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[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

Press conference currently underway

$3M funding to upgrade Gosch's Paddock to "AFL size" (presumably that's MCG equivalent)?

$2M from MOPT, $500k from the AFL and MFC.

"The oval will be resurfaced and enlarged to MCG sized length and Marvel Stadium sized width."

[Dr. Gonzo 24,274]

5 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I suspect it is just a coincidence. These negotiations would have taken many, many months, if not years.

What I suspect is not a coincidence, though, is that the State Government has come to the party after we've publicly stated we're getting out of the pokies industry. I imagine any State Government approval was contingent on that decision.

Why would the govt care whether we're in pokies or not? The machines still exist, the govt still gets their tax money from their operation. Why would they care who runs them? Is it so they can feed more pokies machines into the hands of their donors?

[deebug 1,754]

Is there any room to allow for a bigger ground??

[roy11 3,893]

So MCG is 160m Long and 141m wide
Docklands is 159.5m by 128.5 m

 

Someone get the Strava out and let us know what the current oval is

Edited August 2, 2021 by roy11
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[Adam The God 30,404]

22 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Press conference currently underway

$3M funding to upgrade Gosch's Paddock to "AFL size" (presumably that's MCG equivalent)?

$2M from MOPT, $500k from the AFL and MFC.

So presumably we're kicking in somewhere between $250k-400k. That's a good result for a redevelopment and leaves us cash rich to backstop the 2020-2021 financial hits to revenue.

[Smokey 4,389]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Why would the govt care whether we're in pokies or not? The machines still exist, the govt still gets their tax money from their operation. Why would they care who runs them? Is it so they can feed more pokies machines into the hands of their donors?

Sad and true. Why would the government care about about the terrible social issues these machines create when they make everyone so much money? 

[Demonland 73,139]

 

[dice 712]

10 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Press conference currently underway

$3M funding to upgrade Gosch's Paddock to "AFL size" (presumably that's MCG equivalent)?

$2M from MOPT, $500k from the AFL and MFC.

Is that all? In the meantime, Geelong get $40m from the Government and Bulldogs get $36m. What a joke.

[Clintosaurus 7,861]

We will get the benefit of AAMI getting expanded for the Women's World Cup in 2023.

[JTR 2,854]

18 minutes ago, roy11 said:

So MCG is 160m Long and 141m wide
Docklands is 159.5m by 128.5 m

 

Someone get the Strava out and let us know what the current oval is

Google Earth says Gosch's is 155m long and 110m wide

 

Edit - for width comparison, GMHBA is 115m 

 

Edited August 2, 2021 by JTR

[daisycutter 29,728]

5 minutes ago, JTR said:

Google Earth says 155m long and 110m wide

thanks, good work, but is that boundary line to boundary line or fence to fence?

[roy11 3,893]

7 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

We will get the benefit of AAMI getting expanded for the Women's World Cup in 2023.

Thought the only thing happening in VIC was the 'Home of the Matildas'/FV upgrade at La Trobe Uni?

[DeeSpencer 26,077]

Seems a horrendous waste of money to upgrade AAMI for a couple of games on women's soccer that easily could be played at Marvel or the MCG, but if we get a cut of it then sounds ok.

My main concern would be making sure our facilities are (somewhat) standalone and controlled by the club. And potentially finding a way to run side businesses out of them to generate revenue.

Bigger oval is nice. MCG size would've been optimal, maybe someone can sneak down and add a few metres when they stake it out.

[JTR 2,854]

3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

thanks, good work, but is that boundary line to boundary line or fence to fence?

155m long and 110m wide is boundary to boundary

Fence to fence Gosch's is 165m long and 120m wide

 

[Clintosaurus 7,861]

6 minutes ago, roy11 said:

Thought the only thing happening in VIC was the 'Home of the Matildas'/FV upgrade at La Trobe Uni?

I was only repeating what @Gouga said on the previous page.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

24 minutes ago, dice said:

Is that all? In the meantime, Geelong get $40m from the Government and Bulldogs get $36m. What a joke.

