Training Ground?

[Supreme_Demon 3,903]

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1477323/melbourne-commences-caulfield-feasibility-study

Hooray!!! Good to see something happening.....finally!

Didn't former Melbourne President and legendary player Stuart Spencer talk about the possibility of Caulfield Racecourse in 1990?! It's only taken 33 years!

Anyway, looking forward to seeing what this feasibility study entails and how much a Demons Home Base will actually cost?

[wonnabeeri 277]

7 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

I’m a total nuff on this kind of thing. But what exactly does an announcement about the go ahead for a feasibility study mean in real terms? explain it like i’m 5.

Or, explain it in relational terms.  i’m dating someone new. …. where am I at in this relationship? 

 

It means the current board is trying to sway a few swing voters in the current board election. Probably garbage

[whatwhat say what 23,072]

11 minutes ago, old dee said:

Thank you guys for the info on Caulfield. I don't see us holding our first training session there anytime this decade. It's a long way off ladies and gentlemen. 

Which part of by 2028 in the news report did you ignore?

Such a Hanrahan

[chookrat 4,268]

5 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

I’m a total nuff on this kind of thing. But what exactly does an announcement about the go ahead for a feasibility study mean in real terms? explain it like i’m 5.

Or, explain it in relational terms.  i’m dating someone new. …. where am I at in this relationship? 

 

You're in your 50's and have never been in a committed relationship but are desperate to meet someone and and build a life together. Every prospective partner in the past 20 years has turned you down after your high school sweetheart Amy Parks wanted a relationship but you were afraid to commit and she moved on with your nemesis. Your mum has now arranged for you to meet a girl through a family connection through lack of any other options but you have very little in common and have started to work out what you have to offer her and her family before you actually meet each other.

[daisycutter 29,795]

1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

latest on it: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/demons-secure-backing-from-caulfield-racecourse-trust-to-press-on-with-new-hq-talks/news-story/3b9d73d7e71ac4f77de8c4f22821aea4

 

aft

[BDA 22,955]

Thank Christ the MCG pipedream has been put to bed.

Sounds like as long as we keep the Melbourne Racing Club sweet this should get done. 

From a selfish point of view Caulfield is a great option. I'm just 3 stops away on the train or 10 mins drive away.

Get it done Kate.

 

[Wells 11 5,436]

36 minutes ago, chookrat said:

You're in your 50's and have never been in a committed relationship but are desperate to meet someone and and build a life together. Every prospective partner in the past 20 years has turned you down after your high school sweetheart Amy Parks wanted a relationship but you were afraid to commit and she moved on with your nemesis. Your mum has now arranged for you to meet a girl through a family connection through lack of any other options but you have very little in common and have started to work out what you have to offer her and her family before you actually meet each other.

that dismal huh… 😞

[Pipefitter 2,180]

This press release is the equivalent of asking for an extension for your homework. Disappointing that we wasted 5 years on the MCG precinct. 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

This will be good for improving culture, finish training then go and have a punt on the nags afterwards.

[Redleg 41,717]

1 hour ago, Dannyz said:

Exclusive from Mr Pert tonight that I told you all on on November 25. 

😂

Not to blow my own trumpet, but a few months before that, I said that Caulfield would happen, after a number of issues like length of lease/licence, community involvement and finance etc, were worked out.

But more importantly than who is breaking the news is of course the news itself.

Go Dees.

[DeeSpencer 26,091]

1 hour ago, Wells 11 said:

I’m a total nuff on this kind of thing. But what exactly does an announcement about the go ahead for a feasibility study mean in real terms? explain it like i’m 5.

Or, explain it in relational terms.  i’m dating someone new. …. where am I at in this relationship? 

 

Both sides have seen a mutually beneficial opportunity, so now they study just what it entails.

Dees will say we need an oval, an office building, change rooms, a pool, a gym etc.

Caulfield say we’d love to have an oval in the infield if it doesn’t disrupt racing, we can sell or rent you land for your building for x amount of cost.

Both sides then present a case to the local council (and any government that will have them) on funding for the oval in exchange for allowing public access and community sport. Perhaps the same for the gym and pool. If the numbers line up for everyone involved we’ve got a deal.

The best case for Caulfield is they’ve already got or need a lot of things:

- hospitality and catering, we don’t need to spend on a cafe or members function space, we can use theirs.

