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Compensation for Loss of NT Academy Zone

The Great Pretender
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I hear that the Gold Coast Suns have now been awarded Darwin as part of its Academy Zone which is fair enough. I was never a fan of losing a home game, having to go up there and then inevitably losing the week after as well. 

But does the MFC get another area by way of compensation for the loss of this zone or have we been done over in yet another AFL rort?

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    3 minutes ago, The Great Pretender said:

    I hear that the Gold Coast Suns have now been awarded Darwin as part of its Academy Zone which is fair enough. I was never a fan of losing a home game, having to go up there and then inevitably losing the week after as well. 

    But does the MFC get another area by way of compensation for the loss of this zone or have we been done over in yet another AFL rort?

    Compensations? Don’t be crazy. You’re forgetting our place in this world.  This is the dees we’re taking about not the hawks or the pies. 

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    We never had Darwin as a zone, it was always seen as too good at developing players to be a zone...except as a sweet gift for the Gold Coast Banana Splits.

    Our Zone is Alice Springs, I think.  Home zone of Liam Jurrah.  Can’t think of another player developed out of there???

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    23 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

    We never had Darwin as a zone, it was always seen as too good at developing players to be a zone...except as a sweet gift for the Gold Coast Banana Splits.

    Our Zone is Alice Springs, I think.  Home zone of Liam Jurrah.  Can’t think of another player developed out of there???

    I don’t think that’s right. Here’s an article from the NTAFL site which identifies Andy Moniz-Wakefield who plays for Darwin's Nightcliff club as being a "Melbourne - Darwin Region Multicultural Selection" and two other NT players Tyrell Martin and Ariki Lowe as AFL Next Generation Academy players.

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    This suggests that the club has put work into young talented players in its (now former) Academy zone. If the AFL has awarded this area to Gold Coast, it is reasonable to ask what happens to the players who were already part of our Academy and what compensation is Melbourne going to receive for the loss of this zone which has produced several AFL champions - the Riolis, Michael Long etc.?

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    1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    I don’t think that’s right. Here’s an article from the NTAFL site which identifies Andy Moniz-Wakefield who plays for Darwin's Nightcliff club as being a "Melbourne - Darwin Region Multicultural Selection" and two other NT players Tyrell Martin and Ariki Lowe as AFL Next Generation Academy players.

    UNDER 16 THUNDER BEGIN NATIONAL CAMPAIGN

    This suggests that the club has put work into young talented players in its (now former) Academy zone. If the AFL has awarded this area to Gold Coast, it is reasonable to ask what happens to the players who were already part of our Academy and what compensation is Melbourne going to receive for the loss of this zone which has produced several AFL champions - the Riolis, Michael Long etc.?

    So we lose these players now?

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    My understanding is that Darwin was never our zone. We have Central Aust/Alice Springs 

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    36 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    My understanding is that Darwin was never our zone. We have Central Aust/Alice Springs 

    Suggest you read WJ’s post #4 above together with the NTAFL website he quoted. This shows that we definitely had the Darwin zone.

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    2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    I don’t think that’s right. Here’s an article from the NTAFL site which identifies Andy Moniz-Wakefield who plays for Darwin's Nightcliff club as being a "Melbourne - Darwin Region Multicultural Selection" and two other NT players Tyrell Martin and Ariki Lowe as AFL Next Generation Academy players.

    UNDER 16 THUNDER BEGIN NATIONAL CAMPAIGN

    This suggests that the club has put work into young talented players in its (now former) Academy zone. If the AFL has awarded this area to Gold Coast, it is reasonable to ask what happens to the players who were already part of our Academy and what compensation is Melbourne going to receive for the loss of this zone which has produced several AFL champions - the Riolis, Michael Long etc.?

    Good questions.

    Do we still have rights over the players we have developed?

    Next, what compensation do we get for losing the zone?

    Wonder if we could tell Jack Martin that we want to bring in several indigenous boys and that he and Nev would be great mentors for them.

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    The NGA's have 2 parts: Indigenous and Multicultural.

    Indigenous talent was previously not assigned in Darwin. Multicultural talent in Darwin was split between the 5 teams with zones in other parts of NT. 

    I'm not sure if that multicultural split still remains with the clubs and how it works if players are both Indigenous and Multicultural.

    What a farce.

     

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    The AFL is likely to give melbourne a major boost by giving them to right to recruit from all the area between Victoria and Tasmania. A massive greatly undeveloped area. 

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    27 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    darwin has never previously been zoned

    this is just a 3-year* gift to gc17

    *let's see that 3-years be lobbied to be permanent

    And the AFL will tick it off, because we all know how close Darwin is to GC ?

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    48 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

    And the AFL will tick it off, because we all know how close Darwin is to GC ?

    just one short flight away*

    *if you drive to brisbane or alternatively fly from coolongatta to brisbane and then catch a connecting flight

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    3 hours ago, Deecisive said:

    The AFL is likely to give melbourne a major boost by giving them to right to recruit from all the area between Victoria and Tasmania. A massive greatly undeveloped area. 

    Go you King Islanders !!!

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    6 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

    This should be a question brought up in the AGM.

     

    7 hours ago, Deecisive said:

    The AFL is likely to give melbourne a major boost by giving them to right to recruit from all the area between Victoria and Tasmania. A massive greatly undeveloped area. 

    ??????

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    9 hours ago, Deecisive said:

    The AFL is likely to give melbourne a major boost by giving them to right to recruit from all the area between Victoria and Tasmania. A massive greatly undeveloped area. 

    Hope that includes French Island...

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    Have we ever had a player from one of our academy's?  It seem's Sydney, West Coast and Freo seem to get great players out of theirs?  

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    52 minutes ago, Darkhorse72 said:

    Have we ever had a player from one of our academy's?  It seem's Sydney, West Coast and Freo seem to get great players out of theirs?  

    Toby Bedford. We have a couple of small forwards coming through next year as part of our NGA as well.

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    26 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

    Toby Bedford. We have a couple of small forwards coming through next year as part of our NGA as well.

    which to me is an indication - along with already having bedford, chandler, anb, and others on our list - that all the talk we might be going for weightman with pick 8 might be just that; talk

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    How is "Multicultural" defined? i.e Family history goes back 5 generations in Australia including Irish/English/Welsh so does that count?

     

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    10 hours ago, Darkhorse72 said:

    Have we ever had a player from one of our academy's?  It seem's Sydney, West Coast and Freo seem to get great players out of theirs?  

    Massive difference, Sydney/GWS/Brisbane/Gold Coast have full access to any kid in their zone no matter where they come from.  All other clubs are restricted to Indigenous and kids with one parent born overseas(multi-Cultured), WA in relation to other states have much higher participation of Indigenous kids in AFL football they will always have 1-2 each each from their NGA.

     

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    9 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    which to me is an indication - along with already having bedford, chandler, anb, and others on our list - that all the talk we might be going for weightman with pick 8 might be just that; talk

    Weightman isn't worth pick 8 we can do better

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