamite - looks dangerous but harmless 

Preuss huge heart but lacks smarts

Spargo little boy in a mans game 

 

in. Brown Baker Bedford Rivers Bennell Gawn c.wagner

Why?
Brown replaces Tmcd  
Baker for pace 
Bedford replaces Pickett
Rivers has run and skill. 
Bennell kicks goals
Gawn is our skipper and a star,
C.wagner can actually compete 

lockhart. May. lever

Hibberd. Tomlinson. Salem 

Langdon. Viney. Baker

Melksham. Brown. Bennell 

Bedford Weid Fritsch 

Gawn Petracca oliver 

Rivers c.wagner brayshaw Harmes 

After watching the Saints today, we WILL need the speed of Rivers and Baker. It’s that obvious that our outside speed needs 2-3 additions.  I also thought Salem was caught out several times and his legs couldn’t keep up at crucial times. 

[WERRIDEE 5,356]

5 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

After watching the Saints today, we WILL need the speed of Rivers and Baker. It’s that obvious that our outside speed needs 2-3 additions.  I also thought Salem was caught out several times and his legs couldn’t keep up at crucial times. 

Baker is the exact player we need in the side but for most of the year he's done nothing in the scratch matches but the last 2 matches seem promising. I wish they would do a report on every player for the demons that played. No mention of Bennell or Bedford. 

[spirit of norm smith 15,288]

I hope Bedford and Bennell are ready. Would replace Pickett and Vandenburg who were both out of their depth v dogs. 

[Flower Magic 776]

IN: Gawn, Rivers, Baker, Jones (if fit, if not then Hunt)

OUT: Preuss, Hannan, Pickett, Sparrow (inj)

Don't understand how anyone thinks Bennell is up to it based on his games in 2020. McDonald stays. He is slow, but he's quicker than Preuss! The fact that Melksham and Spargo hold their places reflects just how poor our forward line is.

[Earl Hood 6,063]

For the Saints who will replicate the Dogs match play, run and switch play we need to add some pace and defensive forward pressure. Lockhart goes to a forward pocket with instructions to chase & tackle. Jetta comes in down back. Viney plays defensive forward and Harmes takes an on ball tagging role. Jones and Gawn  come in for some leadership and passion.  Brown in for TMac if he can pinch hit in the ruck. Need to look at Rivers, Bedford and Hunt on the bench. As to who comes out, take your pick after last week, likely Pruess, TMacc, Kossie, Spargo and/or Hannan! Sparrow injured. 

Edited August 23, 2020 by Earl Hood

[Pates 9,625]

1 hour ago, Flower Magic said:

IN: Gawn, Rivers, Baker, Jones (if fit, if not then Hunt)

OUT: Preuss, Hannan, Pickett, Sparrow (inj)

Don't understand how anyone thinks Bennell is up to it based on his games in 2020. McDonald stays. He is slow, but he's quicker than Preuss! The fact that Melksham and Spargo hold their places reflects just how poor our forward line is.

I think that's harsh on Bennell for this year, he's had some decent games without lighting the world on fire but certainly his last game wasn't up to scratch. It's intriguing that we haven't really heard much about him since his last game so my thoughts are that they probably aren't looking to push him back into the line up any time soon.

I think we could see him bob up towards the end of the year and who knows he could hit his 2020 peak at that point which would make him a weapon to unleash. 

I also personally agree with the point on Tom over Preuss, I think TMac would give us more across the ground and get to more contests. But jeez he must be close to being dropped for Brown.

[Cheesy D. Pun 1,762]

4 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Picket had 21 pressure acts and should have kicked two. Hannan has had how many chances? 

If anything, we need another Kozzy.

[whatwhat say what 22,237]

1 hour ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

If anything, we need another Kozzy.

go get mosquito

still reckon the changes will be fairly minimal - gawn and rivers to come in for preuss and sparrow

i would personally be adding t mac, hannan and / or spargo to the list of outs but get the feeling they'll stick with the devil we know