- the oval - every local council needs more and they have a heap of space at Caulfield

- pool and gym - if we are willing to share they’re about to have 5,000 new residents who’ll need somewhere to swim and work out 

- medical facilities can be shared with the community similar to the Saints at Moorabbin 

There’s a lot of potential for something to work here.

 

Edited December 12, 2023 by DeeSpencer

[Wells 11 5,436]

27 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Both sides have seen a mutually beneficial opportunity, so now they study just what it entails.

Dees will say we need an oval, an office building, change rooms, a pool, a gym etc.

Caulfield say we’d love to have an oval in the infield if it doesn’t disrupt racing, we can sell or rent you land for your building for x amount of cost.

Both sides then present a case to the local council (and any government that will have them) on funding for the oval in exchange for allowing public access and community sport. Perhaps the same for the gym and pool. If the numbers line up for everyone involved we’ve got a deal.

The best case for Caulfield is they’ve already got or need a lot of things:

- hospitality and catering, we don’t need to spend on a cafe or members function space, we can use theirs.

- the oval - every local council needs more and they have a heap of space at Caulfield

- pool and gym - if we are willing to share they’re about to have 5,000 new residents who’ll need somewhere to swim and work out 

- medical facilities can be shared with the community similar to the Saints at Moorabbin 

There’s a lot of potential for something to work here.

 

Good run down thanks. As another bonus perhaps everyone who joins the gym has a Melbourne membership built in. 

[The Jackson FIX 3,218]

34 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Both sides have seen a mutually beneficial opportunity, so now they study just what it entails.

Dees will say we need an oval, an office building, change rooms, a pool, a gym etc.

Caulfield say we’d love to have an oval in the infield if it doesn’t disrupt racing, we can sell or rent you land for your building for x amount of cost.

Both sides then present a case to the local council (and any government that will have them) on funding for the oval in exchange for allowing public access and community sport. Perhaps the same for the gym and pool. If the numbers line up for everyone involved we’ve got a deal.

The best case for Caulfield is they’ve already got or need a lot of things:

- hospitality and catering, we don’t need to spend on a cafe or members function space, we can use theirs.

- the oval - every local council needs more and they have a heap of space at Caulfield

- pool and gym - if we are willing to share they’re about to have 5,000 new residents who’ll need somewhere to swim and work out 

- medical facilities can be shared with the community similar to the Saints at Moorabbin 

There’s a lot of potential for something to work here.

 

Yep this is about right but I’d say the feasibility study is more about creating an independent business case for government funding.  Caulfield want $$ (lots, apparently) so they’ve both agreed that a feasibility study to ‘determine the benefits to the community’ is a great way to lobby the government for said $$. Smart.

[DeeSpencer 26,091]

17 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Yep this is about right but I’d say the feasibility study is more about creating an independent business case for government funding.  Caulfield want $$ (lots, apparently) so they’ve both agreed that a feasibility study to ‘determine the benefits to the community’ is a great way to lobby the government for said $$. Smart.

Yeah the one thing I had really wrong was that we’re actually dealing with the Caulfield Rec Reserve Trust who oversee the site and the MRC are tenants. We’d obviously need a symbiotic relationship with the MRC too but really it’s dealing with a Trust who from what I can tell are short of cash and very keen to get development going.

And a local council that’s serious short on sporting facilities. 

Here’s their Dec 2023 strategic management plan.

https://www.crrt.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/CRRT-Strategic-Management-Plan-December-2023.pdf
 

Go to page 14/15 to see the ‘recreation administration precinct’ that looks a lot like a code for Dees base!

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57 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Not to blow my own trumpet, but a few months before that, I said that Caulfield would happen, after a number of issues like length of lease/licence, community involvement and finance etc, were worked out.

But more importantly than who is breaking the news is of course the news itself.

Go Dees.

Congrats…yes, you told us so. Do you believe it is the best move possible for us?

it is reasonably close to CBD, we will still call MCG home .And most probably keep relationship with Casey.

[jayceebee31 761]

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Yeah the one thing I had really wrong was that we’re actually dealing with the Caulfield Rec Reserve Trust who oversee the site and the MRC are tenants. We’d obviously need a symbiotic relationship with the MRC too but really it’s dealing with a Trust who from what I can tell are short of cash and very keen to get development going.

And a local council that’s serious short on sporting facilities. 

Here’s their Dec 2023 strategic management plan.

https://www.crrt.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/CRRT-Strategic-Management-Plan-December-2023.pdf
 

Go to page 14/15 to see the ‘recreation administration precinct’ that looks a lot like a code for Dees base!

