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POSTGAME: Rd 10 vs Adelaide

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  On 06/08/2020 at 01:48, dees189227 said:

Dwayne is just annoying. Kingy is ok but I wonder why he never went into coaching. The way he analyses the game makes him sound like a coach. 

I bet some actual coaches, such as Neeld, Bolton, Leppitsch, etc, sounded awesome when talking about numbers and strategy.

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      On 05/08/2020 at 23:38, Tracca said:

    I think a rotation of Trac and Gus in the midfield with resting HFF would be fine, Trac can be dangerous in the Fwd line but cant play midfield full time imo. juggling 5 of them shouldnt be too hard.

     

    Funny though the game turned when Gus was a genuine mid

    I'm not sure that is correct. Gus was in the 1st bounce from memory...

    The game turned at the start of the second half when our pressure increased and Oliver started to break out (and get a couple of holding frees which stopped Crouch from hanging on to him)..

    Gus was definitely better in the 2nd half but its a stretch to say our resurgence was from Gus being a genuine mid IMO.

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      On 05/08/2020 at 12:33, ding said:

    @dpositive

     

    Thats more like it :)

     

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    Ding. Thanks for your score advices. Really appreciated.That must have been some last quarter, it even slowed Dland criticism down.

    Maybe it makes a lot of difference when the umpires change sides.

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    Favourite bit was that little dweeb, McHenry I think, running around continuously trying to rough up Gawn and a few others. Went to do it to May and May just sat him on his [censored]. The look on May’s face was priceless.

     

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      On 06/08/2020 at 01:57, Mazer Rackham said:

    I bet some actual coaches, such as Neeld, Bolton, Leppitsch, etc, sounded awesome when talking about numbers and strategy.

    Exactly.

    I'd have so much more respect for the analysis of guys like Kingy and Garry Lyon if the had actually coached and in the modern era.

    Do like the commentary of guys like Roos, Parkin and to some extent I didn't even mind Mick Malthouse from this perspective.

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    Being a Dees fan living in Adelaide is hard until your team play twice in 5 days! What a shocking game to watch for 3 quarters last night from both sides, the umpires and the crows fans who literally have no idea about the rules of football. Happy we turned it on in the last.

    Watching Jackson after he hits the ground from a jump for a ruck or marking contest is amazing, he literally sprints as soon as he hits the ground, looking for opportunity. Good to watch, he has an appetite to compete. 

    Onwards and upwards to the Roos. Hopefully my head recovers by then........

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      On 06/08/2020 at 01:02, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Had no idea who Crocker was till last night. 

    He is now up there with my most hated players from other clubs.  Ruffs up Lockhart who is 11cm and 7kg smaller(who to his credit held his own), crunched May in the head, pushed Hibberd in the back then turned, kicked a goal and pranced around as if they had just won the premiership.

    Faux tough guy.  Approaching thug status.

     

    For some reason I was reminded of the Grade Six bullies I used to know while watching the Adelaide players.

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      On 06/08/2020 at 01:25, layzie said:

    Definitely went to the Dayne Beams school of supermarket tattoos! 

    Oh my, is that what that scribble was? Looked like a bunch of pre-schoolers had practised their crayoning on him. Ugly as.

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    I think the crows came out to be ‘tough guys’.  We responded in kind (and got in the umpires bad books).  Some of their he-man efforts were poor.  I loved May looking out for Lockhart - shows what a leader and a champ he is.  So many of their off the ball shenanigans not penalised until the last.  When Oliver wasn’t being held, he just cut them apart.  I think the crows ran out of angry-juice and that was essentially all they had.  

    They are an absolute rabble.  Pulled us down to their level for the first three quarters (not all that hard to do) but we had enough to break it open and turn the last into a training drill.

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      On 05/08/2020 at 14:18, A F said:

    Oliver is man-handled without the ball every week. I'm glad he finally got one or two of those frees tonight.

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    Tackling our receivers at bounces before the ball comes to them seems to be a standard tactic against us to counter Gawn's dominance but a free is only rarely paid.  The club should take this up with the AFL.

