jnrmac 20,360 Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 Why are we even in this pathetic position? Peanuts Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 Just beat the bombers and walk off with Mankind's (Mick Foley) music going off as we walk into the sunset. 1 Quote
DubDee 26,669 Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 Knowing the demons we will lose to the bombers. We are a real chance to lose. We can play well but also terribly so who knows what’ll happen. Bombers have been copping it so they’ll want to end on a high note and mess up our chances too 1 Quote
needafullback 82 Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Elegt said: Updated Nice diagram Elegt. Sounds like too much to ask but we really need two out of three of those other results to go our way. West Coast looks to have 5th spot locked away, and our chances of beating them over there are negligible. We need to finish 7th and play one of the Dogs, Saints or Pies. Arguably there's little point limping into 8th spot, really. Go Suns tomorrow night. Quote
Deeminion 412 Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 It’s so depressing that our season has come down to this. We are our own nemesis. No one to blame for this predicament than ourselves. i truly hope that if we lose to the Bombers then none of the favorable outcomes occur as that would [censored] blow. Quote
Hogan2014 390 Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 Imagine if this club just won the games it should have won... can see 2017 repeat Quote
Demonland 74,340 Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said: Imagine if this club just won the games it should have won... can see 2017 repeat It's already worse than 2017. In 2017 we didn't have to rely on any other team in the last round except ourselves. 5 2 Quote
Cards13 9,117 Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 the best part is that when it all goes our way and we sneak in to finals we'll have to play WCE in Perth.... Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted September 13, 2020 Posted September 13, 2020 54 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said: Imagine if this club just won the games it should have won... can see 2017 repeat The frustrating thing is even if we just won a couple or even just one of the games we should have things would be so different! The smaller details matter and it's something this club never seems to grasp. Quote
Demonland 74,340 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, Cards13 said: the best part is that when it all goes our way and we sneak in to finals we'll have to play WCE in Perth.... Had we finished 5th and they finished 8th we'd probably still have had to have played them there MFCSS style. 1 1 Quote
sue 9,277 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 Doubtless over on the Saints' board similar scenarios are being listed and similar moaning can be heard of "if only x had snagged that goal" or "how did we lose to..." We are our own worse ..." It's just particularly painful in our case because those should-have-wins are so recent. Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,534 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 I'm not feeling the desperation, anxiety and excitement that I had in the week leading into round 23 2017 due to lockdown and being disconnected from AFL this year. With that being said, this year will be easier to stomach if we miss out (assuming we beat Essendon) because we would've held our end of the bargain in round 23 compared to 2017 when we threw our spot away by losing to Collingwood. I think the Dogs will be too professional for Freo and St Kilda will either beat GWS or have a small loss, leaving us at 9th place. 2 Quote
mauriesy 7,443 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 Unfortunately, the reward for finishing 8th will likely be a hard road trip to Perth to play West Coast. ? 1 Quote
Cards13 9,117 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, mauriesy said: Unfortunately, the reward for finishing 8th will likely be a hard road trip to Perth to play West Coast. ? If we make it and that occurs only have to blame "ourselves". Quote
