THE RUN HOME 2020

[BDA 20,018]

6 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

It's beautiful isn't it - how this beloved club allows us to have the full gamut of the human experience, not just year after year, not just round after round annually, not even quarter after quarter, but 6 minute intervals within quarters.

I for one wouldn't change that, for the consistent boooooring certainty that you would get with being, I dunno, a WCE, Geelong or Richmond supporter. 

I’ve had enough of the rollercoaster. Some boring certainty would suit me just fine.

[BDA 20,018]

3 hours ago, Nelo said:

Actually did the ladder predictor, we made the 8 and then went on a massive streak and won the flag  

 

 

That would be a lengendary run Nelo. The only way it could be any better is if we beat collingwood in the granny

[DubDee 20,517]

1 hour ago, Uncle Fester said:

Ummm life. 
Look of course I hate seeing us lose and I’d love to see us hold the cup before I die, but things are more important. 
I haven’t been able to see my kids for 6 months. A friend died and I couldn’t go to their funeral. My job is on the skin of its teeth - very day to day. 
So yeah as much as I love watching my team do well, it’s not the end of the world if they don’t. It’s a game. A fun game and a great distraction from the serious, but just a game.

I hear ya. forgive the off the cuff dodgy gag

sounds like you are doing it tougher than most.  I hope things improve quickly

and a Dees win wouldn't hurt

[Bitter but optimistic 21,232]

5 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

do you think we will be required to register for the grand finals ticket quota as in usual years?

My membership guarantees my a ticket Jim - so i'll be there !

[kev martin 9,047]

20 hours ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Thats called an uncle.

Not in the gender fluid expression of humanity, where people are what they feel they are.

They are also supported to be "that", by a more accepting society.

There are bigots out there who want to tell others to be like them.

Have you not heard about the trans community? 

 

Edited September 15, 2020 by kev martin

[58er 5,607]

On 9/14/2020 at 8:51 AM, Hogan2014 said:

Imagine if this club just won the games it should have won...  can see 2017 repeat 

The reality is that in the last minute if both the Cats snd Lions games we had opportunities on the forward line and flummoxed BOTH.

Geelong  was the half hearted sling approach from Adam Tomlinson who with some cool heads up from say a Gawn Or Viney ( Jones was absent I think) could have seriously lined up that shot he got the distance easily and a point resulted. End of story.

Just as bad was the amateur hour ( minute) from Hannan and Fritsch. At just between the diamond and 50 m line Hannan had possession and kicks to Fritsch leading into his wrong pocket ( a common fault) and the ball is marked just over the line by Fritta. Then follows the 50 m penalty fir a slow handover Of the ball. A long shot fir a winning goal based on Fritta season long 19.20 and some outs haunting us. BUT all along Hannan missed Viney on his own clear of an opponent about 30 m out in front of goal who could have Iced the goal and time fir us to win.

So very Melbourne I can hear you say !!
Yes we have won 3 close games also plus Suns in last minutes but actually in those crisis minutes we have been pretty strong in many ways to hold on to a lead under fierce pressure from Blues Saints  and Giants.

Notably May has been a hero really in a stellar breakout season in Those  close wins where he had resisted a number of last quarter attacks and conceded more I 50's on the day and had equal or less In scoring shots.

Oh what could have been and the fiasco of Cairns to add insult to the story which Zi believe we would have won one or either of those games especially at the Gabba ( without wind) or jagged one at Metricon as well.

 

[Demon17 4,541]

13 hours ago, Elegt said:

meh, seems like a bit of a f log and did nothing at sydney, would've preferred dylan grimes from richmond or brayden maynard from collingwood. we always seem to get the dud brother

I'm not sure what a [censored] is, I guess it sounds bad. A good term when you don't have a thesaurus.

He played 90 games under master coach John Longmire, and got 21 possessions in a Grand Final as a 21 year old.

Better than I could do for sure

[Uncle Fester 2,835]

12 hours ago, DubDee said:

I hear ya. forgive the off the cuff dodgy gag

sounds like you are doing it tougher than most.  I hope things improve quickly

and a Dees win wouldn't hurt

Nah it’s all fine. I have a thick skin and don’t take much on the internet seriously.

And, yes, a demon win is a panacea to cure all ills.

[spirit of norm smith 12,885]

WE HAVE TO BEAT THE BOMBERS.  WE HAVE TO. 
 

I couldn’t stand it if we didn’t. My bombers mates reckon Dees are soft and melt like butter. I really want to rip into them but have no confidence with our habit of losing the most winnable games or the most important. 
 

