Edited July 6, 20205 yr by John Demonic

We let go of Frost because we thought OMac would work better, but he isn't in the team. We let go of Hogan because we had Weid coming up, but he isn't in the team. WTF???

Interesting the clubs gone fairly quiet on his performances in the scratchies.

17 minutes ago, Grr-owl said:

We let go of Frost because we thought OMac would work better, but he isn't in the team. We let go of Hogan because we had Weid coming up, but he isn't in the team. WTF???

 

17 minutes ago, Grr-owl said:

We let go of Frost because we thought OMac would work better, but he isn't in the team. We let go of Hogan because we had Weid coming up, but he isn't in the team. WTF???

Beggars belief. If I were either I would be looking for a new home. Probably enjoying himself. Out of Victoria living at Manly getting paid and no blame for our results.

Edited July 7, 20205 yr by old dee

Perhaps he already is, hence the reluctance to wheel him out

 

Garry Lyon said last night he hasn't developed as the club would have liked.

But I ask who is there for Sam to learn from, be mentored by?  We have no experienced fwd.  We have no fwd coach or a coach who has played forward.  Who has been brought into the club to fast track his development?  He is a kid and it is widely known that 'talls' develop more slowly than say midfielders.

His confidence was shot last year after the media brouhaha over his contract, after which he deleted his social media accounts and he didn't even want to leave home.  Not to mention the game winning shot he missed in a game last year. 

3 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

His confidence was shot last year after the media brouhaha over his contract, after which he deleted his social media accounts and he didn't even want to leave home.

Feel for him if true.  Not everyone wants to be in the spotlight.  Maybe he just likes playing footy and doesn't want any attention.  He wouldn't be alone in that regard.

ps    I  truly despise the media. 

7 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Garry Lyon said last night he hasn't developed as the club would have liked.

But I ask who is there for Sam to learn from, be mentored by?  We have no experienced fwd.  We have no fwd coach or a coach who has played forward.  Who has been brought into the club to fast track his development?  He is a kid and it is widely known that 'talls' develop more slowly than say midfielders.

His confidence was shot last year after the media brouhaha over his contract, after which he deleted his social media accounts and he didn't even want to leave home.  Not to mention the game winning shot he missed in a game last year. 

100% agree. WTF is this club doing with it's forward coaching?

I am so disappointed in the club as a whole, not just Goodwin.

Mahoney and the board need to take more responsibility for this mess.

Why have we not had Schwarz, Neitz or Lyon down at the club working with Weideman from day dot? All of these guys were competitors, they attacked the football and they demanded the ball from their teammates. If not them, then find someone who will help him out, because it sure is not going to be coming from Rooke, Chaplin or any of the other lightweights we have running the forward line.

Weideman is lacking in all of these respects and we should have been constantly working on these parts of his game. Instead we waste crucial development time playing him in the ruck or letting him chase kicks around the ground. It is alarming how badly we develop players over and over again.

8 minutes ago, poita said:

Why have we not had Schwarz, Neitz or Lyon down at the club working with Weideman from day dot? All of these guys were competitors, they attacked the football and they demanded the ball from their teammates. If not them, then find someone who will help him out, because it sure is not going to be coming from Rooke, Chaplin or any of the other lightweights we have running the forward line.

Weideman is lacking in all of these respects and we should have been constantly working on these parts of his game. Instead we waste crucial development time playing him in the ruck or letting him chase kicks around the ground. It is alarming how badly we develop players over and over again.

Let's go one better and have a Nick Reiwoldt, Wayne Carey, Mathew Lloyd or a David Neitz come down and spend some time with Weideman.

 

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Let's go one better and have a Nick Reiwoldt, Wayne Carey, Mathew Lloyd or a David Neitz come down and spend some time with Weideman.

 

They should have been there from the first day Jackson walked in the door, regardless of Weideman's from or place in the team. We paid a lot for him and you'd think it would be smart to give him the very best resources to develop his game. Would not harm Weideman either, so it's a win-win.

