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Been discussed a few times in pick split thread and a few other threads the past month or so.

My opinion was I wouldn’t bother. He doesn’t fill any needs for us and hasn’t been able to establish himself in any position. His best work is as an inside midfielder or a marking half forward. Doesn’t have great pace. Doesn’t have great skills. Not great offensively. Not great defensively. Statistically is ranked poor by AFL statistical averages. Can’t nail down a position yet. His best attribute is he’s larger than average for an onballer, but if you’re no good then that doesn’t matter.

On what we’ve seen from him the last few years, he looks like a bust for a first round draftee. I wouldn’t trade anything more than aN early third rounder for him. Definitely wouldn’t include him in a pick split. He’ll have a career similar to Ellis-Yolmen IMO. Very similar player, but not as many issues with injury.

Avoid unless cheap.

 
12 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Been discussed a few times in pick split thread and a few other threads the past month or so.

My opinion was I wouldn’t bother. He doesn’t fill any needs for us and hasn’t been able to establish himself in any position. His best work is as an inside midfielder or a marking half forward. Doesn’t have great pace. Doesn’t have great skills. Not great offensively. Not great defensively. Statistically is ranked poor by AFL statistical averages. Can’t nail down a position yet. His best attribute is he’s larger than average for an onballer, but if you’re no good then that doesn’t matter.

On what we’ve seen from him the last few years, he looks like a bust for a first round draftee. I wouldn’t trade anything more than aN early third rounder for him. Definitely wouldn’t include him in a pick split. He’ll have a career similar to Ellis-Yolmen IMO. Very similar player, but not as many issues with injury.

Avoid unless cheap.

So how are you basing your opinion considering the guy hasn't played afl football the last 2 years. Unless you live in sydney and have seen in play at the reserves level?  I'm guessing you're saying stuff based on nothing. 

27 minutes ago, Dr.D said:

So how are you basing your opinion considering the guy hasn't played afl football the last 2 years. Unless you live in sydney and have seen in play at the reserves level?  I'm guessing you're saying stuff based on nothing. 

Based on his 6 AFL games and his NEAFL reports and stats. He’s averaging 19 disposals and 0.6 goals in NEAFL playing midfield and half forward. He’s rarely in the best either at NEAFL level. He handballs more than he kicks, and from watching him it’s because he’s not able to make space and just transfers the pressure to his teammates. At underage level his size meant he could push off opponents and run off stoppages. At NEAFL and AFL level his size isn’t a weapon and he’s got no other tricks. His other first round team mates such as Hately, Langdon and Caldwell are all performing much better at both NEAFL level and AFL level when playing. He’s a whipping boy on GWS forums. He’s basically the worst of their midfield depth and the worst of their first rounders. Both the eye test and numbers verify this. 

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And I believe the answer would be that all his fellow first round draftee teammates have higher ceilings and are already performing better. Hateley, Caldwell and Langdon all performed better In the NEAFL despite being younger and far less developed physically, and they all played AFL this year. They’ll add Green as another first round midfielder this draft. That puts him at least 5th down the midfield depth pecking order, and that’s just first round mids in the past two drafts. He’s a ways off.

I’d be disappointed if we chased him hard or gave up much for him. Looks a bust at this stage.

Believe GWS would let him go for a pick around 30, which was repeated on trade radio this afternoon. Obviously not rated too highly if they’re happy to let a 20 year old pick 11 who’s had no real injury problems go for a pick around 30.

 

Does not fit our needs or lineup at all. 

I would be extremely disappointed if we are chasing him.


Not the type we need.  Slowish mid.

We won't be getting too excited about this prospect.

I don't think we should get a Bonar, although he would inject some hardness into our list.

Certainly has been underwhelming but he did miss 2 years of footy before the draft, showed a bit last year and then this year might've been second year blues.

Sometimes you have to take a chance on upside. What would I pay for that chance? No more than a 3rd rounder, that's for sure, but by pick 40+ what are you getting?

He has size, a burst of speed around the contest and good tackling. I wouldn't be too upset if we got him for a cheap price and treated him like a 3rd year developing player rather than a pick 11 meant to improve the best 22.

Would it help the list balance - no. But could it be a very smart pick up - maybe. 

Two knee recos....Sheeiit no!!!


5 hours ago, Deeminion said:

I'd do it just for the headline, "Dees Receive Giant Bonar".

I'll see myself out.

It was so obvious but still so funny 

On 10/9/2019 at 9:26 PM, DeeSpencer said:

Certainly has been underwhelming but he did miss 2 years of footy before the draft, showed a bit last year and then this year might've been second year blues.

Sometimes you have to take a chance on upside. What would I pay for that chance? No more than a 3rd rounder, that's for sure, but by pick 40+ what are you getting?

He has size, a burst of speed around the contest and good tackling. I wouldn't be too upset if we got him for a cheap price and treated him like a 3rd year developing player rather than a pick 11 meant to improve the best 22.

Would it help the list balance - no. But could it be a very smart pick up - maybe. 

So that’s a definite maybe from you Dee?

On 10/9/2019 at 5:09 PM, Lord Travis said:

Believe GWS would let him go for a pick around 30, which was repeated on trade radio this afternoon. Obviously not rated too highly if they’re happy to let a 20 year old pick 11 who’s had no real injury problems go for a pick around 30.

No real injury problems.... do two knee recos count?


3 hours ago, Mach5 said:

A young man in demand = good news for us.

GWS working to make it work.

We're interested in Bonar?

3 minutes ago, A F said:

We're interested in Bonar?

I’d wager we’re interested in whatever returned GWS can get for Bonar.

 
On 10/11/2019 at 2:07 PM, Deeminion said:

I'd do it just for the headline, "Dees Receive Giant Bonar".

I'll see myself out.

Likely to inject some hardness

4 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Likely to inject some hardness

Reckon he might stiffen up the backline, Stretch?


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