Can someoneplease inbox me the full article please.

 

10 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Can someoneplease inbox me the full article please.

https://amp.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/melbourne-urged-to-pick-dominant-ruckforward-luke-jackson-with-no3-pick-in-national-draft/news-story/a39be5c0acbf8956611b0328a80efa8a?__twitter_impression=true

written by jay clark but mainly quoting sumich - pm'd ya

11 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

written by jay clark but mainly quoting sumich - pm'd ya

Sumich was his coach, of course hes going to talk him up,.

We arent drafting this kid, its all a ruse to get Freo to pay through the nose for pick 3.

Highlights or main points? 

He’s my preferred target now. 

5 minutes ago, JakovichScissorKick said:

Sumich was his coach, of course hes going to talk him up,.

We arent drafting this kid, its all a ruse to get Freo to pay through the nose for pick 3.

And Sumich seems to have an axe to grind with Freo so he may just be playing nasty so Freo miss out on him or as you say pay up big for pick 3.

Edited November 11, 20196 yr by Lucifer's Hero

Shades of Mick Turner by Sumich here, I just don't see anything overly special about Jackson. And that kicking action really has me worried from a KPF point of view.

Pass.

I'm still scarred by the Hogan exit. I'm not emotionally ready for another tall prodigy from WA!

He doesn't kick so much as hack it. They were the best 3 kicks they could find in his highlight reel. Imagine the bad ones.

Taking a ruckman with a top ten pick would be almost as stupid as taking a midget with a top ten pick. Have a look at where the likes of Nankervis and Lycett, the most recent premiership ruckmen, were taken in the draft, to say nothing of all the decent ruckmen changing clubs for third and fourth round picks in trade week.

The chances of finding a top class ruckman in the draft are miniscule - we have simply have to find two 200 game players with our top ten picks.

On 11/12/2019 at 11:13 AM, poita said:

Taking a ruckman with a top ten pick would be almost as stupid as taking a midget with a top ten pick. Have a look at where the likes of Nankervis and Lycett, the most recent premiership ruckmen, were taken in the draft, to say nothing of all the decent ruckmen changing clubs for third and fourth round picks in trade week.

The chances of finding a top class ruckman in the draft are miniscule - we have simply have to find two 200 game players with our top ten picks.

Who's to say Jackson won't play 200 games plus?

He is a very good player.

 

On 11/12/2019 at 11:13 AM, poita said:

 we have simply have to find two 200 game players with our top ten picks.

We need to find 2 guns.

 

I'm with you Dante, a very good prospect, but not likly to be there for our second pick if he is still on the table at 7 Freo will say thank you very much.

I'm very nervous that we are going to take him with pick 3.

History says taking talls in the top 10 is a 50/50 proposition at best... going with small/medium type players is a much safer bet.

I also think it's better to trade or pick up mature key talls as free agents rather than draft them. 

I'm really hoping we take Young with pick 3 and then if Jackson is there at 8 then go for it.

FYI my brother is mates with Luke Jackson so I'll do my best to get inside gossip....

I assume if we take Jackson at pick 3, Taylor (the professional recruiter as opposed to us keyboard amateurs)  believes that he'll clearly end up being among the 5 best players taken in the 2019 draft after his career is done and dusted.

Isn't the art of recruiting is to identify a player that has what it takes it to be a genuine AFL player down the track, not just pick a kid who dominates against other kids?

That being said, it certainly appears to be a ballsy move if we pick Jackson, and Taylor would seriously need to nail at least one of pick 3 or 8.

 

18 minutes ago, Collar-Jazz-Knee said:

I'm very nervous that we are going to take him with pick 3.

History says taking talls in the top 10 is a 50/50 proposition at best... going with small/medium type players is a much safer bet.

I also think it's better to trade or pick up mature key talls as free agents rather than draft them. 

I'm really hoping we take Young with pick 3 and then if Jackson is there at 8 then go for it.

FYI my brother is mates with Luke Jackson so I'll do my best to get inside gossip....

