There's a lot of other people that should be sacked before Harley

He stuffed up, yes he should be held accountable and punished.

The Cairns debacle will cost the club more than $50k

 

Why didn’t he ask permission if he needed to get a different car, because his dad id sick?

Very difficult position 

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

Why didn’t he ask permission if he needed to get a different car, because his dad id sick?

Very difficult position 

Yeah story isn't making sense at all.

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah story isn't making sense at all.

Yep. There is a lot we are not being told

but if Harley is not answering his phone, his chances of keeping his job diminish

Half the country is unloading their wisdom about Dan Andrews.  All over the western world people are publicly protesting against the rules imposed to stop us infecting and killing each other.  There's a lot of spur-of-the-moment full-head-of-steam stupidity around.  How do we know what it's been feeling like for Harley Bennell?  Lots of people do erratic things.

So he's done similar things before?  Jake Lever has dropped marks before.  We've all posted rubbish at one time or another.  We can hardly say that the person having the capacity or tendency to make the mistake makes it a worse mistake - it's at most just likelier.  Give the guy a break!

MFC is trying to put together a winning team of footballers.  Harley Bennell is a bit not-dead-centre perhaps, but he can play football.  How much damage has he done to anything other than PR?  I cannot get my head around the reasoning, the holier-than-thou shock-horror being expressed.  Football might have saved Liam Jurrah, or any one of the players who subsequently were found to be fighting depression etc.   Thank goodness for football, where some lucky people have gifts that might clear them a pathway through their own demons. 

I hope there is wisdom at the club, and not just cringing from the public commentary, when they weigh this up.

I think he should be sacked. The club can still assist his mental health on the side if need be. Under no circumstances do I want the club to keep him because "they feel sorry for him." He adds very little and the trust is shot to pieces. We move on in an endeavour to become a ruthless club. Thanks but no thanks, seeya.

Must be sacked. it's unfortunate but he's missing the first 4 weeks on suspension anyway. Then, AT BEST, he makes his way into the team around round 8 then he's lost 1/3rd of the season. It's not worth keeping him on.

23 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

Then, AT BEST, he makes his way into the team around round 8

Based on what exactly?

Based on Samantha Jettas instagram, it looks like its all over for Harley?

12 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Based on Samantha Jettas instagram, it looks like its all over for Harley?

I just read that as last day of the hub and they are saying bye to a kid they saw every day for

months. 

Regardless of whether or not he has a contract in 2021, it's a 'given' that both our Club and the AFLPA will be there to support Harley and his family going forward.  He is very fortunate in this regard.

3 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

There's A LOT more context to this whole thing that people here or in the media don't seem to care about. We're in a time where media, social media and forums like this tend to only bother with short and sharp judgments and comments when in reality things are way more complicated. A bunch of family issues, including his Dad's illness, are just part of a bigger picture of what Harley has been dealing with. Not making excuses for his mistake of course, and all the 'hubbed' players are struggling, but people need to try and treat this situation with a bit more patience and compassion IMO.

Great post

3 hours ago, robbiefrom13 said:

Half the country is unloading their wisdom about Dan Andrews.  All over the western world people are publicly protesting against the rules imposed to stop us infecting and killing each other.  There's a lot of spur-of-the-moment full-head-of-steam stupidity around.  How do we know what it's been feeling like for Harley Bennell?  Lots of people do erratic things.

So he's done similar things before?  Jake Lever has dropped marks before.  We've all posted rubbish at one time or another.  We can hardly say that the person having the capacity or tendency to make the mistake makes it a worse mistake - it's at most just likelier.  Give the guy a break!

MFC is trying to put together a winning team of footballers.  Harley Bennell is a bit not-dead-centre perhaps, but he can play football.  How much damage has he done to anything other than PR?  I cannot get my head around the reasoning, the holier-than-thou shock-horror being expressed.  Football might have saved Liam Jurrah, or any one of the players who subsequently were found to be fighting depression etc.   Thank goodness for football, where some lucky people have gifts that might clear them a pathway through their own demons. 

