Demons Grand Plan for Yarra Park Training HQ

[Wrecker45 3,378]

We should build the facilities and make Collingwood pay for it.

[Demon Disciple 12,180]

27 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

We should build the facilities and make Collingwood pay for it.

I say we ask our better to do members to cough up the money. Last i checked, Eddie McGuire is a member of the MFC (as he is with all Victorian clubs).

I say we ask him to foot the bill!

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,816]

On 2/1/2019 at 1:32 PM, Wrecker45 said:

We should build the facilities and make Collingwood pay for it.

I know it's only early February, but I can't see how anything else is going to surpass this comment for post of the year.

[Diamond_Jim 12,598]

3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I know it's only early February, but I can't see how anything else is going to surpass this comment for post of the year.

yep it resonated with me a la that man in the White House... great post Wrecker

PS... if the above made me sound like a fan of Donald... I am ceratinly not !!

[pineapple dee 2,892]

On 1/31/2019 at 11:52 PM, Demon Disciple said:

After being on the wait list for approx 13 years, it only took 2 attendances in the MCC to realise that it was too upper class for my liking.

I much prefer slumming it with the rest of my riff-raff brethren in the southern stand.

There are plenty of poorly dressed, ill educated bums in the MCC and you don't have to look far to find them. As long as they're drinking copious amounts of way overpriced beer, the MCC is happy. If you'd waited a little bit longer, the standard would have fallen to a level more to your liking DD.

[FireInTheBennelly 4,072]

So more money for poor old Carlton. State gov offered $20m and Federal Gov has now come through with $15m for Ikon Park.

Any chance someone will flick us a bit?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,816]

8 hours ago, FireInTheBelly said:

So more money for poor old Carlton. State gov offered $20m and Federal Gov has now come through with $15m for Ikon Park.

Any chance someone will flick us a bit?

I actually see this as good news. Governments are showing preparedness to cough up if there's a legitimate project. All we need to do is get all the right ducks in a row and the dollars should be forthcoming.

[ding 5,126]

Between audio failures yesterday, i heard snippets of G.Pert talking about the plan for our HQ and Social club. I missed most of what he said because of the dud audio, and it was mostly during the half time break, which the replay footage missed.

Did anyone hear what he said, and was anything new spoken about this?

After seeing what the 'Pies have, im bloody jealous.

We desperately need a permanent home and training ground, and the Social Club is a must, sooner rather than later.

[Crossroads 14]

This has been talked about every year since Barassi returned in 1981.

38 years ago

Training Base and Social Club.

The problem is... no one has the foresight to plan for it to arrive in 5 years.

Past Boards and management have been asleep at the wheel on this objective.

Olympic park should never have happened.

'Show me stats and I'll shut up'

[Sir Why You Little 37,052]

2 hours ago, Crossroads said:

This has been talked about every year since Barassi returned in 1981.

38 years ago

Training Base and Social Club.

The problem is... no one has the foresight to plan for it to arrive in 5 years.

Past Boards and management have been asleep at the wheel on this objective.

Olympic park should never have happened.

'Show me stats and I'll shut up'

We should have claimed the Lexus Center 

Good Debt is good business

Gutnick let us down badly on this one

[Neitz Blitz 13]

Any updates?

Edited March 1, 2019 by Demonland
Please use search function instead of starting new threads.

[old dee 23,801]

32 minutes ago, Neitz Blitz said:

Any updates?

Quieter than the grave. Next news will be not long before the next AGM.

[Demon trucker 1,800]

2 hours ago, Neitz Blitz said:

Any updates?

Yeah  update is, leave this tread and the plan dead and buried, not going to happen.

Edited March 1, 2019 by don't make me angry

[Redleg 40,974]

On 2/24/2019 at 12:08 AM, Sir Why You Little said:

We should have claimed the Lexus Center 

Good Debt is good business

Gutnick let us down badly on this one

Was it in fact the Gutnick Board that passed on the Lexus centre or another MFC Board?

It certainly wasn’t solely Gutnick if it was offered during his time at the club, that is for sure.

[rjay 24,990]

On 2/24/2019 at 12:08 AM, Sir Why You Little said:

We should have claimed the Lexus Center 

Good Debt is good business

Gutnick let us down badly on this one

 

5 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Was it in fact the Gutnick Board that passed on the Lexus centre or another MFC Board?

It certainly wasn’t solely Gutnick if it was offered during his time at the club, that is for sure.

I think we often look at the fully formed C/wood centre and wonder what could have been.

