CASEY DEMONS V FOOTSCRAY VFL - Round 5

[bing181 8,357]

20 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Watch the last qtr again.

No. Confirmation bias. You're taking examples that illustrate your point, while ignoring ones that contradict it.

Watch the whole game, and assess it in its globality. He had double the number of 1%ers as anyone else, and was in the top half dozen for marks, 3rd for rebound 50's. Sure, he made a couple of mistakes and didn't dominate, but not he's Robinson Crusoe in that regard.

[monoccular 16,610]

On 5/2/2019 at 11:24 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

Tom Boyd and the Weid..... a certain amount of disappointing symmetry

May they run free and both kick 10

Well preferably not both, but Weid yes. 

1 hour ago, Salems Lot said:

Hate calling our players spuds; they give their heart and soul for the jumper and may not be up to it but it is so disrespectful to talk about them like that. 

Exactly.  But then respect doesn’t seem to be a modern anti-social media trait.  

[KC from Casey 6,756]

3QT Bulldogs by 25 points but Casey has the wind behind it coming home.

[KC from Casey 6,756]

Dogs get the first to make it a tough ask.

[KC from Casey 6,756]

Goal to Munro but I fear - too late.

[KC from Casey 6,756]

And Dogs get another back.

[DeeZone 8,147]

Damn - Come on Casey............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS( drunken167 was that you in the middle of the Dee's players singing the song.........!!!!!, Dec was good on debut)

[KC from Casey 6,756]

Sam Weidemann has 2. The difference is 24 points.

[Dee-licious 1,867]

Weiderman best on for us. Has had a really solid game. Could have been a lot better with 2.3 but has been all around the ground, taken some good marks, hit some great kicks. If he had the 4 goals he really should have had, we would have been talking about him coming back next week. Probably another game in the 2's to build up the confidence. He really is a cut above at this level, however, he really is doing all the work himself, whereas in the AFL he relies more on people hitting him on the chest. 

[KC from Casey 6,756]

Two goals, three behinds to to the Weid who has booked a ticket to the Gold Coast.

[Diamond_Jim 12,097]

5 hours ago, KC from Casey said:

Two goals, three behinds to to the Weid who has booked a ticket to the Gold Coast.

Great to hear. A solid game against the suns might be just what he needs. 

[old dee 23,256]

5 hours ago, KC from Casey said:

Two goals, three behinds to to the Weid who has booked a ticket to the Gold Coast.

Who are you dropping KC? 

Thanks for the reports. 

[KC from Casey 6,756]

Final Siren and the Dogs run out winners by 17 points.

