Training Ground?

[old dee 23,872]

18 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Be thankful that you were around to see the 2021 flag.

How many long suffering supporters were not as lucky as you and I?

Two that spring to mind are Jimmy and Robbie

I am DD but that is another subject. I have confidence we will win another flag before we get a new home ground be it Caulfield or an alternative.

[Redleg 41,462]

22 hours ago, old dee said:

I am DD but that is another subject. I have confidence we will win another flag before we get a new home ground be it Caulfield or an alternative.

You think we will win the flag next year?

Given a good fixture, good injury run and player development we could.

[58er 6,565]

On 27/10/2024 at 06:58, Demonsone said:

Looking at the time line over the last 25yrs it shows how poorly our administration has performed & going around in circles! The current Pert & co need to be questioned if this falls over!  Both hawks & Collingwood found sites outside of their original home grounds and the hawks are onto their 2nd site! 

Well Demonsome we just don’t have an original home ground to just start off. You know that so why blame Gary Pert that we have finally a destination in an inner city area close to our major fan base in the SE suburbs. 

A number of places have been mooted near the MCG over time and ruled out by Govt or local needs already established. In the meantime we have had Casey developed for our AFLW teams and VFL shared for our seconds. 

Where do you think we should have got by now ? 

Are  you happy with Caulfield as it is the middle of a business plan stage after it passed feasibility stage just recently by Local parties involved ? 

[58er 6,565]

On 27/10/2024 at 17:40, old dee said:

I think that is the joke of the week, morals and governments in the same sentence. The only thing that motivates governments are votes and returning to power. Sadly there are very few votes in the MFC.

The facility has fairly strong amenities included for  local sport and participation in the plans not just for us. OD. Please get the facts correct it doesn’t help the case especially when criticism of third parties is inaccurate and ill informed. 

[old dee 23,872]

5 hours ago, Redleg said:

You think we will win the flag next year?

Given a good fixture, good injury run and player development we could.

Not sure about a flag next year but whenever it is will be before the first player runs onto a new home.

[Clintosaurus 7,867]

6 hours ago, Redleg said:

You think we will win the flag next year?

Given a good fixture, good injury run and player development we could.

I think we can. I expect a few of us do.

[whatwhat say what 22,948]

fwiw, work on the crom's new home base at thebarton oval is due to begin later this month

they started the process to leave the old and outdated football park in 2013, and explored four different options - most blocked by local council - before getting an agreement in place for thebbie

these things take a long, long time

$100m spend, likely to be completed in 2027

[Fritta and Turner 4,540]

fwiw I spoke to one of the candidates for the Glen Eira council, who expressed support for the MFC facilities.  They got elected.

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,307]

Here's another entity that may be supporting (and helping fund??) our move. It's gotta be influential, right? What else could be expected from the *cough* 'No.1 club'?...

Today's Age:

'Collingwood presidential candidate Barry Carp is determined to maintain the Magpies' position as the league's "No.1 club", as the Pies eye potentially taking over Melbourne's AAMI Park facilities in future...'

'...the Magpies were poised to confirm...that if and when the Demons leave AAMI Park for a new home, the Pies would look at expansion.'

'"We are in the best sporting precinct in the world...So any opportunity to...expand that...we'd have a look at. And...[taking over Melbourne's space at AAMI Park] would be part of that."'

 

[Lucifers Hero 40,364]

13 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Here's another entity that may be supporting (and helping fund??) our move. It's gotta be influential, right? What else could be expected from the *cough* 'No.1 club'?...

Today's Age:

'Collingwood presidential candidate Barry Carp is determined to maintain the Magpies' position as the league's "No.1 club", as the Pies eye potentially taking over Melbourne's AAMI Park facilities in future...'

'...the Magpies were poised to confirm...that if and when the Demons leave AAMI Park for a new home, the Pies would look at expansion.'

'"We are in the best sporting precinct in the world...So any opportunity to...expand that...we'd have a look at. And...[taking over Melbourne's space at AAMI Park] would be part of that."'

 

btw the 🤮is for their smug entitled club not in any way for your good self, Tim.

 

[biggestred 5,140]

probably suggest melbourne storm and melbourne victory might have issues with that.

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,307]

49 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

btw the 🤮is for their smug entitled club not in any way for your good self, Tim.

 

Exactly as I understood it, Luci!

It helped that it precisely matched my feelings! 😄

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,307]

2 minutes ago, biggestred said:

probably suggest melbourne storm and melbourne victory might have issues with that.

A Storm-Pies stoush. Wouldn't that be great theatre!

[Wells 11 5,422]

1 hour ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Here's another entity that may be supporting (and helping fund??) our move. It's gotta be influential, right? What else could be expected from the *cough* 'No.1 club'?...

Today's Age:

'Collingwood presidential candidate Barry Carp is determined to maintain the Magpies' position as the league's "No.1 club", as the Pies eye potentially taking over Melbourne's AAMI Park facilities in future...'

'...the Magpies were poised to confirm...that if and when the Demons leave AAMI Park for a new home, the Pies would look at expansion.'

