Training Ground?

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,360]

1 minute ago, Demonsone said:

Looking at the time line over the last 25yrs it shows how poorly our administration has performed & going around in circles! The current Pert & co need to be questioned if this falls over!  Both hawks & Collingwood found sites outside of their original home grounds and the hawks are onto their 2nd site! 

I think the main reason is we spent years and years trying to get something near the MCG. If we just started looking at different locations sooner we would have something by now.

[Demonsone 2,029]

4 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I think the main reason is we spent years and years trying to get something near the MCG. If we just started looking at different locations sooner we would have something by now.

Correct, utterly frustrating watching other clubs secure funding whilst watching us go around in circles!

Edited Saturday at 21:06 by Demonsone

[george_on_the_outer 7,539]

1 hour ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I think the main reason is we spent years and years trying to get something near the MCG. If we just started looking at different locations sooner we would have something by now.

Correct.  Looking back at the proposals which have come from the Board in the past 10 years, blind Freddy would see that none were going to solve the needs of the club. 

Yarra Park..you have got to be joking.  Needed to move as much earth as the great pyramid and the residents were always going to object.  Carparks E & F at AAMI...did anyone actually walk across to see the miniscule patch of ground this offered?  Let's have an admin building overlooking Collingwoods training ground....sheesh.

The Caulfield redevelopment was announced in 2021!.  We are closing in on 2025, and not a single sod of earth has been moved. 4 years of further nothing. 

  @old dee and I are running out of years....

Edited Saturday at 22:30 by george_on_the_outer

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,360]

1 hour ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Correct.  Looking back at the proposals which have come from the Board in the past 10 years, blind Freddy would see that none were going to solve the needs of the club. 

Yarra Park..you have got to be joking.  Needed to move as much earth as the great pyramid and the residents were always going to object.  Carparks E & F at AAMI...did anyone actually walk across to see the miniscule patch of ground this offered?  Let's have an admin building overlooking Collingwoods training ground....sheesh.

The Caulfield redevelopment was announced in 2021!.  We are closing in on 2025, and not a single sod of earth has been moved. 4 years of further nothing. 

  @old dee and I are running out of years....

Yep. But it goes further than just the current board and Gary Pert. I mean we had Cameron Schwab spending his days making a new emblem that had about 10 different meanings and was terrible to look at.

[drysdale demon 4,793]

On 25/10/2024 at 17:31, Hawk the Demon said:

I don't think the plan includes any borrowing...

You wouldn't know

[Demonsone 2,029]

1 hour ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Yep. But it goes further than just the current board and Gary Pert. I mean we had Cameron Schwab spending his days making a new emblem that had about 10 different meanings and was terrible to look at.

Pert & co have been there since 2018 and I’m sorry many missed opportunities & blinkers on the mcg precinct … Even the swans found a place not far from the scg …. Honestly Caulfield is a pipe dream!  Port Melb fishermen bend development was announced years ago and a club port melb ground in need for redevelopment, same theme song successful history… all those warehouses are going around & in fact the council are turning one of them into a sports oval …understanding commercials are complex but which players are attracted to drive 50mins to Casey … nothing against Casey either but were was the thinking behind this with previous boards 

Edited Sunday at 00:42 by Demonsone

[samcantstandya 1,041]

19 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

I think most of the Hawks money has come from the sale of the Waverley gardens , and Caroline springs Pokie venues.  Something in the order of $40m profit! ....with the total sales at around $50M. 

The majority of the reminaining will come from "consolidated revenues" built up from running these venues for a long time.  In other words, they already have the money in the bank.  And given that they are only seeking $5M from members, it gives you a fair idea of how far ahead they are compared to us. 

 

Profits from the misery of others who gambled their $$$ away, whilst we walked away from gambling $$$ the hawks feathered their nest. The govt should think about that and supports clubs like us that have morals.

[old dee 23,647]

9 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Correct.  Looking back at the proposals which have come from the Board in the past 10 years, blind Freddy would see that none were going to solve the needs of the club. 

Yarra Park..you have got to be joking.  Needed to move as much earth as the great pyramid and the residents were always going to object.  Carparks E & F at AAMI...did anyone actually walk across to see the miniscule patch of ground this offered?  Let's have an admin building overlooking Collingwoods training ground....sheesh.

The Caulfield redevelopment was announced in 2021!.  We are closing in on 2025, and not a single sod of earth has been moved. 4 years of further nothing. 

  @old dee and I are running out of years....

George I have conceded that I will probably not see a new home. Sadly I am not convinced that Caulfield will fly. 

[old dee 23,647]

6 hours ago, samcantstandya said:

Profits from the misery of others who gambled their $$$ away, whilst we walked away from gambling $$$ the hawks feathered their nest. The govt should think about that and supports clubs like us that have morals.

I think that is the joke of the week, morals and governments in the same sentence. The only thing that motivates governments are votes and returning to power. Sadly there are very few votes in the MFC.

[Demon Disciple 11,970]

10 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

 

  @old dee and I are running out of years....

Be thankful that you were around to see the 2021 flag.

How many long suffering supporters were not as lucky as you and I?

Two that spring to mind are Jimmy and Robbie

[old dee 23,647]

18 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Be thankful that you were around to see the 2021 flag.

How many long suffering supporters were not as lucky as you and I?

Two that spring to mind are Jimmy and Robbie

I am DD but that is another subject. I have confidence we will win another flag before we get a new home ground be it Caulfield or an alternative.

[Redleg 40,740]

22 hours ago, old dee said:

I am DD but that is another subject. I have confidence we will win another flag before we get a new home ground be it Caulfield or an alternative.

You think we will win the flag next year?

Given a good fixture, good injury run and player development we could.

[58er 6,301]

On 27/10/2024 at 06:58, Demonsone said:

Looking at the time line over the last 25yrs it shows how poorly our administration has performed & going around in circles! The current Pert & co need to be questioned if this falls over!  Both hawks & Collingwood found sites outside of their original home grounds and the hawks are onto their 2nd site! 

Well Demonsome we just don’t have an original home ground to just start off. You know that so why blame Gary Pert that we have finally a destination in an inner city area close to our major fan base in the SE suburbs. 

A number of places have been mooted near the MCG over time and ruled out by Govt or local needs already established. In the meantime we have had Casey developed for our AFLW teams and VFL shared for our seconds. 

Where do you think we should have got by now ? 

Are  you happy with Caulfield as it is the middle of a business plan stage after it passed feasibility stage just recently by Local parties involved ? 

[58er 6,301]

On 27/10/2024 at 17:40, old dee said:

I think that is the joke of the week, morals and governments in the same sentence. The only thing that motivates governments are votes and returning to power. Sadly there are very few votes in the MFC.

The facility has fairly strong amenities included for  local sport and participation in the plans not just for us. OD. Please get the facts correct it doesn’t help the case especially when criticism of third parties is inaccurate and ill informed. 

[old dee 23,647]

5 hours ago, Redleg said:

You think we will win the flag next year?

Given a good fixture, good injury run and player development we could.

Not sure about a flag next year but whenever it is will be before the first player runs onto a new home.

[Clintosaurus 7,800]

6 hours ago, Redleg said:

You think we will win the flag next year?

Given a good fixture, good injury run and player development we could.

I think we can. I expect a few of us do.