Farewell Sam Frost

[TGR 1,367]

2 hours ago, Garbo said:

That’s just talk to get his price up

If I am Frost, I am asking for a big pay-rise seeing that Toothpicks Lever and Maysie are soaking up in excess of 1.6mil.

Lever 850k that cost 2 first rounders?  What a joke.

Gold Coast will be laughing at us soon.

 

 

 

[binman 43,762]

44 minutes ago, A F said:

Frost definitely improved this year and was certainly top 10, maybe even top 5, but we finished 17th. Anyone saying they'd be shattered or what have you, if he left, has completely lost touch with reality.

He still gives up almost as many goals as he saves.

If Sam wants a better offer and we can get a more solid best 22 player in, pull the trigger.

My take exactly. 

His turovers are too damaging. They would not be such an issue if lever  hibberd and hore were not also turnover merchants (albeit not in frosty's league). But they are.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

5 hours ago, Salems Lot said:

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2019-05-17/rd-9-speedy-eagle-caught-by-frost

 

I wish someone would post the 'out on the full' kick he made after this tackle. 

It's a much more accurate representation of what he offers the team. 

[GCDee 3,199]

Can't keep them all sometimes... If he goes he goes, sure he has x factor and has improved however I think we have seen the best of frost which is a relatively inconsistent player which does 3 or 4 nice things a game but 3 or 4 wtf moments. 

[Adam The God 30,407]

15 minutes ago, binman said:

My take exactly. 

His turovers are too damaging. They would not be such an issue if lever  hibberd and hore were not also turnover merchants (albeit not in frosty's league). But they are.

Lever is usually a very reliable kick. Maybe not so much this year, but as a rule... otherwise, I obviously concur mate.

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

His 2 or 3 great moments are always overshadowed by his brain farts At crucial stages of the game. Ultimately, he is a liability 

Edited September 10, 2019 by Leoncelli_36

[buck_nekkid 6,046]

All this teeth gnashing over Frosty.  I would wish him well if he goes, and take the second rounder or player, use the cap space for someone that improves us, and smile and wave.

i can remember so many gameday threads, Joeboy three worders and post match discussions where dl posters were pulling their hair out over this guy.  He tours Hawthorn and all of a sudden he is Jesus Christ with a turbo.  Loss aversion bias at work. Lets see what we get, and hopefully it is fair for all.

[Gouga 570]

Why would Frost need to tour Hawthorn's facilities? Wouldn't they just say "we have them and your club doesn't".   

Edited September 10, 2019 by Gouga
Typo

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,708]

I will be absolutely devastated if Frosty leaves, must be a reason why the club have let his contract run down($$$$$).

I can imagine his contract was in the lower scale and wasn't a priority going forward, unbelievable really, he's was our best defender this year.

Edited September 10, 2019 by Win4theAges

[Demon Disciple 12,274]

15 minutes ago, Gouga said:

Why would Frost need to tour Hawthorn's facilities? Wouldn't they just say "we have them and your club doesn't".   

Maybe they were showing him the plans for their Dingley base?

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

It will be yet another disappointing facet to this season if Frost now leaves the club.

He single-handedly won us one match this year, and generally provided some much needed spark to the team throughout the year.

A much improved player with apparent upside as he becomes more experienced.

 

Edited September 10, 2019 by Ron Burgundy

[Demon Disciple 12,274]

29 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

His 2 or 3 great moments are always overshadowed by his brain farts At crucial stages of the game. Ultimately, he is a liability 

Totally agree Cell. Whilst his runs were entertaining and 'Frostball' edge-of-you-seat stuff, few of them actually resulted in goals (though the blame cannot be placed only on him because of this), however his turnovers at numerous times directly did result in goals against us.

I figure the club believes should Frosty leave (and we bring worthy replacements), as a team we'd end up conceding fewer goals.

[TGR 1,367]

Goodwin, Taylor and Bartlett should tour Waverley.  I’ll pay for their Uber.

 

Goody has troubles differentiating carp from ‘the good stuff’.

 

Ross Lyon 2021

pTGR

[Demon Disciple 12,274]

11 minutes ago, TGR said:

Goody has troubles differentiating carp from ‘the good stuff’.

He probably figures that it's all fish, why pay for bluefin tuna when you can eat carp and save some $'s?

He probably favours porterhouse steak over ribeye too.