...but like him or not, without McGuires political savvy & vision they wouldn't have been able to develop that ground & in turn the facility they have.

Say if we did get the building I think we would probably still be arguing about where our training ground would be and the athletes would still be training at Olympic Park...

[old dee 23,801]

1 hour ago, rjay said:

 

I think we often look at the fully formed C/wood centre and wonder what could have been.

...but like him or not, without McGuires political savvy & vision they wouldn't have been able to develop that ground & in turn the facility they have.

Say if we did get the building I think we would probably still be arguing about where our training ground would be and the athletes would still be training at Olympic Park...

A cynical view rjay but probably true.

[Sir Why You Little 37,052]

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

Was it in fact the Gutnick Board that passed on the Lexus centre or another MFC Board?

It certainly wasn’t solely Gutnick if it was offered during his time at the club, that is for sure.

It was during the Gutnick Board. We had first call and stayed at the Junction Oval..

 

madness

[Diamond_Jim 12,598]

This option is dead not so much because it is impossible but because its implementation will involve so many compromises that if it ever gets off the ground it will be  a less than adequate facility compared to those of other clubs.

Time to go back to the drawing board and think again.

I would not be surprised if Collingwood moves to something bigger and better in the next ten plus years. They have to spend their money on something.  Richmond could bite the bullet and do the same.

The likes of Esssendon and the big interstate clubs have given us a glimpse of where the training facilities of 2030 and beyond are heading.

[rjay 24,990]

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

This option is dead not so much because it is impossible but because its implementation will involve so many compromises that if it ever gets off the ground it will be  a less than adequate facility compared to those of other clubs.

Time to go back to the drawing board and think again.

I would not be surprised if Collingwood moves to something bigger and better in the next ten plus years. They have to spend their money on something.  Richmond could bite the bullet and do the same.

The likes of Esssendon and the big interstate clubs have given us a glimpse of where the training facilities of 2030 and beyond are heading.

I've been thinking along similar lines 'Diamond'...

Whilst I fully get the romance of being around the 'G' the practicality may not match.

It's only a matter of time until the Pies & Tiges move on...

[old dee 23,801]

50 minutes ago, rjay said:

I've been thinking along similar lines 'Diamond'...

Whilst I fully get the romance of being around the 'G' the practicality may not match.

It's only a matter of time until the Pies & Tiges move on...

Not sure what the time frame is rjay but What about Pies to the docklands and Dees to Olympic park? Cannot see the Tigers going anywhere.

 

[Wells 11 5,407]

We’re walking a tightrope here. Once this team heads into its inevitable decline ...hopefully not for a few years yet tho... our good players will leave to clubs in the window.  with crap facilities we will not be able to attract players to replace them. This period , now, is when we HAVE to make something happen or we will b royally screwed. 

No one has come out and said it yet, but fair to say we can Mark pert down for his first fail. 

[picket fence 17,179]

9 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

We’re walking a tightrope here. Once this team heads into its inevitable decline ...hopefully not for a few years yet tho... our good players will leave to clubs in the window.  with crap facilities we will not be able to attract players to replace them. This period , now, is when we HAVE to make something happen or we will b royally screwed. 

No one has come out and said it yet, but fair to say we can Mark pert down for his first fail. 

To be fair how is this Perts failure?

This aint I dream of Jeannie!

Harsh!

[whatwhat say what 22,783]

13 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

We’re walking a tightrope here. Once this team heads into its inevitable decline ...hopefully not for a few years yet tho... our good players will leave to clubs in the window.  with crap facilities we will not be able to attract players to replace them. This period , now, is when we HAVE to make something happen or we will b royally screwed. 

No one has come out and said it yet, but fair to say we can Mark pert down for his first fail. 

ridiculous assessment, he hasn't even been in the job six months yet

[Moonshadow 17,676]

56 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

We’re walking a tightrope here. Once this team heads into its inevitable decline ...hopefully not for a few years yet tho... our good players will leave to clubs in the window.  with crap facilities we will not be able to attract players to replace them. This period , now, is when we HAVE to make something happen or we will b royally screwed. 

No one has come out and said it yet, but fair to say we can Mark pert down for his first fail. 

Deeluded 2.0

[Diamond_Jim 12,598]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Not sure what the time frame is rjay but What about Pies to the docklands and Dees to Olympic park? Cannot see the Tigers going anywhere.

 

lot of love for the old Punt road but I just don't think it will cut the mustard as a training facility in twenty years time.

The trouble with Olympic park is that there are space constraints and heritage overlays from some of the 1956 buildings.There's a reason the Pies will be moving