I’m shocked. Totally shocked!!!

5 minutes ago, binman said:

I have no doubts that is true.

Given that why do you think goody said no injury problems in his post match presser as did burgess yesterday?

Clubs are very reluctant to talk about head & facial injuries. If possible and particularly if they can when a “high profile” player is not involved, they prefer to let those type of surgeries slip under the radar. 

6 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

Cos lying is the second language of football!

Because it can serve a purpose.

I'm struggling to see what the benefit here was. Maybe goody not wanting to bring the vibe down. But burgess?

At least it provides a very reasonable explanation, for his otherwise fairly average game on Sunday.  Given the circumstances we now know, his performance was nothing short of courageous and beyond the still very worthy on feild performance and physical presence he did provide, even the additional rotations he enabled for the team would have helped our performance.  What a great impact this kind of behavior would have on the team first culture of the club, littlerally bleeding for your mates attitude and morale the club that this bloke brings - priceless.

Just to further qualify my assessment of his performance a little further, it's not that I thought his game was that bad, but more that I was a little disappointed, because I was hoping to see something closer to Vanders at his best after some of the ferocious tackling and hard running he showed against the Suns.

2 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

Clubs are very reluctant to talk about head & facial injuries. If possible and particularly if they can when a “high profile” player is not involved, they prefer to let those type of surgeries slip under the radar. 

Why is that?

Too tough and fearless for his own good.

Anyway with the condensed schedule he likely would have had a game or two off at some point,  might as well take them now hey.

The thinking is that head & facial injuries might influence a Parent to Soccer or Basketball more than a sprained ankle or hamstring. 

 

13 hours ago, Nasher said:

Pleasantly surprised, I was fully expecting this to be a post bagging him.

A poster on another forum mentioned that vandenBerg’s tackles hurt more than any other player because they frequently cause turnovers. 

I don’t reckon we’ve had a player like him at the MFC since I’ve been watching. A medium-tall with an extremely solid build whose greatest asset is defensive work. His tackles hurt in both the physical and footy sense. I’d be afraid if I was nearby.

Hopefully he is able to get a decent run at it - he was important in the finals in 2018 and has been so far this year.

Just to demur a little bit, Matthew Whelan, not quite as big as VDB but put the hurt on many, regardless of style, tidier disposal as well. What is excellent though is he puts the pressure on, but does not give away a lot of frees, and I can’t remember a report, very controlled aggression which is a fair skill. 

13 hours ago, Nasher said:

Pleasantly surprised, I was fully expecting this to be a post bagging him.

A poster on another forum mentioned that vandenBerg’s tackles hurt more than any other player because they frequently cause turnovers. 

I don’t reckon we’ve had a player like him at the MFC since I’ve been watching. A medium-tall with an extremely solid build whose greatest asset is defensive work. His tackles hurt in both the physical and footy sense. I’d be afraid if I was nearby.

Hopefully he is able to get a decent run at it - he was important in the finals in 2018 and has been so far this year.

Kozzies uncle when he played for us would nail a few blokes and always made our blokes stand tall. I was bit of an enforcer for Aaron Davey who would be targeted quite heavily during the 2006 year.

I don't get the secrecy here. Maybe from a tactical perspective.

Not taking anything away from AVB because he's tough as nails and would genuinely frighten opposition with him on your tail but tactically it's not like hiding an injury to a Max or Clarry or Trac or key position forward. I doubt it would change Brisbane's tactics one iota. Again no disrespect to vanders.

For me the omission from Burgess makes me doubt any of the information he gives out in the videos. Don't get me wrong Burgo could be the greatest thing that has happened to this club. Omissions like this have been a running theme from the club for years, probably all clubs but I only care about this one.

If injuries are so top secret why even provide these video updates and if they're not telling the whole truth which is evident here based on the intel in the OP how can we truly trust anything that is posted by the club.

Providing content is great but if you can't be honest for tactical reasons then don't release a clip saying we got through the match unscathed when a blokes had his cheek split in three places.

Edited July 22, 20205 yr by pewpewpew

5 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

The thinking is that head & facial injuries might influence a Parent to Soccer or Basketball more than a sprained ankle or hamstring. 

 

Thanks. That makes a lot of sense.

40 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

Clubs are very reluctant to talk about head & facial injuries. If possible and particularly if they can when a “high profile” player is not involved, they prefer to let those type of surgeries slip under the radar. 

 

37 minutes ago, binman said:

Why is that?

