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Either the umpires hate Melbourne or there is cheating going on, we have been shafted most games this year and last year, even at the mcg in our home games, how can they keep getting away with it?

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Correction. The umps have been diabolical in every game this year, even the ones we're not in. It becomes more noticeable when we're losing.

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Until we are ladder leaders, consistently, drawing very large crowds, regularly, and dominating onfield for 100 minutes, no green snot goblin is going to allow us to play football without their little (and costly) power trips punctuating an 'evening-up' for the sake of the spectacle. What the Eagles got away with relative to the Dees in the game last night was mostly unfair and slanted. By three-quarter time, the game should have already been over in the Dees' favour - but the Perth crowd beyed for more and so  the umpires gave. Nearly 100% of that crowd left the ground happy with what the AFL had presented to them. There will be no second thoughts. 

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Human nature. You are working in Perth, everyone you meet excluding Freo people want WC to win. You get to the ground and 50,000 people cheer your every good decision in their favour and jeer every one against. And then one side is Premiers and another is, well, you know. Who do you think will get the best deal.

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49 minutes ago, don cordner said:


Either the umpires hate Melbourne or there is cheating going on, we have been shafted most games this year and last year, even at the mcg in our home games, how can they keep getting away with it?

don - why either and not both? :unsure:

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The last quarter in particular there were a few non-calls but kicking 9.15 - I'm not blaming the umps.

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8 minutes ago, 3Dee said:

The last quarter in particular there were a few non-calls but kicking 9.15 - I'm not blaming the umps.

I don't think anyone is downplaying the kicking which gave the WCE a chance.  But it's hard not to believe that with better umpiring in Q4, we may have won nevertheless (assuming we kicked straight from the 50m penalty, the unrealistic mark, the sling tackle etc etc) 

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I've been noting the impressive body of work of Dean Margetts for some time now and I thought he was just terrific last night. With almost cat-like reflexes he saw an opportunity to halt Melbourne's momentum (yes, we weren't helping ourselves) and he did so with bewitching guile. Couldn't blow the whistle fast enough  to give WC the advantage. It wasn't just the free kicks paid to West Coke, it was the missed throws and blocks, and, by the end, an absolute failure to show any impartiality whatsoever. He may as well have put on a WC Guernsey and punched the sky when the final siren sounded.

Is the AFL so tight arsed that it can't, in a National competition, use an umpire who didn't grow up barracking for the team he's officiating (and by officiating I mean kissing on the dock).

Razor Ray may be a [censored] but he's an impartial one. Actually, take that back and leave it at '[censored]'.

 

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41 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

I've been noting the impressive body of work of Dean Margetts for some time now and I thought he was just terrific last night. With almost cat-like reflexes he saw an opportunity to halt Melbourne's momentum (yes, we weren't helping ourselves) and he did so with bewitching guile. Couldn't blow the whistle fast enough  to give WC the advantage. It wasn't just the free kicks paid to West Coke, it was the missed throws and blocks, and, by the end, an absolute failure to show any impartiality whatsoever. He may as well have put on a WC Guernsey and punched the sky when the final siren sounded.

Is the AFL so tight arsed that it can't, in a National competition, use an umpire who didn't grow up barracking for the team he's officiating (and by officiating I mean kissing on the dock).

Razor Ray may be a [censored] but he's an impartial one. Actually, take that back and leave it at '[censored]'.

 

It's not in the AFL's interest to ensure the game is umpired fairly to offer an even competition RTG.  It is now a very big business and the AFL are out to ensure their brand is being grown and protected in the preferred manner / direction required to maximise profits.  The Eagles are no doubt high on their brand priority list.  We are probably sitting somewhere in their bottom four.

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59 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

I've been noting the impressive body of work of Dean Margetts for some time now and I thought he was just terrific last night. With almost cat-like reflexes he saw an opportunity to halt Melbourne's momentum (yes, we weren't helping ourselves) and he did so with bewitching guile. Couldn't blow the whistle fast enough  to give WC the advantage. It wasn't just the free kicks paid to West Coke, it was the missed throws and blocks, and, by the end, an absolute failure to show any impartiality whatsoever. He may as well have put on a WC Guernsey and punched the sky when the final siren sounded.

Is the AFL so tight arsed that it can't, in a National competition, use an umpire who didn't grow up barracking for the team he's officiating (and by officiating I mean kissing on the dock).

Razor Ray may be a [censored] but he's an impartial one. Actually, take that back and leave it at '[censored]'.

 

Despite the one eyed parochialism of the crowd I heard at least two “he threw it” comments  from WC fans behind me when Darling threw it and they got the goal that buried us. We were 150 metres away and I saw it and all the WC supporters saw it. But no umpires did and there were three of them a lot closer. 

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Watching Cats v Dogs. Tuohy just kicked in from FB. Didn’t play on. OOB without being touched. Nobody even near it .....THROW IN! That sums up the competency of umpiring at the moment.

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Just now, ProperDee said:

Watching Cats v Dogs. Tuohy just kicked in from FB. Didn’t play on. OOB without being touched. Nobody even near it .....THROW IN! That sums up the competency of umpiring at the moment.

