Training Ground?

[Dr. Gonzo 22,599]

10 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I do get that, but wasn't the whole idea of having our very own home base was so that we could finally be one whole club which would include players and administrator staff being in the one precinct and finally be free of having to share facilities with other sporting codes?

Which other AFL clubs are sharing facilities with other sporting codes?

 

That's true, will be interesting to see what is actually announced.

I think we will have everything under one roof, sharing facilities is the issue but if it doesn't impact our use of those facilities I don't see the problem, it could even work to our advantage sharing IP with others across the codes.

Edited March 9, 2022 by Dr. Gonzo

[Sideshow Bob 2,165]

No issues at all if all the 'Melbourne teams' come together under one giant roof. Dee's Storm Victory Rebels 

 

Makes complete sense as some facilities will only be used in short bursts and can be well and truly shared - think medical/rehab/gym/pool/meeting rooms/chill out zone's... Cross team IP and culture benefits galore.

If it's set up right it could be golden

[640MD 2,977]

If it can be used by a number of clubs in different codes, not Collingwood or Richmond, but other sporting clubs. 
then the political pain or gain is spread over a far wider audience and can be more easily justified. 
rather than to be seen to be favouring a self righteous Liberal voting MCC offshoot. 
whether that last comment is right or wrong is not important. It needs to be seen as equatable within the Labour Party membership.

like living in Warrnabool area.

nothing gets done down here because the area always votes Liberal.

Libs don’t have to do anything 

and Labour gets no benefit if they do

because the area will still vote Libs

go Dees B2B in 22

[Dr. Gonzo 22,599]

11 minutes ago, 640MD said:

If it can be used by a number of clubs in different codes, not Collingwood or Richmond, but other sporting clubs. 
then the political pain or gain is spread over a far wider audience and can be more easily justified. 
rather than to be seen to be favouring a self righteous Liberal voting MCC offshoot. 
whether that last comment is right or wrong is not important. It needs to be seen as equatable within the Labour Party membership.

like living in Warrnabool area.

nothing gets done down here because the area always votes Liberal.

Libs don’t have to do anything 

and Labour gets no benefit if they do

because the area will still vote Libs

go Dees B2B in 22

And Geelong is amongst a few marginal electorates of swinging voters (and regional), hence the multimillion dollar upgrades.

[Lucifers Hero 37,323]

Not ok with sharing facilities to justify the project.  Partly because it wouldn't be easy to sell sponsor 'naming rights' if there was no clear identity with the demons.  Nor would we be able to put up The Home of the Demons type signage without including the other sports.  There is a revenue impact of sharing.

I would prefer we include a cause(s) the club has had a genuine or long association with eg Reach, Breast Cancer, MND (but they have been given space in the Southern Stand) and link up with entities connected to the selected cause.   Then invest resources in that cause.

Edited March 10, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[640MD 2,977]

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

And Geelong is amongst a few marginal electorates of swinging voters (and regional), hence the multimillion dollar upgrades.

Exactly. 

[640MD 2,977]

Very difficult to promote through Labour membership to support blue blood MCC offshoot. I understand we are a diverse group, just read demonland.

but to support something that might or will help a “group” of clubs far easier to gain support and acceptance 

I don’t think Storm or Victory would be seen as blue blood liberal supporters. 
but what di I know. SFA

[DeeSpencer 23,424]

57 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Not ok with sharing facilities to justify the project.  Partly because it wouldn't be easy to sell sponsor 'naming rights' if there was no clear identity with the demons.  Nor would we be able to put up The Home of the Demons type signage without including the other sports.  There is a revenue impact of sharing.

I would prefer we include a cause(s) the club has had a genuine or long association with eg Reach, Breast Cancer, MND (but they have been given space in the Southern Stand) and link up with entities connected to the selected cause.   Then invest resources in that cause.

I’m not sure any of those causes are getting us to 300 million.
 

But there’s also the chance we can build a standalone section in what is somewhat a shared facility. Doesn’t have to be one or the other. 

I’m not sure every team will be included either. We’ll vacate the current stadium facilities and open up room for the teams there. It might be pretty much our facility but we share the gym, pool and indoor training space. 

[rpfc 27,633]

We shared Jolimont with possums.

Storm and Rebels and Victory are fine.

[Demons1858 1,663]

Not happy sharing facilities ... means we may have issies claiming sponsorship $$$ e.g Lexus centre

[daisycutter 28,683]

why don't we all take a deep breath and wait till some details are actually announced

i have faith that roffey will get us a good deal

[WalkingCivilWar 33,285]

49 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

why don't we all take a deep breath and wait till some details are actually announced

i have faith that roffey will get us a good deal

TWO deep breaths. 😉

[Docs Demons 1,673]

16 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

TWO deep breaths. 😉

As long as it's done before my last breath !!

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,533]

17 hours ago, rpfc said:

We shared Jolimont with possums.

