Well .... After reading all responses 

I would KEEP for another year

Clearly injured still not done cleverer and creative as anyone we have

GOOD LUCK JEFFY on your side son!

None of Stretch, JKH, ANB, Spargo or C Wags can win a one on one.  At least when he’s switched  on, Jeff can sneak up on them.  God I hope the new fitness guru brings in people who know strength and conditioning and can teach tackling.  We stink it up when there is heat.  What a sad season we’ve had...

  On 25/08/2019 at 10:18, Meggs said:

None of Stretch, JKH, ANB, Spargo or C Wags can win a one on one.  At least when he’s switched  on, Jeff can sneak up on them.  God I hope the new fitness guru brings in people who know strength and conditioning and can teach tackling.  We stink it up when there is heat.  What a sad season we’ve had...

Would you not also include Jeffy in that list, Meggs?

Ha probably but we’ve seen him provide forward pressure and he’s demonstrably quicker than my fab 5

Keep Jeffy. When fit is a great chaser and tackler and he knows where the goals are.Too good to chuck away.

I don't see the value - I'm not at all convinced he will deliver more than whichever turns out best of our little collection of 'junior' options.

For example, neither of Lochkart or Dunkley have even had an AFL pre-season, let alone an interrupted one.

I'd rather see a kid get chances than an unreliable (both form and injury) 30-year-old cling on.

Plus, need space for Viney to play forward pocket.

If he is not getting a game now(in the last half of the year), what makes you think he will get a game next year?

#thanks4thememoriesjeffy

Edited August 25, 20195 yr by Win4theAges

  On 25/08/2019 at 01:14, Cranky Franky said:

I thought he was finished last year but 9 goals from 7 games means he was on track for a 30 goal season - even with a dodgy shoulder.   He is still a mile ahead of any other small forward we have so I would give him a performance based one year deal.  Lets not throw out the baby with the bathwater.  

None left anyway.  All got drunk after our win over HFC last September 

  On 25/08/2019 at 01:28, loges said:

As I've posted a couple of times before, took personal leave late 2017 and when came back was way out of form for a good year and a half. This year played some "ok" games. Borderline for me.

South of the border for me. 

  On 25/08/2019 at 07:52, Demon Dude said:

Garlett should be delisted imo. I think we have to get games into Lockhart, Bedford, Spargo and Chandler next year to find out who is worth persisting with, and who isn't. 

Lockhart useless

Bedford useless

Spargo useless

Chandler useless 

Delist all four.

Get some real players in.

 

 

Happy to leave this one with the FD. I have vivid memories of his tenacious dangerous effect, defenders chitting themselves. As already noted came back from that personal leave and has struggled since, that injury this year has clouded where he's at even further. His age shouldn't be a problem due to his build, his head space is where it's at.

 

Delist:

Both Wagners, ANB, Spargo, Lockhart, JKH, Bedford, Chandler, Baker, Bradtke, Kolodjashnij, Jordon, Keilty, Nietschke, Oscar Macdonald, Stretch, Vandenberg, Walker. All VFL level or lower level, except Vandenberg who is eternally injured.

GET SOME ELITE PLAYERS into the team!!!!

Edited August 25, 20195 yr by President Dee Trump

  On 25/08/2019 at 11:33, 1 red eye 1 blue eye said:

Happy to leave this one with the FD. I have vivid memories of his tenacious dangerous effect, defenders chitting themselves. As already noted came back from that personal leave and has struggled since, that injury this year has clouded where he's at even further. His age shouldn't be a problem due to his build, his head space is where it's at.

 

He's not the only one, head space of all our list needs serious consideration.

  On 25/08/2019 at 10:18, Meggs said:

None of Stretch, JKH, ANB, Spargo or C Wags can win a one on one.  At least when he’s switched  on, Jeff can sneak up on them.  God I hope the new fitness guru brings in people who know strength and conditioning and can teach tackling.  We stink it up when there is heat.  What a sad season we’ve had...

Yep which is why all of the above need to be cleaned out

Stretch?? I saw him calling out for the footy by himself 100 meters of his man on other side of ground, Delist. ANB // Momentum killer of the highest order Delist, Both Wagners?? Useless! Spargo? Useless Delsit all.JKH?? Showed something but been around for too long without breaking out. Keilty? No Tim Smith?? No 

Jeffy stays for easons articulated above!

We've got one small forward of AFL quality on the list. Garlett. Go back to the pre-season (before 1st shoulder injury) and he was first picked for that role. Early in the season also, first picked for that role until shoulder injury 2. No one has since proved they are superior to Garlett in that role. Most of the options named in previous posts struggle to get a kick at both AFL and VFL level, let alone be a goal scoring threat. Lockhart is the best of the bunch but I'd be grooming him as Nev's successor.