WE HAVE TO WIN

[sisso 2,383]

Giants have more talent than the Saints (let's be honest they have more talent than us too) but have been playing like rubbish...need them to really hit their straps Friday night with all those big guns!

[EJ7 3]

7 hours ago, 58er said:

The reality is that in the last minute if both the Cats snd Lions games we had opportunities on the forward line and flummoxed BOTH.

Geelong  was the half hearted sling approach from Adam Tomlinson who with some cool heads up from say a Gawn Or Viney ( Jones was absent I think) could have seriously lined up that shot he got the distance easily and a point resulted. End of story.

Just as bad was the amateur hour ( minute) from Hannan and Fritsch. At just between the diamond and 50 m line Hannan had possession and kicks to Fritsch leading into his wrong pocket ( a common fault) and the ball is marked just over the line by Fritta. Then follows the 50 m penalty fir a slow handover Of the ball. A long shot fir a winning goal based on Fritta season long 19.20 and some outs haunting us. BUT all along Hannan missed Viney on his own clear of an opponent about 30 m out in front of goal who could have Iced the goal and time fir us to win.

So very Melbourne I can hear you say !!
Yes we have won 3 close games also plus Suns in last minutes but actually in those crisis minutes we have been pretty strong in many ways to hold on to a lead under fierce pressure from Blues Saints  and Giants.

Notably May has been a hero really in a stellar breakout season in Those  close wins where he had resisted a number of last quarter attacks and conceded more I 50's on the day and had equal or less In scoring shots.

Oh what could have been and the fiasco of Cairns to add insult to the story which Zi believe we would have won one or either of those games especially at the Gabba ( without wind) or jagged one at Metricon as well.

 

Reckon of all the games we lost - the bulldogs is the one that hurts us most.  All teams had a flat spot in condensed fixture, we caught saints and collingwood in theirs and cope the heat in cairns in ours.

In both the Dockers and Swans games we kinda never looked likely.

But the Bulldogs game was after a 6 day (at least break), after a good win and we were leading at half time.  Then we played horribly for like 15 minutes.  Take that quarter out and we win that game

With the cats/lions games, I felt we were outplayed so the result would have been a bit flukey
 

[Tom Dyson 1,492]

Everyone here is playing out all the scenarios and just accept that we will smash essendon. Not so fast my friends, where has your mfcss gone????

does no one remember 2016 Round 2. I'm not even confident about beating essendon, let alone relying on other results. Please prove me wrong dees. 

[58er 5,607]

2 minutes ago, EJ7 said:

Reckon of all the games we lost - the bulldogs is the one that hurts us most.  All teams had a flat spot in condensed fixture, we caught saints and collingwood in theirs and cope the heat in cairns in ours.

In both the Dockers and Swans games we kinda never looked likely.

But the Bulldogs game was after a 6 day (at least break), after a good win and we were leading at half time.  Then we played horribly for like 15 minutes.  Take that quarter out and we win that game

With the cats/lions games, I felt we were outplayed so the result would have been a bit flukey
 

EJ dont disagree with you at all and we would be in the 8 safe with one more win and win on Sat ie 10-7 not 9-8.

But 3?points is so bliss with late opportunities I did feel that we were not really entitled to lead at half time as we hadn't played well.

But I thought  we may have improved after half time  and gone away for say a 3 goal win.

Prob Ssints  have Flatlined in last 4/5 rounds so that win is nit surprising as they lack A graders  they the Dees often lose because of. (Bont vs Bullies) 

I tHinkGWS was flat but have been fir a while now!

Lets hope Freo and GWS are in top form this round!!! 

AND we salute by say 5/6 goals or more!!

[Mr Steve 3,820]

Giants need to renege on the deal they have done with Leon Cameron and sack him effective now. They can reappoint him after the weekend if they want. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,122]

17 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

My membership guarantees my a ticket Jim - so i'll be there !

You'll have to head up to Darwin for 14 days prior and live in an army barracks.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,122]

1 hour ago, Tom Dyson said:

Everyone here is playing out all the scenarios and just accept that we will smash essendon. Not so fast my friends, where has your mfcss gone????

does no one remember 2016 Round 2. I'm not even confident about beating essendon, let alone relying on other results. Please prove me wrong dees. 

I'm 100% paranoid the Dons will roll us on Saturday.

 

[Jaded No More 57,768]

It is Woosha's last game as coach too... Essendon may be up and about for him. 