 

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Yeah the one thing I had really wrong was that we’re actually dealing with the Caulfield Rec Reserve Trust who oversee the site and the MRC are tenants. We’d obviously need a symbiotic relationship with the MRC too but really it’s dealing with a Trust who from what I can tell are short of cash and very keen to get development going.

And a local council that’s serious short on sporting facilities. 

Here’s their Dec 2023 strategic management plan.

https://www.crrt.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/CRRT-Strategic-Management-Plan-December-2023.pdf
 

Go to page 14/15 to see the ‘recreation administration precinct’ that looks a lot like a code for Dees base!

Thanks for insight.Very interesting indeed….seems like they may have been speaking for a period of time.

[DemonWheels 1,099]

Love this opportunity and the fact the Dees board feel comfortable advertising the possibility would suggest they’ve already jumped quite a few hurdles to get to this point and are happy with the direction it’s heading. We’re not homeless so let’s get it right and we’ll be happy for 50+ years while other inner city clubs are now running out of space.

[Satan 2,885]

Getting a few more votes just before thursday?

[DeeSpencer 26,091]

4 minutes ago, jayceebee31 said:

 

Thanks for insight.Very interesting indeed….seems like they may have been speaking for a period of time.

This was from April.

https://amp.theage.com.au/national/victoria/battle-over-caulfield-racecourse-access-as-trust-runs-out-of-money-20230413-p5d03m.html
 

Short version is: trust is broke, race course hasn’t cleaned up some of their junk, environmentalists sniffing around trying to save a dam that isn’t worth pissing in.

The new plan seems to cater for everyone without being as ambitious as what they first planned when the racecourse redevelopment was announced.

Trust wants some cash invested. Council wants ovals. We want facilities room. MRC probably want some goodwill and someone to order some coffees and sandwiches.

[jayceebee31 761]

25 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

This was from April.

https://amp.theage.com.au/national/victoria/battle-over-caulfield-racecourse-access-as-trust-runs-out-of-money-20230413-p5d03m.html
 

Short version is: trust is broke, race course hasn’t cleaned up some of their junk, environmentalists sniffing around trying to save a dam that isn’t worth pissing in.

The new plan seems to cater for everyone without being as ambitious as what they first planned when the racecourse redevelopment was announced.

Trust wants some cash invested. Council wants ovals. We want facilities room. MRC probably want some goodwill and someone to order some coffees and sandwiches.

Cheers…

[Diamond_Jim 12,639]

2 hours ago, chookrat said:

You're in your 50's and have never been in a committed relationship but are desperate to meet someone and and build a life together. Every prospective partner in the past 20 years has turned you down after your high school sweetheart Amy Parks wanted a relationship but you were afraid to commit and she moved on with your nemesis. Your mum has now arranged for you to meet a girl through a family connection through lack of any other options but you have very little in common and have started to work out what you have to offer her and her family before you actually meet each other.

Are you telling me it's an arranged wedding

Bollywood.... here we come

[Hellfire Dub 165]

3 hours ago, chookrat said:

You're in your 50's and have never been in a committed relationship but are desperate to meet someone and and build a life together. Every prospective partner in the past 20 years has turned you down after your high school sweetheart Amy Parks wanted a relationship but you were afraid to commit and she moved on with your nemesis. Your mum has now arranged for you to meet a girl through a family connection through lack of any other options but you have very little in common and have started to work out what you have to offer her and her family before you actually meet each other.

This is one of the wittiest and best written posts I've read on Demonland.  Thanks for making me laugh out loud!  

[samcantstandya 1,067]

3 hours ago, BDA said:

Thank Christ the MCG pipedream has been put to bed.

Sounds like as long as we keep the Melbourne Racing Club sweet this should get done. 

From a selfish point of view Caulfield is a great option. I'm just 3 stops away on the train or 10 mins drive away.

Get it done Kate.

 

I'm only one station away and could walk there.

[Redleg 41,717]

1 hour ago, jayceebee31 said:

Congrats…yes, you told us so. Do you believe it is the best move possible for us?

it is reasonably close to CBD, we will still call MCG home .And most probably keep relationship with Casey.

Personally I can’t see any better alternative and the possibilities there are enormous.

Exciting times ahead.

[Palace Dees 2,352]

A Premiership and a home base in the same decade......

Who'd uv thunk it?  🫠