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Give sam Murray a go. Nothing to lose. 

Also would like to see what small forward we could get but based on JM trade radio we aren’t looking at one cause the forward line was good in 2018 and they HOPE it will work again in 2020. That’s scary. 

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    Gut feel is we've got one more move in us, and it'll probably be a pick swap with pick 3 

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    1 minute ago, DemonOX said:

    Give sam Murray a go. Nothing to lose. 

    Also would like to see what small forward we could get but based on JM trade radio we aren’t looking at one cause the forward line was good in 2018 and they HOPE it will work again in 2020. That’s scary. 

    would you trade for Murray (pick 96 or whatever exchanged for pick 102) or wait for the PSD? Cannot see the difference but perhaps there is some reason.

    Agree on the small forward but I suspect his comment was reflective of there being no one available. Sounds a little silly though given we were after Elliot. Ah.. the world of spin.

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    There is still plenty of time left to get involved in a few deals.  There is also plenty of time left for something to crop up out of left field - teams scrambling to fit under the salary cap or looking to improve their hand at the draft.  We can sit and wait for a good deal to arise... or go to the draft with what we have.  It's a win/win.

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    Just now, Demonland said:

    I must have heard another interview then. Sounded like we were. 

    Didn't sound like either, it was the one question Kane and Terry didn't ask!

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    1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    5 spots available:  4 Out: Garlett, Maynard, Lewis, Frost plus 1 unused list spot from 2019.

    2 spots taken:  Tomlinson, Langdon.

    3 spots available for draftees or more recruits.

    Stretch and JKH OOC and still unsigned so potential for more list spots.

    Will shortly update the Contracts thread pinned to front page of this forum.

    If anyone has the length of Langdon's contract please let me know.

    5 years for Langdon

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    1 hour ago, DemonOX said:

    Give sam Murray a go. Nothing to lose. 

    Also would like to see what small forward we could get but based on JM trade radio we aren’t looking at one cause the forward line was good in 2018 and they HOPE it will work again in 2020. That’s scary. 

    I heard that while i was riding my bike almost fell off when talking about the forward line.

    Going by JM we are done, unless they are contemplating still splitting pick 3.

    Edited by Win4theAges

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    2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    would you trade for Murray (pick 96 or whatever exchanged for pick 102) or wait for the PSD? Cannot see the difference but perhaps there is some reason.

    Agree on the small forward but I suspect his comment was reflective of there being no one available. Sounds a little silly though given we were after Elliot. Ah.. the world of spin.

    I would definitely trade for Murray but he has been delisted so I don’t think there is any need to trade. 

    Spin along with lies is the biggest thing during trade. 

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    1 hour ago, Win4theAges said:

    I heard that while i was riding my bike almost fell off when talking about the forward line.

    Going by JM we are done, unless they are contemplating still splitting pick 3.

    You would hope we are still looking for a small forward but we r Melbourne so most likely not. 

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    3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

    5 spots available:  4 Out: Garlett, Maynard, Lewis, Frost plus 1 unused list spot from 2019.

    2 spots taken:  Tomlinson, Langdon.

    3 spots available for draftees or more recruits.

    Stretch and JKH OOC and still unsigned so potential for more list spots.

    Will shortly update the Contracts thread pinned to front page of this forum.

    If anyone has the length of Langdon's contract please let me know.

    What about rookie spots? Aren't they all included in the same list now? (Can't remember what the exact changes were)

    Smith and Walker gone as far as rookies go.

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    4 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

    I would definitely trade for Murray but he has been delisted so I don’t think there is any need to trade. 

    Spin along with lies is the biggest thing during trade. 

    understand but if you do a no lose trade then you keep your options open for the other delists whom we don't know about.

    Is he actually "delisted" as at today? I assume he has just been informed that no contract will be offered as formally his contract runs for a few weeks yet.

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    I like the way we have performed in this trade period. The recruiters have obviously done their ground work on both Tomlinson and Langdon over the past 12/18 months and they got the trades done with a minimum of fuss. I think these two have improved our list despite the loss of Frost. 

    No idea if we will move on any other players this trade period but I could see that once the dust has settled and the draft starts, if we still have pick 3, we might trade that at the beginning of the draft if there is a deal to do with a club that has a couple of later first round picks. 

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    33 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    What about rookie spots? Aren't they all included in the same list now? (Can't remember what the exact changes were)

    Smith and Walker gone as far as rookies go.

    Smith and Kielty delisted, Walker (cat B) retired.

    Rookie A list: Lockhart, Dunkley, C Wagner, Chandler
    Rookie B: Bradtke

    So if Stretch and JKH go we've then got 5 spots and can use them in any combination of 3 main, 2 rookies or 4/1 or 5/0. 

    My guess is we'd take 4 draft picks and then have someone prelisted (Murray) similar to Corey Wagner or train on for the last rookie spot.

    I'd imagine we look for another Cat B player as well depending on club finances and who's available. I like the idea of adding an Irishman.

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    1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Smith and Kielty delisted, Walker (cat B) retired.

    Rookie A list: Lockhart, Dunkley, C Wagner, Chandler
    Rookie B: Bradtke

    So if Stretch and JKH go we've then got 5 spots and can use them in any combination of 3 main, 2 rookies or 4/1 or 5/0. 

    My guess is we'd take 4 draft picks and then have someone prelisted (Murray) similar to Corey Wagner or train on for the last rookie spot.

    Thanks mate! Great info.

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    Think we are still keen on it. In Mahoneys trade radio interview he mentioned it was important we maintained our draft position, both this year and next, as part of todays trades to set up for the remaining period of the trade period.

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    Richmond are giving away Dan Butler for a late pick. Carton & Saints in the running. Carlton have now pulled out because of the Papley trade. With Garlett delisted why not go for Butler until we have other small forward options available.

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    I'd still go Bennell for a late pick. 

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    25 minutes ago, Theo said:

    Richmond are giving away Dan Butler for a late pick. Carton & Saints in the running. Carlton have now pulled out because of the Papley trade. With Garlett delisted why not go for Butler until we have other small forward options available.

    Why not? he'll cost nothing, show some sack Dees. ?

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    5 hours ago, HardBallGet said:

    My understanding is If we take the minimum 3 from the draft we have no senior list spots available. Therefore if we want to get anyone else in or take an extra draftee, we will have to trade or de-list either Stretch or JKH who are currently out of contract.

    I honestly thought we’d already delisted JKH, the club could seriously not see anything in him beyond the season just gone. 

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    5 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    understand but if you do a no lose trade then you keep your options open for the other delists whom we don't know about.

    Is he actually "delisted" as at today? I assume he has just been informed that no contract will be offered as formally his contract runs for a few weeks yet.

    Article says he is delisted. 

    https://www.sen.com.au/news/2019/10/08/sam-murray-desperate-to-continue-afl-career-after-pies-axing

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    I wonder if we threw Stretch and pick three at GC for a player and a later first round pick, who would we be able to get?  I know there were rumours around Stretch going there.  A drop from third to fifteenth should warrant a pretty good player.  Maybe convince Martin that his future is with us? 

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    Happy to offer Murray a rookie spot. See if he really want to work hard and earn his career back. 

    Weve already had a great trade period. Tomlinson and Langdon fir frost and late picks. Addressed our needs. 

    And we have pick 3 to hopefully get a gun

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    Hoping for one more snag, maybe Yokozuna’s mail comes to fruition about an exciting forward prospect. 

    Interestingly, a few player managers were interviewed on radio leading up to trade week and they predicted this trade period could see a record number of players switching clubs. Unless they extend it until March can’t see this happening so far. 

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