This is just for the oval at this stage, wait and see what happens when we get to the actual home base stage.

 

[Demons1858 1,766]

Without knowing anything but having heard both bartlett and roffey speak,  l am guessing the former was holding out for a better home base than what looks to have been offered as part of the women's world cup development

[Pates 9,660]

I’m pretty sure I remembered hearing that the “home base” would be a collective of two announcements where the first will be focused on the oval itself while the last details are being ironed out for our new home facility which will be right next to it. 

Either way this is good news. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

8 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Seems a horrendous waste of money to upgrade AAMI for a couple of games on women's soccer that easily could be played at Marvel or the MCG, but if we get a cut of it then sounds ok.

My main concern would be making sure our facilities are (somewhat) standalone and controlled by the club. And potentially finding a way to run side businesses out of them to generate revenue.

Bigger oval is nice. MCG size would've been optimal, maybe someone can sneak down and add a few metres when they stake it out.

Women's World Cup takes place right in the middle of the AFL season.

 

[Clintosaurus 7,861]

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Seems a horrendous waste of money to upgrade AAMI for a couple of games on women's soccer that easily could be played at Marvel or the MCG, but if we get a cut of it then sounds ok.

My main concern would be making sure our facilities are (somewhat) standalone and controlled by the club. And potentially finding a way to run side businesses out of them to generate revenue.

Bigger oval is nice. MCG size would've been optimal, maybe someone can sneak down and add a few metres when they stake it out.

AFL said No to MCG or Marvel having any games.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

When I see how clubs like Geelong and Footscray manage to get second and third bites at Gov't funding for upgraded facilities they already have (paid for by Gov't), it seems the important thing is to get the facility by whatever means, then work away at the gov't, like ants nibbling at a carcass, to get a second round of upgrades (for the community! not for us, oh no!), then rinse & repeat.

"Minister, how can we get more girls & disabled genderqueer refugees playing sport without a small elevated viewing area -- some might call it a grandstand -- at Gosch's? Oh, and while you're at it, a function room and merchandise shop would be good too."

Edited August 2, 2021 by Mazer Rackham

[roy11 3,893]

20 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

I was only repeating what @Gouga said on the previous page.

Apologies, missed that post.

Have strong doubts they'll do anything substantial at AAMI prior to the WWC but don't know what the internal facilities are like/that may need an upgrade.

 

 

Edited August 2, 2021 by roy11

[old dee 23,871]

8 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

AFL said No to MCG or Marvel having any games.

They might be played at Goschs' !

[DeeSpencer 26,077]

6 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Women's World Cup takes place right in the middle of the AFL season.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

AFL said No to MCG or Marvel having any games.

That's a failure of the AFL/State Governments/FIFA/Football Aus to negotiate better outcomes, particularly with nonsense around stadium shutdowns/signage etc.

Those kind of decisions should be re-evaluated now it's Covid times and everyone has had to cooperate better. 

I guess it could be handy for the occasional big final or concert but it's also going to hurt the atmosphere at home and away storm/victory/other games played there too. The stadium is a success because it's so appropriate for the teams.

Anyway, hopefully it works for us and I guess it won't be the dodgiest economic stimulus going around. 

[Demon_spurs 1,867]

22 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Seems a horrendous waste of money to upgrade AAMI for a couple of games on women's soccer that easily could be played at Marvel or the MCG, but if we get a cut of it then sounds ok.

My main concern would be making sure our facilities are (somewhat) standalone and controlled by the club. And potentially finding a way to run side businesses out of them to generate revenue.

Bigger oval is nice. MCG size would've been optimal, maybe someone can sneak down and add a few metres when they stake it out.

Have you ever been to a Soccer game at Docklands?  The paying patrons sit so far away from the action, it kills the atmosphere (Not that the ground has the greatest atmosphere anyhow). Oval grounds aren't great for Soccer matches (in my opinion). However watching Soccer at the Bubble is fantastic, you sit right on top of the action