2 hours ago, bobby1554 said:

You see, that’s where I am a little confused. Are you suggesting, in this era of the game being a multi million dollar industry and on the back of that, one of extreme professionalism, that we have a situation where team selection is being compromised somehow??? Because if it is we have a serious issue don’t we? Again, I say that the footy people see something in this young man that most on this site clearly do not

 

2 hours ago, Elegt said:

He's being gifted games at the moment 

 

I like Spargo a lot. I'm not sure he'll make it and I agree he is probably lucky to get a game on current performances.

What I see is someone who creates and adds value to our current possession situation. 

Last year he would only have 7-15 disposals, but they would regularly improve our position by opening up space, getting a player on their correct side, creating a bit of time,  etc. His possessions often resulted in us having the opportunity to attack. 

This year it hasn't worked as frequently, with more turnovers and less possessions, he has been poor.

when spargo is playing well he's involved in score chains - they're backing his ability and competitive drive to get him back to being the player he was last year

anb and stretch had opportunities and failed; now it's spargo's turn to get a go to prove he belongs at afl level at the moment

if lockhart hadn't been ANOTHER of our 'wait...he's injured?!??' players then i doubt spargo would have the opportunity that he now does

re kolodjashnij, i thought his dinky little kicks and his ability to execute the switch were really poor - regularly missed targets or seemed to nail the oppo on the chest

he went hard when it was his turn tho, and best of all he was INVOLVED in the play

one thing i don't understand is whether or not they see him in the back flank sweeper role in the afl or more of a wing role?

he definitely looks more comfortable behind the ball at vfl than he did on the wing at afl (no surprise there)

if he does show the sort of form that warrants afl selection then presumably that will free salem up to play a more attacking role, which will help the side's disposal going i50 too

Edited June 9, 20195 yr by whatwhatsaywhat

I’m a big fan of Kielty 

He is a natural footballer and team player 

Does what the coach asks

Had they not decided to turn him into a forward and part time ruckman

I believe he would have taken Oscars position this season and done a much better job

6 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Watched the whole game and it was like watchin the Casey of old last year when they were up and about.

The stand outs for me were:

Lockhart: Genuinely all round classy game from Lockhart. Attacked the contest with such speed and power and used the footy well. 24 disposals 7 tackles and kicked 1.1.. On current form you would want him playing instead of Spargo. I am intrigued what a full AFL pre season could do for someone like Jay.

Lewis: Exactly what you expect from Lewis. Was clean and just marshalled the midfield around the contest with his leadership and experience. Really liked his game.

Preuss: Dominated around the ruck and around the ground. I felt at times he missed timed his leap. But that got better as the game wore on. He was a genuine brute today and honestly after watching that performance i would bring him in next week. Not only does he draw defenders and crash packs but also follows up with his 2nd efforts and pressure. Loved big Preussy today. 19 disposal 6 tackles 6 marks 41 hitouts and kicked 1.3

Dunkley: I honestly forgot that he was on our list until they mentioned his name pre game lol. But bloody hell he was very impressive! Plays a lot like his brother Josh when he is in the midfield and cracks in hard. Campbell Brown summed it it up well when he said he just gets in the right spots in the right time. Used the ball well and has a touch of class about him. Each quarter he would start up forward then rotate into the midfield for a 5 to 8 minute burst. Play another game like that and he'll be seeing AFL action very soon. 21 disposals 5 tackles 6 clearences and kicked 3 goals

KK:  Really loved his game today and really showed out with his composure and class. At one stage he courageously ran into on coming traffic and took a great intercept mark in the middle. The big thing that stood out to me was his workrate. He used his big engine to good use and at one stage he had it out on the back  pocket and kicked 40m up the field to a contest and by the time it got there, KK had already pushed himself to help out a teammate and get a handball receive.That would have really excited Goodwin. 

Wagner: He ia a genuine star at VFL level and today was such a complete performance. Used his speed around the contest and rarely wasted the footy. Going on todays form i just wish he could translate that into AFL level.

Special mentions to JKH, Petty and Chandler who all played really well also.

Great write up, DD.

 

Dunkley also kicked 3 goals in his VFL debut for the Doggies just before we drafted him.  Seems hes a goalkicking machine.  Exciting stuff.