I get the whole forward pressure thing - Garlett may not tackle like Viney but he does, with his speed, apply pressure to opposition defenders. But if that's your main criteria then Jordie "Tackles" McKenzie would still be on the list

The best form of pressure has always and will always be scoreboard pressure. Garlett's our only small forward who can regularly kick goals. We'd be mad to turf him out without a ready made replacement

  On 25/08/2019 at 11:26, President Dee Trump said:

Lockhart useless

Bedford useless

Spargo useless

Chandler useless 

Delist all four.

Get some real players in.

 

 

I actually thought Chandler was Ok v Sydney, he is the only small forward this year that actually laid inside 50m tackles.  The rest, Lockhart needs to be moved to back pocket, back up/replacement for Nev Jetta.  Spargo, small and slow, if you are small you need to be quick and hard as nails, ANB isn't a forward you would hate being a forward with him kicking the ball to you.

  On 25/08/2019 at 08:26, Lord Nev said:

Gut feel is he might retire.

But please can we stop with the incorrect statements, he leads our entire club for average tackles inside 50.

Also happens to be our leading average goal kicker.

Let's open both eyes and be grown up when talking about him hey.

Not sure either of those stats are anything to celebrate this year, his tackle and goal averages were well down on his god years with the club (2015-17). He's only managed 7 & 11 games in the last 2 seasons, this year mainly because of injury, and he's just turned 30. Not many smaller forwards have gotten any better once they pass the 30 mark, Eddie Betts who's been he best small forward of the last 10 years saw his numbers drop off a fair bit when he past 30 (to the point where he was dropped and is talked about as trade bait). 

So I think you're on the money with the feeling he'll retire, but if not I think the club might take that decision out of his hands. 

  On 26/08/2019 at 00:01, Red and Blue realist said:

Not sure either of those stats are anything to celebrate this year, his tackle and goal averages were well down on his god years with the club (2015-17). He's only managed 7 & 11 games in the last 2 seasons, this year mainly because of injury, and he's just turned 30. Not many smaller forwards have gotten any better once they pass the 30 mark, Eddie Betts who's been he best small forward of the last 10 years saw his numbers drop off a fair bit when he past 30 (to the point where he was dropped and is talked about as trade bait). 

So I think you're on the money with the feeling he'll retire, but if not I think the club might take that decision out of his hands. 

Oh yeah, not trying to say he's been sensational, more just trying to tell people to lighten up on the criticism as some seem to enjoy going way overboard with it when the reality is not as black and white.

  On 26/08/2019 at 00:04, Lord Nev said:

Oh yeah, not trying to say he's been sensational, more just trying to tell people to lighten up on the criticism as some seem to enjoy going way overboard with it when the reality is not as black and white.

Seems to be the way on here at the moment, either the criticism or the love for a player is way over the top. Not much rational thought put into any discussions. 

I assume those that are in a hurry to get rid of Garlett are happy with C Wagner as our number 1 small forward in round 1 2020...

  On 25/08/2019 at 11:37, President Dee Trump said:

Delist:

Both Wagners, ANB, Spargo, Lockhart, JKH, Bedford, Chandler, Baker, Bradtke, Kolodjashnij, Jordon, Keilty, Nietschke, Oscar Macdonald, Stretch, Vandenberg, Walker. All VFL level or lower level, except Vandenberg who is eternally injured.

GET SOME ELITE PLAYERS into the team!!!!

That's 18 players, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't mean all 18 at once. Even after free agency and trading, that would still likely leave us with about 12-14 picks at the draft. I'm not sure there's a lot of elite talent for the 6-8 picks we'd have in the 100s.

  On 25/08/2019 at 11:37, President Dee Trump said:

Delist:

Both Wagners, ANB, Spargo, Lockhart, JKH, Bedford, Chandler, Baker, Bradtke, Kolodjashnij, Jordon, Keilty, Nietschke, Oscar Macdonald, Stretch, Vandenberg, Walker. All VFL level or lower level, except Vandenberg who is eternally injured.

GET SOME ELITE PLAYERS into the team!!!!

 

Edited August 26, 20195 yr by Moonshadow

  On 26/08/2019 at 02:32, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I assume those that are in a hurry to get rid of Garlett are happy with C Wagner as our number 1 small forward in round 1 2020...

I would hope we could trade someone in for that role, or maybe draft a kid who is physically ready.

Edited August 26, 20195 yr by Redleg

  On 25/08/2019 at 08:45, Moonshadow said:

I like Shai Bolton as well. Think he will be ooc at end of this season  

He’s keen to come back to WA Moonie.