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      On 06/08/2020 at 00:34, jnrmac said:

    You can't fend off with a stiff arm at a ruck contest. We learned the hard way with Max. Staggering the 'experts' don't know what the rule is

    Terrible rule

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    I missed it in the game but I just listened to Eddie and Dermott pontificating on AVB's shove in the back. The AFL want to stamp this out! This is not a good look for the game! Dermott- We used to have respect for our opponents, we didn't do stuff like that.

    Excuse me? The outrage over a little shove in the back is way over the top. Plus the hypocrisy is disgusting. It was okay in Derm's day to just hit or step on people.

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      On 06/08/2020 at 03:09, Dame Gaga said:

    I missed it in the game but I just listened to Eddie and Dermott pontificating on AVB's shove in the back. The AFL want to stamp this out! This is not a good look for the game! Dermott- We used to have respect for our opponents, we didn't do stuff like that.

    Excuse me? The outrage over a little shove in the back is way over the top. Plus the hypocrisy is disgusting. It was okay in Derm's day to just hit or step on people.

    If they did it back in the day they would've been sat on their a... so quick.
    These days they can be smartarzes without fear of repercussion.

    Mad Dog Muir at 0:49 for eg.

     

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      On 06/08/2020 at 03:09, Dame Gaga said:

    I missed it in the game but I just listened to Eddie and Dermott pontificating on AVB's shove in the back. The AFL want to stamp this out! This is not a good look for the game! Dermott- We used to have respect for our opponents, we didn't do stuff like that.

    Excuse me? The outrage over a little shove in the back is way over the top. Plus the hypocrisy is disgusting. It was okay in Derm's day to just hit or step on people.

    I agree  it should be stamped out even for far less aggressive actions than AVB's.  But the hypocrisy of the commentators is sickening.  I'm not so much referring to what they did in the past (you could forgive that if they have seen the light), but the fact anytime niggles start increasing they get so excited. Like a bunch of schoolboys shouting 'fight fight'.

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      On 05/08/2020 at 13:01, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

    I have to say it again

    Lever, ball falls through his two hands, bounces up off his chest, and is grabbed by Himellberg...

    Paid a mark....  WTcF is going on out there

    Thought I was seeing things when the umpire paid the mark. It's pretty bad when the whistle blows and you hold your breath because you have no idea what the decision will be.

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      On 06/08/2020 at 03:13, sue said:

    I agree  it should be stamped out even for far less aggressive actions than AVB's.  But the hypocrisy of the commentators is sickening.  I'm not so much referring to what they did in the past (you could forgive that if they have seen the light), but the fact anytime niggles start increasing they get so excited. Like a bunch of schoolboys shouting 'fight fight'.

    I can't believe the hide of Brereton to sit there unchallenged passing judgement on the relatively tame actions (compared to what he has done in the past) and just lie about having respect for opponents and never doing that sort of thing. It's a sick joke. Plus he wouldn't make the same comments if it was a Hawthorn player. It just makes me so mad. The quality of commentators is getting worse every year.

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      On 06/08/2020 at 00:18, S_T said:

    Interesting to hear the commentators go on and on about AVB’s push and how it needs to be stamped out of the game, but when the little guy from Adelaide charges and bumps May well after the ball goes out of bounds they celebrate it. Kinda sums up the commentary all night really. I think they wanted blood and were very disappointed Melbourne won. 

    That plus their mate (and Adelaide board member) Ricciuto was riding the boundary 

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      On 06/08/2020 at 01:02, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Had no idea who Crocker was till last night. 

    He is now up there with my most hated players from other clubs.  Ruffs up Lockhart who is 11cm and 7kg smaller(who to his credit held his own), crunched May in the head, pushed Hibberd in the back then turned, kicked a goal and pranced around as if they had just won the premiership.

    Faux tough guy.  Approaching thug status.

     

    Crunched May in the head - who did NOT get a free kick???