And Lockhart is a total gun,  hes way above VFL level. Too bad he isnt in the team tomorrow ahead of Spargo.

2 hours ago, Old Bear said:

I’m a big fan of Kielty 

He is a natural footballer and team player 

Does what the coach asks

Had they not decided to turn him into a forward and part time ruckman

I believe he would have taken Oscars position this season and done a much better job

He is a good tap ruck. That is why he is part time ruck. But he isn't a forward. I'd have him down back and pinch hitting in the ruck. His asset is his versatility. He will struggle to get a game here on out though. Lever and May back push a couple out.

Edited June 9, 20195 yr by KingDingAling

3 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

And Lockhart is a total gun,  hes way above VFL level. Too bad he isnt in the team tomorrow ahead of Spargo.

Yes, his 8 disposals against the Giants were a real game-changer.

11 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Reminds me of my first Jnr coach who had this smallish dog that use to chase the ball.  Usually it was just at training, but it did make one or two match day appearances, which was an interesting interlude from normal game play.

1 hour ago, bing181 said:

Yes, his 8 disposals against the Giants were a real game-changer.

He was injured early with his knee against the giants 

10 hours ago, Elegt said:

He coughed up alot 

typical reply by you

Lockhart and Bedford played well. Both will be in the AFL side regularly over the next 2 years. Lockhart is that far ahead of Spargo it is obvious 

3 hours ago, bing181 said:

Yes, his 8 disposals against the Giants were a real game-changer.

Bing, this is a bloke that has come in from no AFL pre season whatsoever and has showed glimpse of his talent. I watched him yesterday and he was such a dominant player using his speed and aggressiveness around the contest. Spargo coming in on the back off 2 weeks off with injury and then on top of a poor VFL game was quite bizarre..

As someone that's spent time with Spargo in his junior days, i am obviously a big fan and knows what he is capable off. Right now he is extremely lucky to be playing today, and is on thin ice after several players put their hands up yesterday.

If he does not perform today then i would bring in Lockhart. Besides, for the good of his development it would not hurt him if he was at Casey developing his game and getting more midfield time where he was such a dominant player back at under 16s level.

TURNAROUND by KC from Casey 

It is truly amazing what a difference eight days can make in the life and times of a football club. It was a little over a week ago that the Casey Demons side were literally crushed into submission by the Werribee Tigers at Avalon Airport Oval. The losing margin in that game was not huge but the way they struggled to produce and cohesion in their play was obvious for all to see. 

On Sunday at Casey Fields as part of heritage week, the team wore the Springvale FC jumper and made its own turnaround in time against Collingwood VFL. And it was a dramatic turnaround that was told on the scoreboard in terms of a 63 point win that might well reignite the club’s season. 

The difference can be explained mainly in terms of the number of AFL-listed players available to Casey Demons head coach Jade Rawlings and to the infusion of a wealth of experience at the highest level which they brought with them in the game. This automatically added to the confidence level of every player and they were all able to take risks and produce efforts that have simply been out of the question over the past couple of months.

The return of Jordan Lewis from a suspension brought with it a significant amount of on field leadership and flair. Lewis himself spent a great deal of time in the midfield where he picked up 30 possessions, took eight marks and controlled the game’s proceedings.

The team’s intent was on display from the beginning as it attacked constantly in difficult conditions and against a cross wind that slightly benefited the visiting team. Six minutes into the game, Casey had three goals on the board and led 20-0. The Pies fought back but the home side maintained control with a three goal burst in the middle of the second term seeing them off to a handy 34 point half time lead. Throughout the day, the defence led by Harry Petty was superb as it strangled the life out of the Collingwood attack. 

Having forced the opposition into submission, the Casey Demons turned the second half into a cakewalk as they coasted away to a comprehensive 15.12.102 to 6.3.39 in which the incoming talent flourished.

Apart from Lewis, Kade Kolondjashnij was a standout showing glimpses of his early form at the Suns and collecting 28 touches. Jay Lockhart (24 possessions) underlined how much he has improved with a few AFL games under his belt, as did Corey Wagner who was brilliant in accumulating 27 touches. 