DubDee 26,669 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: I'm not feeling the desperation, anxiety and excitement that I had in the week leading into round 23 2017 due to lockdown and being disconnected from AFL this year. With that being said, this year will be easier to stomach if we miss out (assuming we beat Essendon) because we would've held our end of the bargain in round 23 compared to 2017 when we threw our spot away by losing to Collingwood. I think the Dogs will be too professional for Freo and St Kilda will either beat GWS or have a small loss, leaving us at 9th place. i did the ladder predictor, saints winning by 4 points and us winning by 40 pts. see below. yeah, I know, I threw up in my mouth also. in this likely scenario, if we had beaten the swans, the Pies would miss out W L D 1. Port Adelaide 14 3 0 136.0% 2. Brisbane Lions 14 3 0 126.4% 3. Richmond 12 4 1 128.2% 4. Geelong 12 5 0 139.5% 5. West Coast 12 5 0 118.6% 6. St Kilda 10 7 0 110.8% 7. Western Bulldogs 10 7 0 104.1% 8. Collingwood 9 7 1 108.1% 9. Melbourne 9 8 0 109.7% 10. GWS 8 9 0 100.2% 11. Fremantle 7 10 0 96.5% 12. Carlton 7 10 0 93.0% 13. Gold Coast 6 10 1 97.5% 14. Essendon 6 10 1 78.2% 15. Sydney 5 12 0 80.8% 16. Hawthorn 4 13 0 78.8% 17. North Melbourne 3 14 0 70.7% 18. Adelaide 3 14 0 65.6% Edited September 14, 2020 by DubDee typo Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 Nothing will be more 2020 than missing finals by 0.01% Can this season and year just be done already? 1 Quote
DubDee 26,669 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, DubDee said: i did the ladder predictor, saints winning by 4 points and us winning by 40 pts. see below. yeah, I know, I threw up in my mouth also. in this likely scenario, if we had beaten the swans, the Pies would miss out W L D 1. Port Adelaide 14 3 0 136.0% 2. Brisbane Lions 14 3 0 126.4% 3. Richmond 12 4 1 128.2% 4. Geelong 12 5 0 139.5% 5. West Coast 12 5 0 118.6% 6. St Kilda 10 7 0 110.8% 7. Western Bulldogs 10 7 0 104.1% 8. Collingwood 9 7 1 108.1% 9. Melbourne 9 8 0 109.7% 10. GWS 8 9 0 100.2% 11. Fremantle 7 10 0 96.5% 12. Carlton 7 10 0 93.0% 13. Gold Coast 6 10 1 97.5% 14. Essendon 6 10 1 78.2% 15. Sydney 5 12 0 80.8% 16. Hawthorn 4 13 0 78.8% 17. North Melbourne 3 14 0 70.7% 18. Adelaide 3 14 0 65.6% on the other hand, if GWS win by 4 points, we need 46 points to beat the saints % easy as that really! ? Quote
GCDee 3,202 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, mauriesy said: Unfortunately, the reward for finishing 8th will likely be a hard road trip to Perth to play West Coast. ? Kind of hope this is our first final if we make it. Maybe we can bury the demons of the prelim once and for all. Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, GCDee said: Kind of hope this is our first final if we make it. Maybe we can bury the demons of the prelim once and for all. Yeah maybe we will only lose by 40 points this time and then get a chance to review the tapes! 1 Quote
bandicoot 1,395 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 I think the only likely result will be for GWS to win and Dees to beat Essendon. Cant see Collingwood losing to Suns or Dogs losing to Freo. Saints would be really stiff to miss out. Have played better than Dees all year. Quote
sue 9,277 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, mauriesy said: Unfortunately, the reward for finishing 8th will likely be a hard road trip to Perth to play West Coast. ? Think positively! Getting finals experience is always worthwhile. Playing in WA would be more like a normal final since crowd restrictions are likely to be looser and there'd be a bigger crowd . Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,819 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 Freo are playing super football atm, if this game was at Metricon or the Gabba i would lean towards WB. This game just happens to be in Cairns in those wet slippery conditions and there will be bucket loads of pressure on the dogs with all eyes on this game. 4 Quote
Coq au vin 755 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Deeminion said: It’s so depressing that our season has come down to this. We are our own nemesis. No one to blame for this predicament than ourselves. i truly hope that if we lose to the Bombers then none of the favorable outcomes occur as that would [censored] blow. We could blame the players, the coach and the administration. Plus we could blame the AFL, CoVid and the weather in Cairns. Blaming yourself hardly seems appropriate fellow demonlander. 1 Quote
Coq au vin 755 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, sue said: Think positively! Getting finals experience is always worthwhile. Playing in WA would be more like a normal final since crowd restrictions are likely to be looser and there'd be a bigger crowd . And they’d all be bellowing loudly for WC Quote
titan_uranus 25,252 Posted September 14, 2020 Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, bandicoot said: I think the only likely result will be for GWS to win and Dees to beat Essendon. Cant see Collingwood losing to Suns or Dogs losing to Freo. Saints would be really stiff to miss out. Have played better than Dees all year. If we make it at their expense, we'll have ended the year with the same number of wins and a higher percentage. Our losses may stick out like a sore thumb to us, but evidently if they miss out we'll have had the better year overall. 3 Quote
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