Edited September 10, 2019 by Demon Disciple

[dworship 3,342]

1 hour ago, A F said:

Frost definitely improved this year and was certainly top 10, maybe even top 5, but we finished 17th. Anyone saying they'd be shattered or what have you, if he left, has completely lost touch with reality.

He still gives up almost as many goals as he saves.

If Sam wants a better offer and we can get a more solid best 22 player in, pull the trigger.

Here is a challenge for you, please go back through the footage for the season and actually tally the fores and against. You might then be able to substantiate your assertions. 

[Demon Disciple 12,274]

1 minute ago, dworship said:

Here is a challenge for you, please go back through the footage for the season and actually tally the fores and against. You might then be able to substantiate your assertions. 

And re-watch this wretched season.....................pass.

[Adam The God 30,407]

16 minutes ago, dworship said:

Here is a challenge for you, please go back through the footage for the season and actually tally the fores and against. You might then be able to substantiate your assertions. 

I go every week mate, but I also work a very busy job, so I don't think I'll be doing that. But perhaps you could, if you want to dispute it.

[Winter Dan 470]

Well it's not like the FD forgot that he was out of contract. If it's true they low balled an offer, than its a calculated move. Every player is an opportunity and an opportunity cost. Could be we think the compansation/salary cap affords us something else we have in mind - another player (there is a few possibly available ) while Joel Smith Hore or Petty step into the back 6/7. 

How about we trade for hawks/nth first pick in exchange for frost and one of the split picks? 

[DeeSpencer 26,081]

7 hours ago, Salems Lot said:

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2019-05-17/rd-9-speedy-eagle-caught-by-frost

 

The turnover was one thing, but that's not what's stopping Frosty being an excellent player. Smart players with poor skills can just dial back the difficulty and be very handy. Dylan Grimes is a perfect example of the kind of ball user Frosty could be.

The thing that this clip really highlights is Frost's lack of game sense. He lets Kennedy go up to the contest for a 2 on 1, not helping Hore at all, then isn't mentally quick enough to cut the angle down and tackle Petrucelle before he gets by him. Luckily he has great effort and speed to run him down but a smarter defender would've made a better play earlier.

[spirit of norm smith 16,588]

1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

I wish someone would post the 'out on the full' kick he made after this tackle. 

It's a much more accurate representation of what he offers the team. 

Or the torpedo punts into the centre square from full back 

Or round 23 when he destroyed Brown

Or the run and 2 handballs and one kick to setup a goal v Freo 

Frosty was one of the very few bright lights in 2019

ridiculous to low ball any contract offer 

[Earl Hood 6,101]

19 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Or the torpedo punts into the centre square from full back 

Or round 23 when he destroyed Brown

Or the run and 2 handballs and one kick to setup a goal v Freo 

Frosty was one of the very few bright lights in 2019

ridiculous to low ball any contract offer 

Yes he is far from perfect but one of the very few players who actually improved their performances this year when most went backwards. He has been improving year on year for the past 3 years, learning to play to his strengths and limiting his weaknesses, eg limiting his kicks to 25m passes on the run out of defence most times. I believe he is still improving!

Oh and we are screaming out for leg speed, so let’s move him on. I don’t get it. 

[goodwindees 2,537]

The well known Frost haters have climbed out from under their rock with this news. They had gone to ground over the last 20 weeks based on Frosty’s performances which will see him B & F top 5 whilst highly paid others have been a total flop. 

One thing that must be realised is that the greatest footy club with the greatest coach in the history of the game are courting him.  Also hear the Roos are also. 

Not sure I’d be coming out from under my rock. 

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,408]

Would love Frosty to stay. Yes his disposal at times is a concern, if we had some more class around him this wouldn’t be such an issue. I often wonder where our salary cap goes looking at our list we must have a few players cleaning up. 

[Fork 'em 6,991]

46 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

  I often wonder where our salary cap goes looking at our list we must have a few players cleaning up. 

MFC .... B graders paradise.
Just ask Jonesy.

And Frost reminds me of Tmac when he was down back.
Sometimes good but also sometimes terrifying.

Edited September 10, 2019 by Fork 'em

[Dee Zephyr 19,268]

From Frostball to lowball hey. Yes, he provided excitement in a dismal season but....he was fairly costly according to the data provided by fr_ap in the below thread. Great work by the way.