On 22/03/2020 at 09:56, Wells 11 said:

There’s a couple of hours of my life I’ll never get back. I’m glad I know they worked so hard off season as if I didn’t Id swear theyre playing exactly the same way and repeating Exactly the same mistakes. Boring footy. Nothing team. I’m glad I don’t have to watch that [censored] for 10 more weeks. 

There are a few good points for a new coach to work on in your statement. There seems to be no player excitement left.

We reckon last year was an exception I think the one before was.

How come WC had so many intercept uncontested marks in OUR forward line > Because we continue to bomb it in .

Hibberd has been practicing by kicking it to cardboard cutouts it seems. Well in this short season these cutouts actually move ( especially the opposition ones )

Viney was great so I will cut him some slack for a couple of poor disposals. Brayshaw came good when he was on the ball. Trac has arrived , he loves short seasons.

Pickert shows Jeffie when he was fit, a good first up effort.

Sorry , but Spargo has not quite come along and Browne must be waiting for Weids to be fit.

MAy & OMac kept Kennedy & Darling relatively quiet.

Some positives, but completely undone by the way the ball was delivered into the Fwd line !!!!!

  On 22/03/2020 at 09:57, Return to Glory said:

5 debutants, jumped at the start and lost by 27 points over in Perth. I'll take it.

The score line flattered us, we were never in it.

All our scores were through hard work and no system while West Coast were effortless, much like how Richmond are.

Lazy display of one way running, absolute down hill skiers with no defensive work rate. 
Forwards were mostly pathetic, especially in the air, no improvement on 2019. 

if only the players were as good as our marketing team, now for the Goodwin sugar coat ???

  On 22/03/2020 at 10:00, Beetle said:

Let’s face it, Hibberd, Oscar and Spargo should never play a senior game again.

 

Think you are wrong about Omac, but he is a one paced player and when the better players are having their pants pulled down he gets the blame.

Pencilled that in as a loss anyway.

Always next week.........wait

Plenty of endeavour but all the old problems still there in my view. Langdon and Tomlinson were OK but managed to kick blindly into the forward 50 and to the opposition. Gawn and Oliver struggled. Viney close to bog and good work from Kossie and Lockhart but really is it about players or our systems? 

  On 22/03/2020 at 09:57, Bitter but optimistic said:

 I have lost confidence in Goodwin

That is the problem, totally coupled with his ideas and decision-making. 

The club really has a lot to answer for. What a terrible performance.

'To hell and back'... what a joke. What a pitiful performance. Once again we are all talk. 

Lets talk about the game plan. Back in 2018 when we were actually winning games I posted on here that I hated our game plan. Fwd press no matter what. Bomb it into our forward line as quick as you can and try to lock it in. The quick transition out means that the opposition get the easiest of goals. It's terrible to watch. Simply terrible. My heart is in my mouth the whole game.

When I brought it up on here, a regular poster said that this isnt what our game plan is and nearly a direct quote... "Do you think Goody is telling them to bomb it to the opposition?" A few weeks later Goody confirms that our game plan is 'Chaos ball'.

I've given Goody time, because he keeps saying that we need to improve 'the connection with our forwards' but he isnt delivering on these words. I find his media talk quite confusing and hard to listen to. I assumed this was just his persona to the media, but maybe this is just his communication style and the players arent getting it.

3 years in and we continue to bomb it in. It's simply not good enough. 

I cannot see how we had Paul Roos defensive first/limit fumbles game plan and then have transitioned into this rubbish.

We used to talk on here about 'Coach Killers' when a player would put in a terrible performance. Well... right now, Goody is a 'Player Killer'. No one enjoys being beaten like this. The players heads go down so quickly because they have to try and sprint back to stop the quick transition. They are physically and mentally spent by quarter time. They are clearly not enjoying playing the game.

 

One thing there needs fixing: kicking into the forward line. Langdon (who played a great game otherwise) was the main offender, but just so many of them coming through the middle were unable to do anything much more than bomb it in. On that score, felt like we really missed Jones and Salem.

 

 

When Petty is fit, goodbye O Mac.

  On 22/03/2020 at 10:04, Vineytime said:

Lazy display of one way running, absolute down hill skiers with no defensive work rate. 
Forwards were mostly pathetic, especially in the air, no improvement on 2019. 

if only the players were as good as our marketing team, now for the Goodwin sugar coat ???