2019 Hard Yakka / Totally Workwear VFL

Casey Demons 2.2.14 5.7.37 5.8.38 8.11.59

Footscray VFL 4.2.26 5.4.34 9.9.63 11.10.76

Goals

Casey Demons Baker Weideman 2 Chandler Munro Quigley White 

Footscray VFL Boyd 3 Cavarra Gardner 2 Barnett Lipinski Nash  West 

Best

Casey Demons C Wagner Sparrow Petty T Freeman Baker Quigley

Footscray VFL Williams Young West Smith Scott Boyd

Statistics 

Oskar Baker 2 goals 1 behind 15 kicks 5 handballs 20 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 99 dream team points  
Toby Bedford 1 kick 2 handballs 3 disposals 1 mark 2 tackles 15 dream team points  
Jaxon Briggs 5 kicks 7 handballs 12 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 34 dream team points  
Kade Chandler 1 goal 5 kicks 2 handballs 7 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 44 dream team points  
Wayne Collis 4 kicks 1 handball 5 disposals 1 mark 7 tackles 1 hit out 44 dream team points  
Jake Di Pasquale 9 kicks 11 handballs 20 disposals 2 marks 5 tackles 75 dream team points  
Tom Freeman 12 kicks 4 handballs 16 disposals 7 marks 1 tackles 70 dream team points  
Mitch Gent 6 kicks 6 handballs 12 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 48 dream team points  
Jack Hutchins 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 3 marks 28 dream team points  
James Jordon 13 kicks 6 handballs 19 disposals 6 marks 3 tackles 81 dream team points  
Mykelti Lefau 1 behind 8 kicks 3 handballs 11 disposals 1 marks 4 tackles 4 hit outs 55 dream team points  
Mitchell Lewis 1 behind 8 kicks 7 handballs 15 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 60 dream team points  
Nick Lowden 5 kicks 2 handballs 7 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 33 dream team points  
James Munro 1 goal 9 kicks 12 handballs 21 disposals 5 marks 6 tackles 88 dream team points  
Harrison Petty 10 kicks 6 handballs 16 disposals 8 marks 2 tackles 71 dream team points  
Aidan Quigley 1 goal 9 kicks 8 handballs 17 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles 74 dream team points  
Charlie Spargo 8 kicks 7 handballs 15 disposals 5 marks 4 tackles 59 dream team points  
Tom Sparrow 1 behind 14 kicks 7 handballs 21 disposals 1 marks 6 tackles 82 dream team points  
Cory Stockdale 7 kicks 2 handballs 9 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles 47 dream team points  
Corey Wagner 16 kicks 9 handballs 25 disposals 6 marks 5 tackles 104 dream team points  
Liam Wale-Buxton 1 behind 2 kicks 2 handballs 4 disposals 2 marks 3 tackles 22 hit outs 48 dream team points  
Sam Weideman 2 goals 3 behinds 13 kicks 8 handballs 21 disposals 7 marks 2 tackles 6 hit outs 108 dream team points  
Mitchell White 1 goal 1 behind 7 kicks 3 handballs 10 disposals 5 marks 2 tackles 55 dream team points  

[DeeSpencer 23,642]

36 minutes ago, bing181 said:

No. Confirmation bias. You're taking examples that illustrate your point, while ignoring ones that contradict it.

Watch the whole game, and assess it in its globality. He had double the number of 1%ers as anyone else, and was in the top half dozen for marks, 3rd for rebound 50's. Sure, he made a couple of mistakes and didn't dominate, but not he's Robinson Crusoe in that regard.

They are pretty selective and limited stats. He had 3 intercept possessions, the equal lowest of any of our defenders with Wagner and only 108 metres gained. So the marks and rebound 50's are mostly coming because he sets up for the short kick out or sideways kick then gets the ball from back 50. He had an exceptionally limited attacking game, which is a concern because he has the size and skills to take more intercept marks and to get involved in rebounding the ball with counter attacking play. He'll never be a defensive star so a two way game gives him the best chance of contributing each week.

The 1%ers come from spoils and he was better yesterday at getting some decent spoils. Some of those should be marks against the likes of Mitch Lewis and Roughead - both limited key forwards - but at least he wasn't conceding marks when matched up on those guys.

At the end of the day he's in the team ahead of Petty because he runs hard and smartly to get to the right defensive spots and on good days he can spoil the ball, plus he doesn't turn it over as he uses it safely. All the stats in combination point to the style that he plays.

Petty reads the ball better to mark, but that means he can be caught or pushed under the ball. He has a more natural counter game by taking intercept marks and a nice penetrating short kick, plus good handball skills on both sides. But he can't string together a good month at VFL, he's far too up and down. Until he puts together a consistent run of games he's too risky to pick. He wouldn't be directly replacing Oscar anyway, he'd be put in more of an intercepting role which would mean Hore and Frost would have to be reshuffled/replaced. With Lever hopefully not too far away and Lewis in the side now the last thing we need is another intercept player who struggles to defend. Oscar is only an mediocre defender but he at least positions himself to do that defensive job.

[KC from Casey 6,756]

7 minutes ago, old dee said:

Who are you dropping KC? 

Thanks for the reports. 

