Shaun Smith not happy with Joel's medical treatment.

[dazzledavey36 55,451]

He has every right to be angered..

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/melbourne/shaun-smith-father-for-demon-joel-smith-takes-aim-at-melbournes-fitness-department-on-facebook/news-story/ba5bbf8adcfb07f2420cc1b3af91a7f2

 

[At the break of Gawn 4,460]

Understandable...

[DistrACTION Jackson 9,532]

We can't stay out of the news at the moment...... it was a very strange decision to keep playing him in a praccy match and I think Mahoney needs to do some explaining.

[Demonland 73,234]

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He has every right to be angered..

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/melbourne/shaun-smith-father-for-demon-joel-smith-takes-aim-at-melbournes-fitness-department-on-facebook/news-story/ba5bbf8adcfb07f2420cc1b3af91a7f2

From the article:

Responding to other messages on Facebook, [Shaun] Smith said: “Clearly the conditioning is not up to scratch and players who have had opps (operations) have not been managed well”.

“Guess whose fault is that?

“Don’t even get me started about the mismanagement of my son.”

and then ...

The Herald Sun understands Joel Smith is frustrated by his injury but is not unhappy with the management of it by club medicos.

Melbourne is aware of his father’s comments.

 

[Demon Disciple 12,312]

He's not wrong.

[DeeZee 7,445]

This is getting interesting.

Seems like Misso has a lot to answer for.

[At the break of Gawn 4,460]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/shaun-smith-father-of-joel-slams-melbourne-football-club-fitness-department-on-social-media/news-story/15dbebc4afc8c19ae2668b3c9461c02d

Tom Morris also reporting it via Fox Sports. At least it’s not behind a pay wall.

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

“In true AFL style protecting his (Misson’s) job,” Smith wrote last Thursday in reference to a Fairfax article explaining why Misson warned the club’s board in the pre-season.

“Surely he is not going get up there and say it’s his fault" ...

 

Wonder how Pert's diary is looking right now? ?

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,785]

3 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/shaun-smith-father-of-joel-slams-melbourne-football-club-fitness-department-on-social-media/news-story/15dbebc4afc8c19ae2668b3c9461c02d

Tom Morris also reporting it via Fox Sports. At least it’s not behind a pay wall.

Social media has made these journalists' jobs a lot easier these days

[poita 3,902]

Does the club actually care what is being said about it in the media, or are the key individuals all bunkering down protecting their own backsides?

What do the sponsors think of what seems to be a complete lack of professionalism and accountability at the club in certain respects this season?

The last thing we need is the parents of players having reason to doubt that their sons are being looked after properly.

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,785]

Shaun is not Robinson Crusoe on this one!

[Soidee 1,496]

Get on the bike MFC!  This has been a problem for years.  Pert needs to find the best in the business to fix and get our list fit!  AND stay fit!

Edited May 7, 2019 by Soidee

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084]

Was waiting for something to give, surprised it took this long. Joel was sent back on and not taken of when injured.

[whatwhat say what 23,052]

echoing what every supporter has said; worse thing it's coming from a former player and father of a current one himself!

we really do manage to shoot ourselves in the foot as a club at the earliest opportunity

 

[drdrake 3,187]

I would be more upset with the coaching staff that made him play on one leg in a preseason game

[Wells 11 5,433]

10 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Was waiting for something to give, surprised it took this long. Joel was sent back on and not taken of when injured.

Me too. Misso has made some really big blunders. Trengove and Viney the biggest ...but how big are they! Too many Players were not prepared fr the start of this season  and, operations or no, he’s got a case to answer. Joel Smith is just further proof here. u don’t need a sports science degree to have seen Joel smith should never have come bk on. No wonder Shaun is [censored], it’s his sons career on the line here. 

 

[binman 44,098]

7 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

. u don’t need a sports science degree to have seen Joel smith should never have come bk on. 

 

Probably helps if you want to have an informed opinion on it though.

[DV8 2,271]

33 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

“In true AFL style protecting his (Misson’s) job,” Smith wrote last Thursday in reference to a Fairfax article explaining why Misson warned the club’s board in the pre-season.

“Surely he is not going get up there and say it’s his fault" ...

 

Wonder how Pert's diary is looking right now? ?

http://demonwiki.org/David+Misson

[TGR 1,367]

39 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

This is getting interesting.

Seems like Misso has a lot to answer for.

Misso is the tip of the iceberg.

[DV8 2,271]

15 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

echoing what every supporter has said; worse thing it's coming from a former player and father of a current one himself!

we really do manage to shoot ourselves in the foot as a club at the earliest opportunity

 

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-port-adelaide-power--jack-trengove

[DeeZee 7,445]

8 minutes ago, TGR said:

Misso is the tip of the iceberg.

Are you saying it all came from the coach?

[TGR 1,367]

3 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Are you saying it all came from the coach?

Read what I have been saying for years about our medical department and decisions regarding Viney's foot, May's groin, Viney's shoulder and now Smith.

 

When an outsider can clearly see incompetent decision-making (putting injured players back on in dead rubbers), something is very wrong.

[Redleg 41,702]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

From the article:

Responding to other messages on Facebook, [Shaun] Smith said: “Clearly the conditioning is not up to scratch and players who have had opps (operations) have not been managed well”.

“Guess whose fault is that?

“Don’t even get me started about the mismanagement of my son.”

and then ...

The Herald Sun understands Joel Smith is frustrated by his injury but is not unhappy with the management of it by club medicos.

Melbourne is aware of his father’s comments.

 

What else could Joel say publicly.

He is listed as 6-8 weeks and if it is 8,  that is 70% of the season he will have missed.

If it is the club's fault, then you can understand why his father is furious, as would Joel be, privately, you would imagine.

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,033]

Why was Joel brought back onto the ground (JLT 2) when he was grimacing in pain while doing a fitness test along the boundary line in the second qtr. It might not have been captured on film but I saw it at the ground.

Goodwin claimed it was due to rotations, however Richmond set a precedent in 2016 by playing 1 or 2 players short in the last quarter of a pre season game V's Port at Etihad and the AFL community were cool and understanding of that. Why didn't we do likewise?

The footy club stuffed up and need to own the mistake and ensure it doesn't happen again as Joel has wasted 50 to 75% of what was supposed to be a promising year for him.

[DeeZee 7,445]

Sounds like Goodwin stuffed up by deciding to put an injured player back on the ground.

The issue is whether that decision was made with medical advice, and was that advice incorrect.