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12 minutes ago, Dee tention said:

If the Dees don’t get bumped on Pick 2 with the GC PP. The Dees will take Noah Anderson.

If this happens, I expect Brayshaw to be on the move to Freo.

If I'm not mistaken, part of Anderson's appeal is that he is also a highly effective De Goey style forward/half forward? And can play a bit outside the contest as well?

Might be more precise to say that if the Demons take Anderson, Spargo will be on the move to Freo! :D

Flippant, for sure, but realistically, if we can't find a place for a gun kid ahead of or by shuffling around Stretch, Wagner, Wagner, Spargo, Neal-Bullen, Baker, the retired Lewis, Hannan, Hunt, T. Smith and Garlett, then clearly we are a lock for the 2020 premiership.

Another way to look at it, is when playing forward Anderson gives us everything we like (and very little of what we don't) about all three of Neal-Bullen, Hannan, and Tim Smith. Except in one body. With better disposal.

Of course, I also like having Petracca in attack, and am very interesting in seeing Viney spend time as a hunter-killer inside 50, so my overall picture has a lot of room for the likes of Anderson to rotate midfield-forward.

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Angus Brayshaw

The 2014 No. 3 pick signed a four-year extension at Melbourne this time last year, but things haven’t gone to plan for him or the Demons in 2019. After producing a brilliant 2018, the midfielder has gone backwards this year and could be someone with currency the Demons look at trading. They have plenty of midfielders like him, but not enough polished outside ball users. While it remains unlikely he will move clubs, his brother Andrew, who the Dockers selected with the second pick in the 2017 National Draft, is viewed as a crucial pillar going forward at Cockburn and his other brother Hamish is currently on West Coast’s list.

Freo Trade Targets

 

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2 hours ago, Dee tention said:

If the Dees don’t get bumped on Pick 2 with the GC PP. The Dees will take Noah Anderson.

If this happens, I expect Brayshaw to be on the move to Freo.

How does one relate to the other?  Why would Melbourne taking Anderson prompt Brayshaw to leave?

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On 6/18/2019 at 3:31 PM, Lord Nev said:

I think the majority of Dees fans recognize we have weaknesses in midfield skill, outside run/pace and delivery forward, as well as us being in our 'window' as of now. I get that there's other areas we may debate with each other about, but I feel those things are pretty clear. So how do we improve those areas quickly enough that we can make the most of our chances now? This article raises a hypothetical that I scoffed at at first but have wavered a bit since thinking about it more.

Why trading Angus Brayshaw could fix Melbourne's midfield

"But Brayshaw personifies Melbourne's midfield issues - fantastic in the contest, tough as old boots and able to find the pill, but unreliable by foot. He has committed the 11th most turnovers in the league this year, with his disposal efficiency under implied pressure and physical pressure the second-worst and fourth-worst of the league's top 50 ball-winners."

It goes on to suggest trade scenarios which would see us losing Gus, and possibly a pick, to return Lachie Whitfield.

My questions are these:

- Is Gus 'untouchable' given we have Oliver, Harmes & Viney in the same role? Plus, with Sparrow and Dunkley potentially coming through in the same vein, others as depth etc.

- What do we make of Gus' massive form slump this year? You could argue it coincides with him attending less centre bounces, but there's other aspects to that as well such as his concussion history, his lack of accountability this year and of course, our lack of outside run which sees him being used there. Is he injured this year? Unhappy? Something seems up with him.

- Do we need to make such a big move or do we rely purely on tweaks to game plans, roles and structures in the offseason? I guess that boils down to trust in the footy department to fix things, which I imagine is at a low point given our performance this year.

Thoughts?

I'm certainly glad you are not in charge of the football department. You have no idea how to build a list

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3 minutes ago, Harrisonrules said:

I'm certainly glad you are not in charge of the football department. You have no idea how to build a list

I quoted an article and asked a question.

I'm certainly glad you're not in charge of Demonland. You have no idea how to read a post.