We'd almost have to win the flag to ever get in the conversation for signing a gun tall as a free agent. They come around so rarely and usually go to the best clubs who have won flags. Lynch - Rich, Buddy - Syd even Frawley to Hawthorn.

Trading for talls, sure, but May and Lever are also about as good as we've ever done there.

Trading for depth rucks is easy, trading for a Grundy style game changing ruck isn't. 

The only reason Jackson is in the conversation for pick 3 is because they think he could be a game changing level of talent. If they really are confident in that assessment then they have to pick him.

Taylor has said on the podcast that he doesn’t see Jackson as a pure ruck, but as a key forward and ruck. He was glowing of his continued improvement post-champs, especially up forward.

He’s certainly a unique talent. Young is a solid, meat and potatoes choice as a high level role player at half back. This is where it’s hard to select ‘best available’. Who is better, the high floor solid half back whose ceiling is known, or the unique but very raw key forward ruck whose base is low but ceiling is much higher? 

I think I hope that we pick Jackson .... just to watch this place burn to the ground on draft night! ?

On 11/11/2019 at 5:36 PM, Demon Disciple said:

Shades of Mick Turner by Sumich here, I just don't see anything overly special about Jackson. And that kicking action really has me worried from a KPF point of view.

Pass.

When you think about it when have Dees ever worried about a recruits disposal?

NOT EVER who????

If we were to pick by disposal skill Young and Stephens would fit our needs both good disposal as part of pptheir highlights !!

On 11/4/2019 at 11:11 AM, Mach5 said:

I’m really warming to the idea of Jackson.

Losing Tim Smith and Frost, we’re down a couple of talls. I know we picked up Tomlinson, but I’ve also written off Pruess.

Just makes sense for list balance. Bradtke will take time, but also looks more likely to end up a forward. Gawn won’t be around forever.

And if not, it’s just another nudge to GWS to give us a proper return for pick 3.

Why write off Pruess ?

Reckon at his age he is just coming into his prime and his tank may well be perfect with 9 or so kg off his frame That's serious stuff and a gamechanger on his already good talent. He was getting tired after his first run in the ruck each quarter so his ability to pace himself for a full game now should be no Problem.

Time will tell but Jackson must have an X factor IMO to be taken st No 3 and his ground ability plus his jumping  might be this I imagine.

Dont think he will get through to 8 now for us.

Could be bluffing of course !!

Jackson will almost be undersized if he went into the ruck (unless he grows significantly), and up forward his kicking would make him a liability at accuracy (like Casboult).

He does a few things ok, but masters none, whilst displaying the dreaded word of potential (another way of saying he hasn’t achieved it yet).

Bring in players with already established qualities.

2 hours ago, Axis of Bob said:

I think I hope that we pick Jackson .... just to watch this place burn to the ground on draft night! ?

Well who could blame them if we blow a top 10 pick on what is a Jack Fitzpatrick clone

Edited November 14, 20196 yr by JakovichScissorKick

Most clubs made a mistake passing on Grundy and letting him slip to 18. But this bloke is no Grundy. 

100% do not take a chance on a tall ruck fwd unless they are a athletic freak and gun 

Jackson is raw but sure has mobility and talent. 

The great Jimmy Stynes started from scratch. 

Just now, DubDee said:

Most clubs made a mistake passing on Grundy and letting him slip to 18. But this bloke is no Grundy. 

100% do not take a chance on a tall ruck fwd unless they are a athletic freak and gun 

Which Jackson is exactly. So you're already wrong.

You've already made a stupid statement not long ago questioning Harley Bennell mental state on the back of no evidence.

I'll back our recruitment team any day over some random who clearly has no idea.

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Which Jackson is exactly. So you're already wrong.

You've already made a stupid statement not long ago questioning Harley Bennell mental state on the back of no evidence.

I'll back our recruitment team any day over some random who clearly has no idea.

Always a pleasure dazzle

The way Jackson is supposedly rocketing up the so called draft boards, here’s hoping GCS take him with pick 2!