The Demons would also be pleased with mid season draft pick Kyle Dunkley who booted three goals, accumulated 21 disposals and showed enough to suggest that he might be heading for AFL honours at some stage as the season progresses.

Dunkley’s three goals were matched by skipper Mitch White who was strong in the air (10 marks) and around the ground. Jimmy Munro and Will Collis were also strong contributors for the Demons.

The Casey Demons cause was enhanced by the strength of Braydon Preuss in the ruck and around the ground. He was capably backed up by Declan Keilty while lightly built ruck rookie Austin Bradtke also showed promise in his maiden VFL appearance after spending some time in the NAB Under 18 League.

The team has a bye next week and then faces up to the difficult task of pushing a claim from a long way back for finals honours.

2019 Hard Yakka / Totally Workwear VFL  

Casey Demons 4.5.29 7.11.53 9.11.65 15.12.102

Collingwood VFL 2.0.12 3.1.19 5.2.32 6.3.39

Goals  

Casey Demons Dunkley White 3 Chandler Lefau C Wagner 2 Lockhart Neal-Bullen Preuss

Collingwood VFL Reid 2 Cameron Gallucci Hellier Oxley

Best

Casey Demons Lockhart Petty C Wagner J Lewis Dunkley W Collis

Collingwood VFL Reid Scharenberg Hustwaite Glover Gallucci Lane

Statistics 

Toby Bedford 3 kicks 3 handballs 6 disposals 2 tackles 20 dream team points  
Austin Bradkte 4 kicks 5 handballs 9 disposals 3 marks 4 hit outs 35 dream team points  
Heath Briggs 4 kicks 4 handballs 8 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 35 dream team points  
Kade Chandler 2 goals 1 behind 8 kicks 6 handballs 14 disposals 6 marks 4 tackles 80 dream team points
Wayne Collis 9 kicks 4 handballs 13 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 49 dream team points  
Kyle Dunkley 3 goals 17 kicks 4 handballs 21 disposals 4 marks 5 tackles 112 dream team points  
Tom Freeman 3 kicks 2 handballs 5 disposals 1 tackle 14 dream team points  
Jack Hutchins 11 kicks 5 handballs 16 disposals 6 marks 62 dream team points  
James Jordon 1 behind 12 kicks 3 handballs 15 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 64 dream team points  
Declan Keilty 7 kicks 6 handballs 13 disposals 7 marks 6 tackles 14 hit outs 93 dream team points
Jay Kennedy Harris 1 behind 19 kicks 6 handballs 25 disposals 11 marks 3 tackles 115 dream team points  
Kade Kolodjashnij 2 behinds 17 kicks 11 handballs 28 disposals 6 marks 4 tackles 109 dream team points
Mykelti Lefau 1 goal 1 behind 6 kicks 1 handballs 7 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 58 dream team points  
Jordan Lewis 11 kicks 19 handballs 30 disposals 8 marks 3 tackles 106 dream team points  
Jay Lockhart 1 goal 17 kicks 7 handballs 24 disposals 11 marks 7 tackles 127 dream team points  
James Munro 16 kicks 11 handballs 27 disposals 8 marks 2 tackles 99 dream team points  
Alex Neal-Bullen 1 goal 1 behind 8  kicks 7 handballs 15 disposals 2 marks 8 tackles 72 dream team points  
Harry Petty 10 kicks 8 handballs 18 disposals 6 marks 4 tackles 77 dream team points  
Braydon Preuss 1 goal 3 behinds 13 kicks 6 handballs 19 disposals 6 marks 6 tackles 40 hit outs 140 dream team points 
Cory Stockdale 9 kicks 4 handballs 13 disposals 2 marks 41 dream team points  
Anthony Vella 9 kicks 2 handballs 11 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 45 dream team points  
Corey Wagner 2 goals 1 behind 20 kicks 7 handballs 27 disposals 5 marks 8 tackles 137 dream team points  
Mitchell White 3 goals 13 kicks 10 handballs 23 disposals 10 marks 1 tackle 108 dream team points  

That footage of Munro and his dog is hilarious.   

It's time the AFL held a "Dog Appreciation Round".

Players would have to run on all fours with boots on both feet and hands and could only pick up the loose ball in their mouth.

