Jump to content

Compensation for Loss of NT Academy Zone

The Great Pretender
The Great Pretender
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

Posted

I hear that the Gold Coast Suns have now been awarded Darwin as part of its Academy Zone which is fair enough. I was never a fan of losing a home game, having to go up there and then inevitably losing the week after as well. 

But does the MFC get another area by way of compensation for the loss of this zone or have we been done over in yet another AFL rort?

  • Quote
    • Like 3
    • Shocked 1
     
    3 minutes ago, The Great Pretender said:

    I hear that the Gold Coast Suns have now been awarded Darwin as part of its Academy Zone which is fair enough. I was never a fan of losing a home game, having to go up there and then inevitably losing the week after as well. 

    But does the MFC get another area by way of compensation for the loss of this zone or have we been done over in yet another AFL rort?

    Compensations? Don’t be crazy. You’re forgetting our place in this world.  This is the dees we’re taking about not the hawks or the pies. 

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    • Sad 1

    We never had Darwin as a zone, it was always seen as too good at developing players to be a zone...except as a sweet gift for the Gold Coast Banana Splits.

    Our Zone is Alice Springs, I think.  Home zone of Liam Jurrah.  Can’t think of another player developed out of there???

  • Quote
    • Like 4
     
    23 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

    We never had Darwin as a zone, it was always seen as too good at developing players to be a zone...except as a sweet gift for the Gold Coast Banana Splits.

    Our Zone is Alice Springs, I think.  Home zone of Liam Jurrah.  Can’t think of another player developed out of there???

    I don’t think that’s right. Here’s an article from the NTAFL site which identifies Andy Moniz-Wakefield who plays for Darwin's Nightcliff club as being a "Melbourne - Darwin Region Multicultural Selection" and two other NT players Tyrell Martin and Ariki Lowe as AFL Next Generation Academy players.

    UNDER 16 THUNDER BEGIN NATIONAL CAMPAIGN

    This suggests that the club has put work into young talented players in its (now former) Academy zone. If the AFL has awarded this area to Gold Coast, it is reasonable to ask what happens to the players who were already part of our Academy and what compensation is Melbourne going to receive for the loss of this zone which has produced several AFL champions - the Riolis, Michael Long etc.?

  • Quote
    • Like 7
    1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    I don’t think that’s right. Here’s an article from the NTAFL site which identifies Andy Moniz-Wakefield who plays for Darwin's Nightcliff club as being a "Melbourne - Darwin Region Multicultural Selection" and two other NT players Tyrell Martin and Ariki Lowe as AFL Next Generation Academy players.

    UNDER 16 THUNDER BEGIN NATIONAL CAMPAIGN

    This suggests that the club has put work into young talented players in its (now former) Academy zone. If the AFL has awarded this area to Gold Coast, it is reasonable to ask what happens to the players who were already part of our Academy and what compensation is Melbourne going to receive for the loss of this zone which has produced several AFL champions - the Riolis, Michael Long etc.?

    So we lose these players now?

  • Quote
    • Sad 1

    My understanding is that Darwin was never our zone. We have Central Aust/Alice Springs 

  • Quote
    • Like 3
    • Author
    36 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    My understanding is that Darwin was never our zone. We have Central Aust/Alice Springs 

    Suggest you read WJ’s post #4 above together with the NTAFL website he quoted. This shows that we definitely had the Darwin zone.

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    I don’t think that’s right. Here’s an article from the NTAFL site which identifies Andy Moniz-Wakefield who plays for Darwin's Nightcliff club as being a "Melbourne - Darwin Region Multicultural Selection" and two other NT players Tyrell Martin and Ariki Lowe as AFL Next Generation Academy players.

    UNDER 16 THUNDER BEGIN NATIONAL CAMPAIGN

    This suggests that the club has put work into young talented players in its (now former) Academy zone. If the AFL has awarded this area to Gold Coast, it is reasonable to ask what happens to the players who were already part of our Academy and what compensation is Melbourne going to receive for the loss of this zone which has produced several AFL champions - the Riolis, Michael Long etc.?

    Good questions.

    Do we still have rights over the players we have developed?

    Next, what compensation do we get for losing the zone?

    Wonder if we could tell Jack Martin that we want to bring in several indigenous boys and that he and Nev would be great mentors for them.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
     

    The NGA's have 2 parts: Indigenous and Multicultural.

    Indigenous talent was previously not assigned in Darwin. Multicultural talent in Darwin was split between the 5 teams with zones in other parts of NT. 

    I'm not sure if that multicultural split still remains with the clubs and how it works if players are both Indigenous and Multicultural.

    What a farce.

     

    darwin.png

  • Quote
    • Like 6

    The AFL is likely to give melbourne a major boost by giving them to right to recruit from all the area between Victoria and Tasmania. A massive greatly undeveloped area. 

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    • Haha 11
    • Sad 1

    27 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    darwin has never previously been zoned

    this is just a 3-year* gift to gc17

    *let's see that 3-years be lobbied to be permanent

    And the AFL will tick it off, because we all know how close Darwin is to GC ?