[GCDee 3,006]

9 minutes ago, Jaded said:

It is Woosha's last game as coach too... Essendon may be up and about for him. 

Or they will see woosha off the same way we saw of roosey

[old55 21,227]

A lot of lament here about losing to Geelong and Brisbane in close games - the ledger in games under a goal is actually in our favour 3-2:

• Carlton +1
• Geelong -3
• Brisbane -4
• St.Kilda +3
• GWS +5

It could very easily be 2-3 and we would be out of it now.

The Swans and Freo losses were extremely disappointing but there are reasons or excuses depending on your viewpoint. 

The other club in a similar position to us without a bye - Essendon have gone from 5-0-2 to 6-1-9 since the compressed fixtures started, that's 1-1-7.  In the same period we've gone from 3-4 to 8-8, that's 5-4.  It's going to be interesting to see how we go against them this week.

It's also going to be interesting to see how the Dogs go vs Freo in Cairns off a day's less break.

Edited September 16, 2020 by Pollyanna

[old55 21,227]

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[Pates 9,536]

3 hours ago, Tom Dyson said:

Everyone here is playing out all the scenarios and just accept that we will smash essendon. Not so fast my friends, where has your mfcss gone????

does no one remember 2016 Round 2. I'm not even confident about beating essendon, let alone relying on other results. Please prove me wrong dees. 

It may be a boring opinion but I’m just wanting us to beat Essendon. Whatever plays out after that will be what it will be. I’d imagine that’s the mindset the team will be taking in as well. 

I listened to the DeeBrief podcast and they were talking about going in with the attitude of “we must smash Essendon by X amount” could end up as a distraction. Just go in wanting to play the way we did against GWS and the rest will sort itself out. 

[sue 8,416]

52 minutes ago, Pates said:

It may be a boring opinion but I’m just wanting us to beat Essendon. Whatever plays out after that will be what it will be. I’d imagine that’s the mindset the team will be taking in as well. 

I listened to the DeeBrief podcast and they were talking about going in with the attitude of “we must smash Essendon by X amount” could end up as a distraction. Just go in wanting to play the way we did against GWS and the rest will sort itself out. 

If that happens we may well lose a match we might otherwise win.  Once players feel we won't smash them by enough they may start to throw in the towel and lose.

[Pates 9,536]

1 minute ago, sue said:

If that happens we may well lose a match we might otherwise win.  Once players feel we won't smash them by enough they may start to throw in the towel and lose.

Zero doubt the players went into the match against Essendon in their ASADA/WADA ban year thinking “how much are we going to win by today”. We’ve had big losses over our years, that has got to be one of the most embarrassing days I’ve experienced as a Dees fan. 

[Bitter but optimistic 21,232]

4 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

You'll have to head up to Darwin for 14 days prior and live in an army barracks.

That sounds horribly spartan !! 
Would the climate endanger my wine collection?
Can those soldier fellows correctly decant a Shiraz?

And what about the maid? She’d need to be there to poach my eggs

Damn this Corolla virus !!!

 

[titan_uranus 22,265]

3 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

A lot of lament here about losing to Geelong and Brisbane in close games - the ledger in games under a goal is actually in our favour 3-2:

• Carlton +1
• Geelong -3
• Brisbane -4
• St.Kilda +3
• GWS +5

It could very easily be 2-3 and we would be out of it now.

The Swans and Freo losses were extremely disappointing but there are reasons or excuses depending on your viewpoint. 

The other club in a similar position to us without a bye - Essendon have gone from 5-0-2 to 6-1-9 since the compressed fixtures started, that's 1-1-7.  In the same period we've gone from 3-4 to 8-8, that's 5-4.  It's going to be interesting to see how we go against them this week.

It's also going to be interesting to see how the Dogs go vs Freo in Cairns off a day's less break.

This is fair.

Putting close games to one side, we went 0-5 against the top 5. Our competitors for finals spots got over the line at least once in their attempts to beat the top 5 (Collingwood beat Geelong and drew with Richmond, St Kilda beat Richmond and Port, the Dogs beat West Coast, GWS beat Geelong and Richmond).

Our competitors also have losses to "weaker" sides (Collingwood lost to Fremantle and Essendon, St Kilda lost to Fremantle and North, the Dogs lost to Carlton, GWS lost to Adelaide, North and Sydney).

So we're not alone in dropping those two Sydney/Fremantle games. IMO, as frustrating as the Sydney/Fremantle losses were (Sydney in particular, given they're a bottom 4 side), it's the fact we didn't win even one of our five games against the top five that has us in this mess as much as anything else.