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4 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

They can pay through the teeth to get him

All good Mahoney will ask for 3rd rounder or straight swap for Langdon. An utterly useless negotiator 

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On 8/21/2019 at 8:53 PM, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I’d be disappointed if we offered him up.

he might ask ;)

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His old man is rumored to be in the running for the CEO job at Freo, while it looks like Bellend will get it, I'd wonder if Mark did make the move if Gus would then want to move to be closer to family? If that was the case then I'd be asking for Cerra and Langdon in a trade, I don't think Freo will have much in the way of draft picks if they get Kelly, even if Hill does go. 

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Brayshaw is a gun. Would be a big mistake to trade him.

We just need to get him back to playing the football we know he can (i.e. manage him better).

 

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5 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

one of few players we have with currency

if we want to get value for him, now could be the time

 

1 minute ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Brayshaw is a gun. Would be a big mistake to trade him.

We just need to get him back to playing the football we know he can (i.e. manage him better).

 

In normal circumstances I'd agree Ron. But as Lord next notes he is a poor kick and we have too many of them. And as wwsw notes he is onw of fww players with tradw currency.

The other issue is his commitment to fitness. Was dropped early last season because he wasn't working hard enough. And I wouldn't be surprised if he is one of the players  who didn't come back in great shape. His lack of two way running suggests he is not fit enough.

 

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2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

he might ask ;)

Well....this is it Bub, we sit here and debate who we’d like to poach from other sides with little thought to our players who may want out or are other clubs radars.

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If Brayshaw asks to be traded then we act and get a top 10 pick for him. I think Hunt will seek a trade as well. People expecting a mass exodus of players are off the mark i reckon. Players ask for trades at good clubs, we have to accept its going to happen at an ordinary club like ours.  We just have to make sure we handle it well and get best price.

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3 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

one of few players we have with currency

if we want to get value for him, now could be the time

 

3 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

i call him 'jog' cos that's what he does from contest to contest

he's a super average kick

dom tyson was cheaper

He’s got currency or he’s on par with Tyson, which one is it?

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26 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

 

He’s got currency or he’s on par with Tyson, which one is it?

both?

tyson had currency once upon a time too

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If we truly want to be a successful club, and get ahead of the game, we need to be ruthless. Trade Brayshaw and pick up Coniglio for nothing.

Or we can let the Cats trade Kelly, and pick up Coniglio for nothing.

Which makes you feel better?

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On 8/21/2019 at 12:17 AM, Ethan Tremblay said:

You’re angry at Mahoney over a trade scenario that you made up in your head? That’s fantastic. 

Gold, Ethan

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Gus and his manager have held a similar meeting to the one reported about Petracca to voice their 'concerns' over how/where he's being played and the direction forward in general.

Don't know anything more than that, so not suggesting he's asked for a trade by any stretch, but given the season hasn't finished these aren't the normal exit interviews, these are specifically requested meetings to voice concerns.

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39 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Gus and his manager have held a similar meeting to the one reported about Petracca to voice their 'concerns' over how/where he's being played and the direction forward in general.

Don't know anything more than that, so not suggesting he's asked for a trade by any stretch, but given the season hasn't finished these aren't the normal exit interviews, these are specifically requested meetings to voice concerns.

The gist of Petracca’s meeting was meant to be about more time in the middle. What would of Brayshaw’s been about?

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39 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Gus and his manager have held a similar meeting to the one reported about Petracca to voice their 'concerns' over how/where he's being played and the direction forward in general.

Don't know anything more than that, so not suggesting he's asked for a trade by any stretch, but given the season hasn't finished these aren't the normal exit interviews, these are specifically requested meetings to voice concerns.

It's pretty normal to have these sort of meetings particularly when there is change. When working for someone else I'd often have these sort of meetings to understand how a change eas likely to impact my compensation plan and if I didn't like response it provided a way to work towards and acceptable position. 

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4 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

The gist of Petracca’s meeting was meant to be about more time in the middle. What would of Brayshaw’s been about?

Don't know mate, all I've been told is that they've both held meetings with Mahoney to 'raise concerns'.

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