I hope there is wisdom at the club, and not just cringing from the public commentary, when they weigh this up.

Great post. The faux outrage does my head in, especially since we all have struggles going on at the moment. May wisdom prevail

3 hours ago, robbiefrom13 said:

Half the country is unloading their wisdom about Dan Andrews.  All over the western world people are publicly protesting against the rules imposed to stop us infecting and killing each other.  There's a lot of spur-of-the-moment full-head-of-steam stupidity around.  How do we know what it's been feeling like for Harley Bennell?  Lots of people do erratic things.

So he's done similar things before?  Jake Lever has dropped marks before.  We've all posted rubbish at one time or another.  We can hardly say that the person having the capacity or tendency to make the mistake makes it a worse mistake - it's at most just likelier.  Give the guy a break!

MFC is trying to put together a winning team of footballers.  Harley Bennell is a bit not-dead-centre perhaps, but he can play football.  How much damage has he done to anything other than PR?  I cannot get my head around the reasoning, the holier-than-thou shock-horror being expressed.  Football might have saved Liam Jurrah, or any one of the players who subsequently were found to be fighting depression etc.   Thank goodness for football, where some lucky people have gifts that might clear them a pathway through their own demons. 

I hope there is wisdom at the club, and not just cringing from the public commentary, when they weigh this up.

Great post @robbiefrom13. Whilst I'm disappointed that he transgressed, let's wait for all the facts to come out before making judgements.

18 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

If it ends up being Goodwin's, then we should have HB immortalised in bronze outside the MCG

Funny. Much more likely it'll be a fitness coach, or trainer. Goodwin ain't going anywhere.

On 9/20/2020 at 4:32 PM, loges said:

Poor choice by Harley and no doubt will suffer the consequences but a lot on here showing little knowledge on how addictions work and how hard they are to control.

Hope some of our big fellas can track down ‘turns’ and let him/her know it’s not on

Edited September 23, 20204 yr by BW511

2 hours ago, deanox said:

 

Agreed. Pretty pathetic, but hardly surprising.

The internet is full of faceless losers.... just look at Demonland ?

Edited September 23, 20204 yr by george_on_the_outer

20 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Agreed. Pretty pathetic, but hardly surprising.

The internet is full of faceless losers.... just look at Demonland ?

Jaded I am not sure how many social media sites you visit but believe me Demonland is very tame by comparison.

15 minutes ago, Dee Gee said:

I didn’t say that or anything like it, totally misinterpreted the post. But, if you’ve misinterpreted it as a pile on then others might have too so I’ll remove the posts as soon as I figure out how to. 

Top right corner you can edit posts and delete text (though that won't remove it from anyone who has quoted it)

I really hope we don't delist Harley. We need to see what he can do in 2021. I reckon he'd be that player that we need to rise up the ladder. 

1 minute ago, cantstandyasam said:

I really hope we don't delist Harley. We need to see what he can do in 2021. I reckon he'd be that player that we need to rise up the ladder. 

What if he stuffs up next year too

6 minutes ago, cantstandyasam said:

I really hope we don't delist Harley. We need to see what he can do in 2021. I reckon he'd be that player that we need to rise up the ladder. 

If they keep him on I suspect they would delist first then give him another summer trial for a supplemental selection period spot. 

time for him to move on and we forget he was at mfc ,gave nothing but took what he could and [censored] on everyone helping him

Even if the club can forgive this indiscretion (his first with us), he needs to develop some hunger for the ball and contest or he will never be any good again.

24 minutes ago, godees said:

Even if the club can forgive this indiscretion (his first with us), he needs to develop some hunger for the ball and contest or he will never be any good again.

too many indiscretions,doesnt matter where they were ,it just proves he is at fault .Wife ,baby and one the way.Wake up time for him