Also, what is stopping Weid from getting in touch with these guys himself? He needs to get his skates on in the next 6-12 months or he'll be lost to the game

 

1 hour ago, DurriePirate said:

Interesting the clubs gone fairly quiet on his performances in the scratchies.

I mentioned it in the scratch match thread but when watching the second half I saw him kick at least two goals and he presented nicely throughout. Was one of the standouts for sure.

27 minutes ago, poita said:

Why have we not had Schwarz, Neitz or Lyon down at the club working with Weideman from day dot?

Probably because they wouldn’t have towed Goodwin’s party line and picked faults in his game plan!

To add: I think Neitz was at Hawthorn for a while, but certainly was around the club for the 2018 finals. He’d be perfect for mentoring, you’d think.

12 minutes ago, Luther said:

I mentioned it in the scratch match thread but when watching the second half I saw him kick at least two goals and he presented nicely throughout. Was one of the standouts for sure.

He also got a mention in Matt Egan's summary of the scratchy the week before, how he was very close to getting all aspects in order. Given he kicked a few on Sunday one would think he is every chance of playing Saturday.

Name a forward in our team that is setting the world on fire apart from Hannon.

10 minutes ago, willmoy said:

Name a forward in our team that is setting the world on fire apart from Hannon.

You are clutching at straws if you think Hannan is setting world on fire.

It all stems from our game plan and disposal though, not many forwards in the competition would be on fire playing for Melbourne 

"Bennell, Weideman among standouts in practice match"

Unleash them then 

This bodes well.

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/739113?fbclid=IwAR3Qo4keI3UN9C4g826HV4MqH-TQLvsDXV2j-OmxSj4JgvvtQ5Ds5Jf3I78

1 hour ago, BW511 said:

They should have been there from the first day Jackson walked in the door, regardless of Weideman's from or place in the team. We paid a lot for him and you'd think it would be smart to give him the very best resources to develop his game. Would not harm Weideman either, so it's a win-win.

Also, what is stopping Weid from getting in touch with these guys himself? He needs to get his skates on in the next 6-12 months or he'll be lost to the game

 

That may not worry him! Some people realise that senior level of the game is not for them.

Edited July 7, 20205 yr by old dee

27 minutes ago, roy11 said:

"Bennell, Weideman among standouts in practice match"

Unleash them then 

If we don't pick both of them this week then I will spew up.....

I'd also prefer ANB to Hunt at this point. Incredibly, is probably a better disposer of the ball.

1 hour ago, drdrake said:

You are clutching at straws if you think Hannan is setting world on fire.

It all stems from our game plan and disposal though, not many forwards in the competition would be on fire playing for Melbourne 

We could have the best game plan & disposal in the AFL, but when you’ve got a pack of flankers & no key position in the forward line it won’t make a shred of difference 

Its all about selection & playing to your abilities 
The coaching panel are woeful & need to be replaced 

Edited July 7, 20205 yr by Billy

Has to come in, and we have to drop one of our mid-sized forwards. Probably looking at either Melksham or Hunt (I'm thinking the latter given his last two weeks). 

Give him 4-5 weeks as a lead up full forward, use TMac/Thommo as the chop out rucks, and give him one hell of a speech that we are backing him in and we believe in him. Because the way he hasn't been played this year with our forward line being completely inept has been baffling.

5 hours ago, DurriePirate said:

Interesting the clubs gone fairly quiet on his performances in the scratchies.

Yes it’s bizarre. They have no idea

5 minutes ago, Pates said:

Has to come in, and we have to drop one of our mid-sized forwards. Probably looking at either Melksham or Hunt (I'm thinking the latter given his last two weeks). 

Give him 4-5 weeks as a lead up full forward, use TMac/Thommo as the chop out rucks, and give him one hell of a speech that we are backing him in and we believe in him. Because the way he hasn't been played this year with our forward line being completely inept has been baffling.

I HAVE BEEN SCREAMING THIS FOR WEEKS. GIVE WEIDEMAN 5-6 WEEKS. I DONT CARE IF HE DOESNT GET A KICK IN WEEK 1.  
He’s critical to our future and we need to back him in. If he doesn’t stack up, then ok set for trade and get best outcome for all.