Deliverance Park is probably the only other ground that comes close in providing blatant partiality.

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Your all so sad...you seriously want to blame the umpires for Melbourne loss. Think the likes of hawthorn, Geelong, Sydney would blame the umpires for a loss. Accept were garbage and deserve a bottom 4 finish. 

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Errrr... it’s “You’re”, “Hawthorn” and “we’re”. 

Guess English grammar isn’t taught in Grade 4 in Panama?  Maybe get mum to help.

 

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1 hour ago, Rusty Nails said:

It's not in the AFL's interest to ensure the game is umpired fairly to offer an even competition RTG.  It is now a very big business and the AFL are out to ensure their brand is being grown and protected in the preferred manner / direction required to maximise profits.  The Eagles are no doubt high on their brand priority list.  We are probably sitting somewhere in their bottom four.

Below is an extract from a petition being promoted by Freo supporters regarding the local "derby".

 

Enough is Enough!

Fremantle Dockers supporters have long known the umpiring bias displayed by the terrible 2, Margetts & Daglish at every WA AFL derby. Both self proclaimed West Coast Eagles fans and both having no shame in socialising and publicly displaying their love for the West Coast Eagles, why does the Fremantle Football Club and the AFL continue to allow this ongoing and disgraceful umpiring bias derby after derby?

Sunday 29 April was one of the most disgusting displays of blatant and bias umpiring ever witnessed in a professional game of AFL. It was the tipping point for all Dockers fans and this is their call to action.

All Dockers fans respectfully request that both Dean Margetts and Jeff Daglish are no longer allocated to umpire the Western derby games. Dockers fans will even go as far as to commit to paying a $1 umpiring tax on their tickets for all derby games, in order for the AFL to fly and accommodate a neutral umpiring team that are no way conflicted. We cannot accept or allow conflicted umpires who publicly support an AFL team, to regularly officiate and make decisions that have many times changed the momentum of games to their team, the West Coast Eagles advantage.

ENOUGH is ENOUGH, no more Margetts and no more Daglish for WA AFL derby games pleas

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6 minutes ago, dworship said:

Below is an extract from a petition being promoted by Freo supporters regarding the local "derby".

 

Enough is Enough!

Fremantle Dockers supporters have long known the umpiring bias displayed by the terrible 2, Margetts & Daglish at every WA AFL derby. Both self proclaimed West Coast Eagles fans and both having no shame in socialising and publicly displaying their love for the West Coast Eagles, why does the Fremantle Football Club and the AFL continue to allow this ongoing and disgraceful umpiring bias derby after derby?

Sunday 29 April was one of the most disgusting displays of blatant and bias umpiring ever witnessed in a professional game of AFL. It was the tipping point for all Dockers fans and this is their call to action.

All Dockers fans respectfully request that both Dean Margetts and Jeff Daglish are no longer allocated to umpire the Western derby games. Dockers fans will even go as far as to commit to paying a $1 umpiring tax on their tickets for all derby games, in order for the AFL to fly and accommodate a neutral umpiring team that are no way conflicted. We cannot accept or allow conflicted umpires who publicly support an AFL team, to regularly officiate and make decisions that have many times changed the momentum of games to their team, the West Coast Eagles advantage.

ENOUGH is ENOUGH, no more Margetts and no more Daglish for WA AFL derby games pleas

Dworship we should do the same ....D'land petition to both the club and the AFL requesting that these two cheats are removed from ever umpiring a game involving the Eagles.

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14 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Dworship we should do the same ....D'land petition to both the club and the AFL requesting that these two cheats are removed from ever umpiring a game involving the Eagles.

In every job I've ever had, the policy on conflict of interest has been clear, that is; it's prohibited or you must excuse yourself. This is true even if it is only a potential conflict. I'm sure the 2 Umpires in question (and supported by the AFL) would say they have integrity so there isn't any problem. Then again the AFL is run by a Dill.

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7 hours ago, don cordner said:


Either the umpires hate Melbourne or there is cheating going on, we have been shafted most games this year and last year, even at the mcg in our home games, how can they keep getting away with it?

I heard that there was two local WA umpires in control of the game...  if thas was correct,  surely the AFL should change this ratio... 2 out of 3,  IS  bad.

I would hope that Only one local umpire should be used, for interstate matches.

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1 hour ago, Panamapapers said:

Your all so sad...you seriously want to blame the umpires for Melbourne loss. Think the likes of hawthorn, Geelong, Sydney would blame the umpires for a loss. Accept were garbage and deserve a bottom 4 finish. 

Duh

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2 minutes ago, DV8 said:

I heard that there was two local WA umpires in control of the game...  if thas was correct,  surely the AFL should change this ratio... 2 out of 3,  IS  bad.

I would hope that Only one local umpire should be used, for interstate matches.

There is a reason International Cricket now has a NO local umpire on the field rule.

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Gee if we are all going to be honest lets admit we have all hated this club at times.

The are the annoying little brother you love that often dissappoints.

I do believe we will win several flags in the next decade but  until then I reserve the right to dump on them.

The simple fact is umpires are prone to be influenced by larger cr o wd support discrepancies. 

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