 

14 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

The thinking is that head & facial injuries might influence a Parent to Soccer or Basketball more than a sprained ankle or hamstring. 

 

It has to come out at some point like it did today so whilst I understand that reasoning it's made redundant once the story comes out.

Why not mention it in Burgo's injury report yesterday considering they have it all over social media and their website today?

Edited July 22, 20205 yr by pewpewpew

16 minutes ago, pewpewpew said:

 

 

It has to come out at some point like it did today so whilst I understand that reasoning it's made redundant once the story comes out.

Why not mention it in Burgo's injury report yesterday considering they have it all over social media and their website today?

Some distance from the match in guessing.

People have watched the replays so not looking for how it happened.

The footy shows have done their reviews and not focused on his or his injury.

Only keen dee fans follow injury reports and it wouldn't register with other clubs fans a low profile player like avb got hurt.

Noise managed

19 hours ago, AC/DeeC said:

Vanders is a dead set legend. Loved seeing him stick up for Weed after Stratton's deliberate elbow on his head. Somehow, the Weed got up after the hit, got the ball and set up a chain of play that resulted in a brilliant Pickett goal (2nd quarter about 4:20). Watch the attached footage - Weed only had eyes for the ball. Stratton only had eyes for his elbow on Weed's head. Surely Stratton should be reported for this. I would not want to be Stratton the next time Dorks play Dees...

SEOW.mov

Stratton got fined for striking

44 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Stratton got fined for striking

that's a [censored] 50m right there as well as an automatic report... where were the umps looking man!?

2 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

Why on earth did they not confirm this in the injury update?

Burgess literally said “nothing to report out of the win against Hawthorn”

This is why they say lying is the second language of AFL!

Might have been because they didn't know if he'd miss any matches, so why broadcast a fractured cheek in case he was ok to play.

I would have thought that while they were assessing the injury and determining if he needed weeks off or could somehow get up to play, they are better telling nobody nothin'. Then they control the story and who knows what.

I would think they were somewhat disappointed there was a leak through to this website

Just read chookrats reply and I basically agree

AVB cannot seem to take a trick, but with so many games in such a short time , he would have missed a couple anyway. As will a third of the side. 

But he was just running into a bit of form, after last few games , if you are open minded and not a hater you might see that. And we play so much better with his  hard at it attitude.

I hope someone can step up, not sure it will change Brisbane’s plans for the game. But I am not as confident now. 

Two goals less. Will be a draw...

The club isn't secretive

Illess and injury are a personal matter, scans etc, operations etc

It was uncool that @goodwindees released the news, but understand why he did it, from.past history both Goodwin and Burgess will be [censored] that it was released before official confirmation

 

4 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

The club isn't secretive

Illess and injury are a personal matter, scans etc, operations etc

It was uncool that @goodwindees released the news, but understand why he did it, from.past history both Goodwin and Burgess will be [censored] that it was released before official confirmation

 

Lol. 

4 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

The club isn't secretive

Illess and injury are a personal matter, scans etc, operations etc

It was uncool that @goodwindees released the news, but understand why he did it, from.past history both Goodwin and Burgess will be [censored] that it was released before official confirmation

 

Then what's the point of Burgess doing a weekly injury report to the public when it's a personal matter??

You've contradicted yourself here Sat....

Edited July 22, 20205 yr by dazzledavey36

6 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

The club isn't secretive

Illess and injury are a personal matter, scans etc, operations etc

It was uncool that @goodwindees released the news, but understand why he did it, from.past history both Goodwin and Burgess will be [censored] that it was released before official confirmation

 

But of course. 
naughty Vibes

Its going to be a "bruise free" game anyway, just so we don't forget...

4 hours ago, binman said:

I have no doubts that is true.

Given that why do you think goody said no injury problems in his post match presser as did burgess yesterday?

 

4 hours ago, goodwindees said:

Clubs are very reluctant to talk about head & facial injuries. If possible and particularly if they can when a “high profile” player is not involved, they prefer to let those type of surgeries slip under the radar. 

An aspect could be time to tell people who need to know ie family before publicising something that sounds as bad as fractured cheekbone. 

5 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

Why on earth did they not confirm this in the injury update?

Burgess literally said “nothing to report out of the win against Hawthorn”

This is why they say lying is the second language of AFL!

He probably didn’t tell anybody he had a busted cheekbone with blood dripping down his throat till yesterday. 

Agree with all the comments here saying how much psychological edge he brings to the team on game day. 

He’s our modern day Rodney “Balls” Grinter, with a slightly better haircut.