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    48 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

    And the AFL will tick it off, because we all know how close Darwin is to GC ?

    just one short flight away*

    *if you drive to brisbane or alternatively fly from coolongatta to brisbane and then catch a connecting flight

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    3 hours ago, Deecisive said:

    The AFL is likely to give melbourne a major boost by giving them to right to recruit from all the area between Victoria and Tasmania. A massive greatly undeveloped area. 

    Go you King Islanders !!!

  • Quote
    • Like 2

    6 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

    This should be a question brought up in the AGM.

     

    7 hours ago, Deecisive said:

    The AFL is likely to give melbourne a major boost by giving them to right to recruit from all the area between Victoria and Tasmania. A massive greatly undeveloped area. 

    ??????

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    9 hours ago, Deecisive said:

    The AFL is likely to give melbourne a major boost by giving them to right to recruit from all the area between Victoria and Tasmania. A massive greatly undeveloped area. 

    Hope that includes French Island...

  • Quote

    Have we ever had a player from one of our academy's?  It seem's Sydney, West Coast and Freo seem to get great players out of theirs?  

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    52 minutes ago, Darkhorse72 said:

    Have we ever had a player from one of our academy's?  It seem's Sydney, West Coast and Freo seem to get great players out of theirs?  

    Toby Bedford. We have a couple of small forwards coming through next year as part of our NGA as well.

  • Quote

    26 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

    Toby Bedford. We have a couple of small forwards coming through next year as part of our NGA as well.

    which to me is an indication - along with already having bedford, chandler, anb, and others on our list - that all the talk we might be going for weightman with pick 8 might be just that; talk

  • Quote

    How is "Multicultural" defined? i.e Family history goes back 5 generations in Australia including Irish/English/Welsh so does that count?

     

  • Quote
    10 hours ago, Darkhorse72 said:

    Have we ever had a player from one of our academy's?  It seem's Sydney, West Coast and Freo seem to get great players out of theirs?  

    Massive difference, Sydney/GWS/Brisbane/Gold Coast have full access to any kid in their zone no matter where they come from.  All other clubs are restricted to Indigenous and kids with one parent born overseas(multi-Cultured), WA in relation to other states have much higher participation of Indigenous kids in AFL football they will always have 1-2 each each from their NGA.

     

  • Quote
    •  
    9 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    which to me is an indication - along with already having bedford, chandler, anb, and others on our list - that all the talk we might be going for weightman with pick 8 might be just that; talk

    Weightman isn't worth pick 8 we can do better

  • Quote

    • Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • REPORT: Geelong

      I was disappointed to hear Goody say at his post match presser after the team’s 39 point defeat against Geelong that "we're getting high quality entry, just poor execution" because Melbourne’s problems extend far beyond that after its 0 - 4 start to the 2025 football season. There are clearly problems with poor execution, some of which were evident well before the current season and were in play when the Demons met the Cats in early May last year and beat them in a near top-of-the-table clash that saw both sides sitting comfortably in the top four after round eight. Since that game, the Demons’ performances have been positively Third World with only five wins in 19 games with a no longer majestic midfield and a dysfunctional forward line that has become too easy for opposing coaches to counter. This is an area of their game that is currently being played out as if they were all completely panic-stricken.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Essendon

      Facing the very real and daunting prospect of starting the season with five straight losses, the Demons head to South Australia for the annual Gather Round, where they’ll take on the Bombers in search of their first win of the year. Who comes in, and who comes out?

        • Clap
        • Haha
        • Like
      • 147 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • NON-MFC: Round 04

      Round 4 kicks off with a blockbuster on Thursday night as traditional rivals Collingwood and Carlton clash at the MCG, with the Magpies looking to assert themselves as early-season contenders and the Blues seeking their first win of the season. Saturday opens with Gold Coast hosting Adelaide, a key test for the Suns as they aim to back up their big win last week, while the Crows will be looking to keep their perfect record intact. Reigning wooden spooners Richmond have the daunting task of facing reigning premiers Brisbane at the ‘G and the Lions will be eager to reaffirm their premiership credentials after a patchy start. Saturday night sees North Melbourne take on Sydney at Marvel Stadium, with the Swans looking to build on their first win of the season last week against a rebuilding Roos outfit. Sunday’s action begins with GWS hosting West Coast at ENGIE Stadium, a game that could get ugly very early for the visitors. Port Adelaide vs St Kilda at Adelaide Oval looms as a interesting clash, with both clubs form being very hard to read. The round wraps up with Fremantle taking on the Western Bulldogs at Optus Stadium in what could be a fierce contest between two sides with top-eight ambitions. Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons besides us winning?

      • 270 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: Geelong

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 7th April @ the all new time of 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect another Demons loss at Kardinia Park to the Cats in the Round 04. Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

        • Like
      • 34 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • VOTES: Geelong

      Captain Max Gawn leads the Demonland Player of the Year in his quest to take out his 3rd trophy. He leads Christian Petracca and Clayton Oliver who are in equal 2nd place followed by Kade Chandler and Jake Bowey. You votes please. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1.

        • Like
      • 28 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • POSTGAME: Geelong

      The Demons have slumped to their worst start to a season since 2012, falling to 0–4 after a more spirited showing against the Cats at Kardinia Park. Despite the improved effort, they went down by 39 points, and the road ahead is looking increasingly grim.

        • Like
      • 313 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland
    View All