Pretty hard to mark in packs of 6

  On 22/03/2020 at 10:06, bing181 said:

One thing there needs fixing: kicking into the forward line. Langdon (who played a great game otherwise) was the main offender, but just so many of them coming through the middle were unable to do anything much more than bomb it in. On that score, felt like we really missed Jones and Salem.

 

 

I actually thought Hibberd was worse. I counted at least half a dozen occasions he literally kicked it long to West Coast players with no Melbourne players even near them.  

Viney 3

Langdon 2

Oscar 1

  On 22/03/2020 at 10:06, wizardinoz said:

When Petty is fit, goodbye O Mac.

What the... I thought he along with May and Lever gave us something to build our defence around.  Hibberd and Jetta worry me.  Lockhart was great.

  On 22/03/2020 at 10:06, wizardinoz said:

When Petty is fit, goodbye O Mac.

When Petty is fit we might actually have big forward.

I might be on my own here, but I reckon you got to cut them some slack. I think all the uncertainty of the past 2 or 3 weeks got to them. There was no energy of the Marsh series and training pre COVID19. So I'm gunna shrug my shoulders and write this one off... NO judgement

 

  On 22/03/2020 at 10:06, bing181 said:

One thing there needs fixing: kicking into the forward line. Langdon (who played a great game otherwise) was the main offender, but just so many of them coming through the middle were unable to do anything much more than bomb it in. On that score, felt like we really missed Jones and Salem.

 

 

Feels deeper than one or two players. We were pretty much making it look hard all over the ground. To be fair they’re a very very good side....and to be fair we’re just not.  Unfortunately I think a 5 goal loss is a good result for the mediocre team we are. 

I swore at the telly as if there were 21 rounds to go! We have to punish the blokes who can't hit a relatively easy target... Tonight that means Spargo -> Out... Lever -> one more chance... Tomlinson -> slap on the wrists... Jetta -> naughty boy!... 

Worse than that ... These blokes gave us below par effort in the first half

T McDonald, Melksham, Brayshaw, Oliver, Fritsch 

Great debut Kossie!

Great game Viney!

It was a mistake not to play Jackson!

The season was effectively over before it began. 
 

Quite literally.

  On 22/03/2020 at 09:57, Bitter but optimistic said:

Deja Vu! Non existent delivery into a non existent forward line 

I don’t think it’s an ability issue so much as a structural issue.  I have lost confidence in Goodwin

Did we learn nothing from the 2018 Prelim ?

Don't lose heart BBO.  If we just keep bombing it in often enough, for long enough it will surely turn around at some point.

Our forward line looks potent on paper and will turn things around over the next 8 weeks mark my words.   Just need a bit of time to sort themselves and organise things!

And then there's that zonal defence.  Working a treat and no sign of wavering.

Goody's got this!

Edited March 22, 20205 yr by Rusty Nails

Brown is a horrible footballer and should never play again. I was an apologist for Spargo - no more. He was worse than hopeless. Hibberd is one of the main turnover offenders. Jeffy had a mare. Tomlinson gave little to be excited about. 

The main positives were Viney,  Kozzie and Lockhart.

Goodwin has a lot to answer for. 

  On 22/03/2020 at 10:09, Matt Demon said:

When Petty is fit we might actually have big forward.

Perhaps. But won't make a difference the way the ball's coming in. Tom Mac, Fritsch, Melksham, Petracca when he's there ... they're all good forwards that would walk into any team in the league.

  On 22/03/2020 at 10:01, dazzledavey36 said:

Oscar beat Darling.

Harsh

Perhaps I am being harsh on Oscar dazzle I apologise. I probably emphasise on the negatives more than his positives...he just really leaves me underwhelmed as a whole, but 1 goal and 8 possessions for Darling is commendable for Oscar’s efforts you’re right.

This game was just a kick in the balls for the rejuvenated hope I gained since last August..

  On 22/03/2020 at 09:57, Bitter but optimistic said:

Deja Vu!       Non existent delivery into a non existent forward line 

I have lost confidence in Goodwin

Come on you cannot blame Goodwin,  he didn't kick it to their backmen in our forward line, In fact he Goodwin didn't get a kick.

He had no influence.....and no idea......but then neither do eye.

was looking forward to this game   now i need a break, or a mexican beer!

 

how do I cancel the automatic renewal !