'"We are in the best sporting precinct in the world...So any opportunity to...expand that...we'd have a look at. And...[taking over Melbourne's space at AAMI Park] would be part of that."'

 

The sad truth is that if there’s something in it for the pies it’s more likely to go ahead isn’t it. 

[sue 9,145]

1 minute ago, Wells 11 said:

The sad truth is that if there’s something in it for the pies it’s more likely to go ahead isn’t it. 

True, and it may help with us getting Caufield.  Pies may 'assist' us to get what they want.

[dpositive 1,693]

On 29/10/2024 at 14:00, 58er said:

 

Where do you think we should have got by now ? 

Are  you happy with Caulfield as it is the middle of a business plan stage after it passed feasibility stage just recently by Local parties involved ? 

Demonsone did mention Fishermans Bend Port / Melbourne. I never did see any formal analysis of any development there. Had informal discussion with Kate Roffey and did put formal position to Pert but never received any acknowledgement.

While i support the club and therefore Caulfield and happy to see it proceed it is undoubted that we have lost many opportunities, and perhaps not even pursued many.

i would still like to see the club involve all its membership to progress this matter,. Again i do not see any indication from Pert that this is likely. I hope he now has time and influence to progress Caulfield more quickly than ever.

A new Board may address this issue (a new training admin facility) as a priority and perhaps put some genuine realistic time frames.

 

[dpositive 1,693]

On 27/10/2024 at 11:41, Demonsone said:

Pert & co have been there since 2018 and I’m sorry many missed opportunities & blinkers on the mcg precinct … Even the swans found a place not far from the scg …. Honestly Caulfield is a pipe dream!  Port Melb fishermen bend development was announced years ago and a club port melb ground in need for redevelopment, same theme song successful history… all those warehouses are going around & in fact the council are turning one of them into a sports oval …understanding commercials are complex but which players are attracted to drive 50mins to Casey … nothing against Casey either but were was the thinking behind this with previous boards 

You make some valid points. I hope Caulfield is not a pipe dream but it does have some elements.

I was accused of presenting FB/PM sites as a pipe dream in informal talks with Kate Roffey. I made a presentation to G Pert after the last AGM but did not receive any formal acknowledgement, let alone response to my queries.

I still believe we have missed many opportunities, and hope we are not missing more while focusing on Caulfield.

A new Board could begin by setting some time and financial guidelines and targets to ensure we do not have a G Pert retirement guarantee fund. 

[Supreme_Demon 3,899]

Sadly, I think the MCG precinct plan is now not plausible.

That is why we ARE focused on having a Home Base at Caulfield Racecourse.

Hopefully, this will be the main priority (besides winning Premierships) of the Melbourne Football Club Board. We simply cannot be nomads for another 160+ years!

Edited November 22 by Supreme_Demon

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

From today's Age....

Outgoing Demons chief executive Gary Pert said the Demons were in a strong financial position, underpinned by a future fund of $23.7 million, while there are $9.5 million of funds available for investment in the club’s training and administration project.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/exercising-with-demons-christian-petracca-returns-to-training-track-20241122-p5kssh.html

First time I've seen that figure of $9.5M. Personally I'm glad we're not putting future fund money into the training facility

[dice 712]

4 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

First time I've seen that figure of $9.5M. Personally I'm glad we're not putting future fund money into the training facility

$9.5m - that should just be enough for the fertiliser.

Might have to hit Chris Barlow up for some coin

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,809]

On 22/11/2024 at 09:41, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Here's another entity that may be supporting (and helping fund??) our move. It's gotta be influential, right? What else could be expected from the *cough* 'No.1 club'?...

Today's Age:

'Collingwood presidential candidate Barry Carp is determined to maintain the Magpies' position as the league's "No.1 club", as the Pies eye potentially taking over Melbourne's AAMI Park facilities in future...'

'...the Magpies were poised to confirm...that if and when the Demons leave AAMI Park for a new home, the Pies would look at expansion.'

'"We are in the best sporting precinct in the world...So any opportunity to...expand that...we'd have a look at. And...[taking over Melbourne's space at AAMI Park] would be part of that."'

 

Would it be wrong to leave some land mines when we go?

[Grr-owl 1,251]

17 hours ago, dice said:

$9.5m - that should just be enough for the fertiliser.

Might have to hit Chris Barlow up for some coin

Is he from the Barlow Group? Heard they had some setbacks with that project at the airport a few years back...

[dice 712]

1 hour ago, Grr-owl said:

Is he from the Barlow Group? Heard they had some setbacks with that project at the airport a few years back...

Don't think so. You might be referring to this Chris Barlow

[biggestred 5,140]

1 hour ago, Grr-owl said:

Is he from the Barlow Group? Heard they had some setbacks with that project at the airport a few years back...

The Barlow group IS airlink. 

[Fritta and Turner 4,540]

According to the MFC Financial Statements the club currently has $9.6 mill in financial assets allocated to the Training and Admin Facility (TAF).  The club is confident that this can be raised to $15 mill.

The capital in the Future Fund will not be used for this purpose but some of the income generated by the FF maybe, until the $15 mill target is reached.

The cost of the feasibility study of $300,000 was totally funded by the state government.