I’ll leave that for the folks on the Changes thread.

[John Demonic 4,972]

29 minutes ago, KC from Casey said:

Final - Dogs by 17 points.

2019 Hard Yakka / Totally Workwear VFL

Casey Demons 2.2.14 5.7.37 5.8.38 8.11.59

Footscray VFL 4.2.26 5.4.34 9.9.63 11.10.76

Goals

Casey Demons Baker Weideman 2 Chandler Munro Quigley White 

2 goals to Baker eh? How did he play overall?

[buck_nekkid 5,633]

42 minutes ago, old dee said:

Who are you dropping KC? 

Thanks for the reports. 

Suggest Fritsch could do with a week back and do a straight swap for Weids.

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, Dee-licious said:

whereas in the AFL he relies more on people hitting him on the chest. 

Probably a result of a dysfunctional team.

Now the side is finding some fitness, form will follow and will be better for forwards.

[jnrmac 19,485]

2 hours ago, bing181 said:

No. Confirmation bias. You're taking examples that illustrate your point, while ignoring ones that contradict it.

Watch the whole game, and assess it in its globality. He had double the number of 1%ers as anyone else, and was in the top half dozen for marks, 3rd for rebound 50's. Sure, he made a couple of mistakes and didn't dominate, but not he's Robinson Crusoe in that regard.

I wasn't making a point. Simply saying watch the last qtr again.

But seeing as you have raised it he was quite sound in the 3rd qtr buthe last when the game was on the line was deplorable and frankly unacceptable. When the game is up for grabs I want players who will put their body on the line and show desperation for the ball.

Can you sau OMac did that in the last? Nup.

Give me a player who attacks the ball with ferocity. Not the wet lettuce like OMac. He simply isn't dependable and rarely beats his man, He has no defining traits as a footballer and is slow of body and mind. 

Other than that he is great.

[Diamond_Jim 12,097]

Hi KC mentioned 3 goals to Weid but I see the match report only lists 2.

Dee-Licious posted earlier that he had 2 goals 3 behinds and was playing well.

Looking forward to the final match report.

[whatwhat say what 20,336]

2 hours ago, Dee-licious said:

Weiderman best on for us. Has had a really solid game. Could have been a lot better with 2.3 but has been all around the ground, taken some good marks, hit some great kicks. If he had the 4 goals he really should have had, we would have been talking about him coming back next week. Probably another game in the 2's to build up the confidence. He really is a cut above at this level, however, he really is doing all the work himself, whereas in the AFL he relies more on people hitting him on the chest. 

I think as his confidence has suffered he’s stopped ‘doing the work’ that it sounds like he was back to doing today

I still reckon our best forward structure can accommodate him, Preuss and T Mac all together

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

4 hours ago, Salems Lot said:

Hate calling our players spuds; they give their heart and soul for the jumper and may not be up to it but it is so disrespectful to talk about them like that. 

Well said. They do give their heart and soul for the club and dont deserve to be labeled with derogatory names. Childish.

[dazzledavey36 49,742]

Casey Demons

Goal Kickers:S. Weideman 2, O. Baker 2, K. Chandler, J. Munro, M. White, A. Quigley
Best Players:C. Wagner, T. Sparrow, H. Petty, T. Freeman, O. Baker, A. Quigley

Footscray

Goal Kickers:T. Boyd 3, R. Gardner 2, B. Cavarra 2, L. Nash, R. West, P. Lipinski, S. Barnett
Best Players:B. Williams, L. Young, R. West, R. Smith, A. Scott, T. Boyd

[Docs Demons 1,682]

Looking at this it appears Spargo did next to nothing again.

[Dee Zephyr 18,214]

5 minutes ago, Docs Demons said:

Looking at this it appears Spargo did next to nothing again.

Sounds like it. The ‘Around the state leagues’ report on the AFL site has him with 15 possessions and being relatively quiet.