Storm and Rebels and Victory are fine.

I thought that was the Junction Oval? Although maybe we shared our facilities with rats there.

[Longsufferingnomore 1,489]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I thought that was the Junction Oval? Although maybe we shared our facilities with rats there.

 

Edited March 11, 2022 by Longsufferingnomore

[Cards13 9,117]

22 hours ago, Sideshow Bob said:

No issues at all if all the 'Melbourne teams' come together under one giant roof. Dee's Storm Victory Rebels 

 

Makes complete sense as some facilities will only be used in short bursts and can be well and truly shared - think medical/rehab/gym/pool/meeting rooms/chill out zone's... Cross team IP and culture benefits galore.

If it's set up right it could be golden

We did that under Schwab and it literally went nowhere, I was trying to find some links to articles about but can’t find any. It was def us, netball and soccer and maybe rugby.

[Wrecker46 2,720]

21 hours ago, 640MD said:

If it can be used by a number of clubs in different codes, not Collingwood or Richmond, but other sporting clubs. 
then the political pain or gain is spread over a far wider audience and can be more easily justified. 
rather than to be seen to be favouring a self righteous Liberal voting MCC offshoot. 
whether that last comment is right or wrong is not important. It needs to be seen as equatable within the Labour Party membership.

like living in Warrnabool area.

nothing gets done down here because the area always votes Liberal.

Libs don’t have to do anything 

and Labour gets no benefit if they do

because the area will still vote Libs

go Dees B2B in 22

I've always wanted to see a chart of house price rises in marginal seats v safe seats.

The marginal seats get preference in infrastructure.

 

 

[Sideshow Bob 2,165]

36 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

We did that under Schwab and it literally went nowhere, I was trying to find some links to articles about but can’t find any. It was def us, netball and soccer and maybe rugby.

Yeah I remember something along those lines as well. 

But then again - we were a an absolute shambles then. And Schwab..... probs dont need to look to hard why nothing would have come from it 

[jnrmac 19,312]

Spoke to a few club people about this. We need to bide our time. Its all happening behind the scenes but the club can't say anything lest they upset one of the 20 or so stakeholders.

Part of the problem is that there are so many fingers in the pie with regard to getting sign off. Melbourne Parks Trust, Olympics Park Trust, the City of melbourne, the State government, the Tennis Centre trust etc etc.

There are 3 separate Ministers that have to sign off any proposal and given its location there are no votes in this at all for the Govt.

We have all heard it before but I am comfortable giant strides have been taken towards a solution.

 

 

 

[Dr. Gonzo 22,599]

26 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

There are 3 separate Ministers that have to sign off any proposal and given its location there are no votes in this at all for the Govt.

No wonder its taken so long! If it doesn't get signed off before the election forget about an announcement this year I'd say. And hopefully no change of government which could reset the whole thing.

[Cards13 9,117]

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Spoke to a few club people about this. We need to bide our time. Its all happening behind the scenes but the club can't say anything lest they upset one of the 20 or so stakeholders.

Part of the problem is that there are so many fingers in the pie with regard to getting sign off. Melbourne Parks Trust, Olympics Park Trust, the City of melbourne, the State government, the Tennis Centre trust etc etc.

There are 3 separate Ministers that have to sign off any proposal and given its location there are no votes in this at all for the Govt.

We have all heard it before but I am comfortable giant strides have been taken towards a solution.

 

 

 

Ssshhhhhh then! 

[old dee 22,981]

On 3/11/2022 at 4:30 PM, jnrmac said:

Spoke to a few club people about this. We need to bide our time. Its all happening behind the scenes but the club can't say anything lest they upset one of the 20 or so stakeholders.

Part of the problem is that there are so many fingers in the pie with regard to getting sign off. Melbourne Parks Trust, Olympics Park Trust, the City of melbourne, the State government, the Tennis Centre trust etc etc.

There are 3 separate Ministers that have to sign off any proposal and given its location there are no votes in this at all for the Govt.

We have all heard it before but I am comfortable giant strides have been taken towards a solution.

 

 

 

I will be in the ground at the speed this is going at jnr. Enjoy it for me. 

[whatwhat say what 19,640]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

I will be in the ground at the speed this is going at jnr. Enjoy it for me. 

you said that about us winning a premiership too, hanrahan

[old dee 22,981]

2 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

you said that about us winning a premiership too, hanrahan

There is no agreed plan at this stage. Let's suppose tomorrow they reveal the holy grail when do you think construction will finish and the grand opening taking place? 

[640MD 2,977]

My opinion, no sauce, not much pie.

will start construction late 2023 be ready to use 4 months before the “empire games” get to Melb  could be used for training for those athletes 

and will in the end be used over the 4 or so teams that train here.

makes political sense and continues the infrastructure program that seems to be in place. Says to everyone. We do things for all victorians  though the rural areas only get tokens, 

but I might be totally wrong

bring on  B2B