When an interchange is required, forget the board with numbers and just give a 'come here' whistle.

At the breaks, the Coach could pat the ones that played well and growl at the ones who didn't.

Bog was 

1. Wagner

2. Lewis 

3. Lockhart

Lockhart should be in the afl side. 

Did O.Mac play ? or did we use one of our p.ss weak excuses by labelling as injured. Ferkin, why do we continue to play Preuss in the reserves when he is a cut above the rest.

On 6/9/2019 at 9:38 PM, Vagg said:

Indeed!  Now, let's repeat the dose tomorrow arvo at the 'G, where it really matters!

Sadly Vagg we got the familiar result of the last 50 years. If only my father had barracked for Hawthorn.

Lockhart was the standout in terms of playing a class above. His ability to break out of traffic, use the ball well, mark strongly etc etc was a cut above. 

Dunkley was really good to watch as well mostly around the stoppages. He has a natural ability to create room for himself to get a kick away and just as importantly he has the penetration to make that kick useful. I'm sure he has a lot to develop including using his hands more creatively but I can see why he was recruited. For some reason no Melbourne player can get a long snap out of traffic either at a stoppage or in the forward line so I hope we don't ruin Dunkley's ability to do it! 

Kyle Chandler is the other one who plays like he'll be a handy player. He's quick on to the ball or to tackle, seems to read it well and has a decent mark for his size. His sidestep to get on to his left is very nice as well. 

Oh and he's almost certainly too slow and small to have it work at AFL level but Mitch White dominated as a lead up 3rd tall. Played like Tom Lynch (crows). A little more speed and good health and he would've had a decent AFL career I think. Glad he's sticking around at Casey.

On 6/10/2019 at 12:07 AM, Old Bear said:

I’m a big fan of Kielty 

He is a natural footballer and team player 

Does what the coach asks

Had they not decided to turn him into a forward and part time ruckman

I believe he would have taken Oscars position this season and done a much better job

I Agree mate, watched him play a few games down back before he got drafted and looked much more suited to that role.

1 hour ago, old dee said:

 If only my father had barracked for Hawthorn.

HERESY!!!  Wash your mouth out with soap immediately!!!

(And follow it up with some counselling, as you are clearly delusional!  Or, as our generation is more likely to do,  just have a few stiff whiskies...!)

16 minutes ago, Vagg said:

HERESY!!!  Wash your mouth out with soap immediately!!!

(And follow it up with some counselling, as you are clearly delusional!  Or, as our generation is more likely to do,  just have a few stiff whiskies...!)

The simple fact I am still a Dees supporter/member after 55 years of crap shows I am beyond counselling Vagg.

in fact I have a feeling councilling would suggest removing the problem area which I am clearly not able to achieve. 

As for the single malt not even the MFC can lessen my enjoyment of a wee dram or two.

5 minutes ago, old dee said:

The simple fact I am still a Dees supporter/member after 55 years of crap shows I am beyond counselling Vagg.

in fact I have a feeling councilling would suggest removing the problem area which I am clearly not able to achieve. 

As for the single malt not even the MFC can lessen my enjoyment of a wee dram or two.

lobotomy?

5 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

lobotomy?

What position does he play?

1 hour ago, old dee said:

The simple fact I am still a Dees supporter/member after 55 years of crap shows I am beyond counselling Vagg.

in fact I have a feeling councilling would suggest removing the problem area which I am clearly not able to achieve. 

As for the single malt not even the MFC can lessen my enjoyment of a wee dram or two.

Only 55 years??!!!  Mate!!  I thought you were an OLD bloke (like me).  Turns out you are still wet behind the ears!  Give it another 10 years and you'll be REALLY bitter & twisted (kinda like me!)

1 hour ago, old dee said:

What position does he play?

Who cares?  If he plays like his cousin Sidebotomy, we'll take him!

21 minutes ago, Vagg said:

Only 55 years??!!!  Mate!!  I thought you were an OLD bloke (like me).  Turns out you are still wet behind the ears!  Give it another 10 years and you'll be REALLY bitter & twisted (kinda like me!)

I said after 55 years of crap Vagg I left out the five previous years of heaven.