The Stephen Coniglio Thread

[SPC 3,532]

11 hours ago, Spud said:

Gil got his wish. 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-27/star-giant-rejects-bigmoney-offers-to-sign-massive-sevenyear-deal

Carlton and Hawthorn now to have a crack at Langdon, Amon and Papley, players MFC should/are also targeting.

Burgoyne will take 3 years at GCS in a Hodge/Mitchell like role.

 

Gil got his wish cause he influenced the decision. I am sure there is another $4m undeclared on the AFL books. 

[whatwhat say what 22,693]

coniglio's marketing money contract is sure to be separate to his playing contract

well done afl - handing out extra picks to gc17 because their salary cap management is so bad that they had to ditch jarryd lyons, who is a gun for the bears, and now making sure that gw$ stay competitive by keeping the likes of kelly and coniglio with some, shall we say, 'interesting' deals 

[Clintosaurus 7,838]

EAD Hawthorn - the salt coming from their supporters could flavour hot chips for the next 5 years. Fair bit from Carlton fans too.

[binman 42,648]

I'm really pleased he decided to stay. Great get for gws, particularly given they also secured kelly. Good for football. 

The game needs gws and gc to work. Players staying put is key to that.

I'm not averse to gc getting pick 2 as a priority pick . But only if there are other measures put in place that support player retention and buildinf a cohesive culture (investment in facilities, support for good fitness team, greater access to QLD teams, cola, support for grass roots footy in region, resolving issues that make it hard for fans to get to the ground etc etc). Otherwise it's just throwing good money after bad.

[Bay Riffin 1,472]

21 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

EAD Hawthorn - the salt coming from their supporters could flavour hot chips for the next 5 years. Fair bit from Carlton fans too.

feel free to post their salty tears and comments. would be a joy. Hawks supporters thought they had him in the bag. just get a star mid each year they don't have to develop and away you go.

 

 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

8 minutes ago, binman said:

I'm really pleased he decided to stay. Great get for gws, particularly given they also secured kelly. Good for football. 

Couldn't agree more, mate.  I always like seeing players stick with their clubs for the long term.

The fact that it means Carlton and Hawthorn miss out is the cherry on the top.  

[Redleg 40,833]

2 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

coniglio's marketing money contract is sure to be separate to his playing contract

well done afl - handing out extra picks to gc17 because their salary cap management is so bad that they had to ditch jarryd lyons, who is a gun for the bears, and now making sure that gw$ stay competitive by keeping the likes of kelly and coniglio with some, shall we say, 'interesting' deals 

Quite likely.

We have to understand, which is hard to accept, that we don't play in a sporting competition, we play in a business of football.

As we all know, nearly anything goes in business, as long as the profits are there and keep growing.

I wouldn't even put it past the AFL to disqualify us from a GF,  if it meant GC or GWS could take our place.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,218]

33 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Quite likely.

We have to understand, which is hard to accept, that we don't play in a sporting competition, we play in a business of football.

As we all know, nearly anything goes in business, as long as the profits are there and keep growing.

I wouldn't even put it past the AFL to disqualify us from a GF,  if it meant GC or GWS could take our place.

The GC Sins have proved a failure. The Gold Coast has proven a graveyard for basketball, soccer and If my memory serves, even a Rugby team failed.

As you say, the AFL is more about business than anything else, so one cannot but wonder how long a failed venture can continue to be propped up.

[old dee 23,779]

54 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

The GC Sins have proved a failure. The Gold Coast has proven a graveyard for basketball, soccer and If my memory serves, even a Rugby team failed.

As you say, the AFL is more about business than anything else, so one cannot but wonder how long a failed venture can continue to be propped up.

As long as Gil is in charge sadly.

[Demon Disciple 12,064]

Agree that is good for the game (and the Hawks and Blues get rejected!!!). But i wonder how much of his deal will be ticked off by Gil as 3rd party endorsements?

[Bitter but optimistic 22,218]

44 minutes ago, old dee said:

As long as Gil is in charge sadly.

And most likely beyond od. They are in so far they can only pull the plug and admit failure or continue to tip in coin until the Sins succeed consistently.

Whenever that may be!!!

[Sir Why You Little 36,970]

10 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

And most likely beyond od. They are in so far they can only pull the plug and admit failure or continue to tip in coin until the Sins succeed consistently.

Whenever that may be!!!

All of the Commissioners and CEO’s who voted for this still born carcass that is the Gold Coast $un$ will have to have moved on before anything will happen. None of them will admit defeat. 

The Broadcast rights are actually too high. The quality of the broadcasts has been compromised to line the AFL pockets quietly. ( That includes Club Handouts)

The Gold Coast will be with us for at least 5-10 years

[Youngwilliam 381]

2 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

The GC Sins have proved a failure. The Gold Coast has proven a graveyard for basketball, soccer and If my memory serves, even a Rugby team failed.

As you say, the AFL is more about business than anything else, so one cannot but wonder how long a failed venture can continue to be propped up.

Correct, Gold Coast have a failed Rugby League team that even had King Wally Lewis playing for them. The team had 4 name changes and nothing brought the fans in for the long haul.

Clive Palmer had the soccer team and he only opened 1/3 of a stadium during a game to keep staff numbers down. Team was making a profit but FFA kicked them out as it didn't look good seeing so many empty seats.

 

[Demonland 71,557]

[Sir Why You Little 36,970]

25 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I am sure the $2.8 million will find it’s way to him over a period of time

[Moonshadow 17,675]

Yes, but he's also the multicultural 'ambassador' for the AFL, he'd get heaps of other marketing work and he gets extra payments for finals games (which one would think GWS will play more than Carlton).

I'm all for him staying, particularly screwing over Blues and Hawks, but let's not be naive enough to think for a moment he won't make the same coin overall in the next 7 years.

How about the AFL disclose all player payments outside of their club contract? Or is that too transparent to expect?....

[whatwhat say what 22,693]

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

How about the AFL disclose all player payments outside of their club contract? Or is that too transparent to expect?....

they don't even disclose actual club contracts; it's all guess work and 'informed' information

[DubDee 25,650]

can understand him turning down extra cash as he'd be on $1mil per year but how could you chose to play in front on 8K people each week? having no supporters would suck

[ManDee 7,124]

4 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

The GC Sins have proved a failure. The Gold Coast has proven a graveyard for basketball, soccer and If my memory serves, even a Rugby team failed.

As you say, the AFL is more about business than anything else, so one cannot but wonder how long a failed venture can continue to be propped up.

GCFC is but one component of a successful business model. Advertisers and TV  put up their money based on the exposure generated by having games in all states and territories.  The current model where some sides make money and others lose money works because of the big picture and redistribution. Not all business units need to make money if the overall business is sound. 

The problem with Gold Coast is that they need more and different help. Not more draft picks. One or two free agents outside the salary cap for a start. A real cost on free agents leaving bottom clubs. Players leaving bottom 4 clubs for top 4 sides to have a salary cap penalty to the top 4 clubs. (Or top 8 sides can only get 1 free agent every 5 years)

I am glad the Coniglio is staying put, I am glad if the AFL has helped. 

[Demonland 71,557]

I guess that's that then.