May 

Lever

Frost

Enough said?

No. Injuries happen, other players may have a slump in form. He’ll play for us again. 

Edited June 23, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

Nope. Key defender who has shown he can play at AFL level. In a form and probably mental trough, but will play senior football again.

Jumbo returns ... of course there's an elephant in the room now.

No.

We are a May or Frost injury away from Oscar being back in the side. Otherwise he is depth at Casey.

5 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

No. A little more detail and explanation of your thoughts would be appreciated. 

Sure

Three tall, mobile, backmen....is there room for a fourth?

Jets and Hibbo to return, Hoare showing good form...is there room for him?

He will come back on a wing.

And a prayer?

28 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Sure

Three tall, mobile, backmen....is there room for a fourth?

Jets and Hibbo to return, Hoare showing good form...is there room for him?

Ah I thought this Thread was about Oscar?? Ah no, depth only 

Edited June 23, 20195 yr by picket fence

i wish oscar was more of an elephant, unfortunately he qualifies more as a giraffe ?

2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Ah I thought this Thread was about Oscar?? Who is the fourth Tall mobile backman???

Oh dear...

........being trained secretly up here at Daintree Oval for a Key Forward Position in 2020.  

‘An elephant in the room’ commonly refers to something of weighty importance that the occupants of that room are thinking about but dare not speak of. I doubt OMac registers that highly in supporters’ thoughts.

He’s well down the pecking order now and rightly so. Barring more ill luck with injuries to key defenders from here on in I can’t see his contract being extended beyond 2020. Just doesn’t have enough athleticism or natural ability to go with the best in the competition, as we have repeatedly seen.

I’d see Frost go before Oscar.

Key tall defenders will be May, Lever, Petty with Oscar as depth.

Yes.....  May, Lever, Frost, Petty.

Would need multiple injuries to get a game again.

No.

But right now he's behind May, Lever, Frost and Petty IMO.

So we might not see much more of him.

Challenge has been laid down to him to improve his strength, bodywork, positioning and ability to get involved in offence, with all of the above being better at most, if not all, of those things than him.

I’d like to see Petty string a few more games together in a row before I had to pick between he and OMac as the fourth tall. 

Edited June 23, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

Ho and hum    usual experts  sorry posters in this thread

2 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Ho and hum    usual experts  sorry posters in this thread

[censored] me Saty - that is a Ho and hum post.

If you disagree then interrogate or challenge the post. That sort of [censored] you just posted makes you look a [censored].

9 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Ho and hum    usual experts  sorry posters in this thread

It’s a fan forum where part of the discussion is going to be potential list changes. Feel free to add something or jog on. 

Edited June 23, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

One half of VFL this year.
Maybe none last year?
2 in 2017
5 in 2016
Plenty in 2015

My point is, this is a guy who's had less than 10 games in the last 4 years at the level where he should be playing to improve.

At AFL level:
- Slow
- tentative physically
- doesn't seek out the ball
- doesn't run with the ball to counter attack

At VFL level he can do all of those things time and time again and get better at them. Then when he comes in to the AFL side he can do that and either improve or not.

I think he's also been underdone this year and carrying an injury, so at full fitness he can do it all with confidence. I wouldn't completely write him off until he's had a chance to develop properly.

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

Nope. Key defender who has shown he can play at AFL level. In a form and probably mental trough, but will play senior football again.

With you Nasher. Whilst he has struggled he has not been alone. Needs more time to build up the body and learn a bit more of the craft and I believe he will eventually become a decent player for us. Give him some time.

I noticed Oscar Mcdonald having an individual session at Gosh's Park on friday. 

Appeared to be a skills and fitness test.

By the end he was still hitting targets by foot on the run, after leads and some timed laps.

He looked stern and focused, showing good fitness and skills. 

I saw Colin Garland going through something similar and he couldn't break back into the 22.

Can see him getting back in.

 

Edited June 23, 20195 yr by kev martin

5 minutes ago, kev martin said:

I noticed Oscar Mcdonald having an individual session at Gosh's Park on friday. 

Appeared to be a skills and fitness test.

By the end he was still hitting targets by foot on the run, after leads and some timed laps.

He looked stern and focused, showing good fitness and skills. 

I saw Colin Garland going through something similar and he couldn't break back into the 22.

Can see him getting back in.

 

Garland announced his retirement after missing 2017 with a knee injury and would have turned 30 early the following season. OMac is currently 23 and isn’t fighting his way back into the side following a severe knee injury. I think the cases are too different to draw the same conclusion. 

1 hour ago, jumbo returns said:

Oh dear...

Fourth tall defender Harry Petty