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    Interesting take from down at West Lakes:

    • Getting a good run from the umps
    • We're being gifted the free kicks this game. They really must want us to win.
    • We are getting the biggest umpiring ride
    • Lucky to get away with that one. Umps are getting involved
    • Melbourne relentlessly going for the head
    • Tex has been horrendous .
    • And the umpiring has been diabolical, not protecting the player and their interpretation of the holding the ball/improper disposal rule is at an all time low.
    • So many head-highs going our way because of the hatchet jobs by Dees players.
    • Definitely getting a ride
    • Melbourne have tried their hardest to get us back in this game
    • Stats all even except frees 16 - 8 going our way.
    • Brace yourselves for some shockers in the even up this half.
    • We are being absolutely reamed by the maggots
    • Is Neal-Bullen a slack-jawed yokel? Always has his mouth wide open (well he is from South Australia!)
    • **** off Riccioto. You played a huge part in the mess we currently find ourselves in
    • The day Roo is seen as persona non grata at the AFC will be a good day
    • Could we trade Jones for Sparrow?

    And this:

    amazing what happens when the umpires aren't so one-sided. sorry but that's the only reason the 2nd half turned out the way it did

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      On 06/08/2020 at 03:02, Elegt said:

    Terrible rule

    Not saying its a good rule but Max had 4 frees paid against him one game for exactly that.

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      On 05/08/2020 at 21:32, Lucifer's Hero said:

    In the last qtr when Jackson took the ball out of the ruck took a few steps facing directly at goals and kicked beautifully he looked very Nic Nat like. 

    Not saying he will be a Nic but he will be a joy to watch in years to come - Gisele like in his movements.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gisele_Bündchen ?

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      On 06/08/2020 at 00:54, PaulRB said:

    With the sling tackle the AFL want it both ways.

    on one hand, this season (and last night) a player can be fairly tackled spun 360 degrees without disposing of it and NOT called for holding the ball. But the tackler is now expected to manage the safety of the player they tackle while they contort to either dispose to advantage, look like trying (when they’re not) or simply deal with their momentum. It’s become unrealistic for the tackler.

    example with the Nibbler sling, tackles him properly through 180’, then Crow player tried to dispose (to kick) throwing his body into the sling and exposing his head to a concussion... yet the tackler is held responsible. 

    In my opinion, if the AFL wants to reduce slings, they should reduce the time a tacked player has before the umpire decides a free or ball up. 

    Good call

    Players are now so adept at lifting their arms and disposing of the ball, the tacklers moved on to pinning the arms and then slinging them to the ground.

     

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      On 06/08/2020 at 00:54, PaulRB said:

    With the sling tackle the AFL want it both ways.

    on one hand, this season (and last night) a player can be fairly tackled spun 360 degrees without disposing of it and NOT called for holding the ball. But the tackler is now expected to manage the safety of the player they tackle while they contort to either dispose to advantage, look like trying (when they’re not) or simply deal with their momentum. It’s become unrealistic for the tackler.

    example with the Nibbler sling, tackles him properly through 180’, then Crow player tried to dispose (to kick) throwing his body into the sling and exposing his head to a concussion... yet the tackler is held responsible. 

    In my opinion, if the AFL wants to reduce slings, they should reduce the time a tacked player has before the umpire decides a free or ball up. 

    QFT.

     

    I said this last night, can't have it both ways.

     

     

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      On 06/08/2020 at 02:00, jnrmac said:

    I'm not sure that is correct. Gus was in the 1st bounce from memory...

    The game turned at the start of the second half when our pressure increased and Oliver started to break out (and get a couple of holding frees which stopped Crouch from hanging on to him)..

    Gus was definitely better in the 2nd half but its a stretch to say our resurgence was from Gus being a genuine mid IMO.

    Is Gus the new OMac ?  or what.

    Once a bloke is in the gun nothing he does will ever be good enough. Yes....he was in the middle at the first bounce, but spent a lot of the first half off the ground.

    However when he got going in the 2ns half he "synced with Oliver and Max AND provided silver service down the ground. Makes a difference !!!! (Back to 2018)

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