9 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

not sure how the stats disprove my assessment actually. 

That says more about you than the stats. 

19 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Once someone is linked to a hawks you might as well walk away.. They are so ruthless and just know how to get the job done.

Yes. If the Hawks are into him, he has already committed to them. It's almost as if the Hawks modus operandi is to instruct a player to get injured, pick him up cheap, then turn him into a gun.

15 minutes ago, Tony Tea said:

Yes. If the Hawks are into him, he has already committed to them. It's almost as if the Hawks modus operandi is to instruct a player to get injured, pick him up cheap, then turn him into a gun.

As others have pointed out the Hawks may think they have him stitched up but how are they going to compensate GWS for him? AFL rules say they can’t trade out their first round picks again this year. There’s a window of opportunity for us right there but it would require some seriously bold and aggressive trading on our part to trump the Hawks’ offer. 

Everyone thought May to Collingwood was a done deal last October until we shipped out Hogan and leapfrogged them on the checkers board. 

Nothing’s done until it’s done. And to concede that Clarkson can just waltz around and do as he pleases unchallenged is exactly the type of thinking that will keep a club like ours at the foot of the ladder.

Edited April 27, 20195 yr by Matsuo Basho

28 minutes ago, Tony Tea said:

Yes. If the Hawks are into him, he has already committed to them. It's almost as if the Hawks modus operandi is to instruct a player to get injured, pick him up cheap, then turn him into a gun.

If you were in his shoes which club would you join?

Not a hard one to answer.

26 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

As others have pointed out the Hawks may think they have him stitched up but how are they going to compensate GWS for him? AFL rules say they can’t trade out their first round picks again this year. There’s a window of opportunity for us right there but it would require some seriously bold and aggressive trading on our part to trump the Hawks’ offer. 

Everyone thought May to Collingwood was a done deal last October until we shipped out Hogan and leapfrogged them on the checkers board. 

Nothing’s done until it’s done. And to concede that Clarkson can just waltz around and do as he pleases unchallenged is exactly the type of thinking that will keep a club like ours at the foot of the ladder.

2020 First rounder + 2019 second rounder.

Take 2019 first rounder to draft, Steve Coniglio as FA.

They bring in Patton, Coniglio and 2019 first rounder. 

We have invested enough in the big boys, May, Lever, Weid, time to recruit more quality mids, it’s meant to be our strength but lack depth badly in this area..

10 minutes ago, Vineytime said:

We have invested enough in the big boys, May, Lever, Weid, time to recruit more quality mids, it’s meant to be our strength but lack depth badly in this area..

Coniglio no problem offer him plenty. 

We need top-flite class to aid our coalface players.

7 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

That says more about you than the stats. 

Indeed it does. 

14 hours ago, bringbackthebiff said:

Unfortunately we are bottom of the ladder. 

Thanks for the obvious. Relevance?

Edited April 27, 20195 yr by Moonshadow

Recruiting Patton maybe similar to other recruits, large price tag that rarely gets on the field.

Edited April 28, 20195 yr by Ugottobekidding

11 minutes ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Recruiting Patton maybe similar to other recruits, large price tag that rarely gets on the field.

$700k is not high stakes these days for a 25yo key forward. 

‘High price tag’ is the $1.2-1.5m it would take to get Jeremy Cameron’s manager to answer the phone. 

Patton’s injury history is a risk but again the Hawks aren’t baulking at it and Patton himself seems brimming with confidence.

Risk v Reward. 

The bigger risk is doing nowt and expecting a different outcome in 2020 IMO.

He fits the mandatory highly injury prone bill for our high priced recruitment, but he's actually a good player and plays a position we need. So we will pass. Plus it sounds like he wants to play for a decent team which rules us out. Only Gillies and Dawes-esque players would be attracted to this trainwreck.

13 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Thanks for the obvious. Relevance?

Relevance is we are on the bottom and need to consider change. Some of our best kicks play in defence and maybe it’s worth them distributing to the forwards - Salem is the best example. We generally win contested footy and inside 50s, but rarely do we have quality delivery into the forward line. It was just a thought 

1 minute ago, bringbackthebiff said:

Relevance is we are on the bottom and need to consider change. Some of our best kicks play in defence and maybe it’s worth them distributing to the forwards - Salem is the best example. We generally win contested footy and inside 50s, but rarely do we have quality delivery into the forward line. It was just a thought 

Sure. That's why I've been suggesting going hard for Cognilio as a FA and drafting Rowell or Anderson

25 Yo with 3 knee recos

People having a go at the club for getting Lever who ends up doing a knee again.

I can only imagine if Patton come over & done a knee!

 

 

Edited April 28, 20195 yr by Demonsone

2 hours ago, Demonsone said:

25 Yo with 3 knee recos

People having a go at the club for getting Lever who ends up doing a knee again.

I can only imagine if Patton come over & done a knee!

Yep, obvious isn't it.

But if Hawthorn are allegedly after him he must be fine... ??

2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Yep, obvious isn't it.

But if Hawthorn are allegedly after him he must be fine... ??

What an incredibly arrogant statement. Mocking a club that wins flags at the same rate as we win spoons. 

Edited April 28, 20195 yr by Matsuo Basho

The Hawks can have him.    Watch them play the Blues, they're getting flogged and their recruiting of injury prone players (O Meara, Scully etc ) will not end well for them.

2 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

The Hawks can have him.    Watch them play the Blues, they're getting flogged and their recruiting of injury prone players (O Meara, Scully etc ) will not end well for them.

Scully has done nothing for the hawks this year.

On 4/26/2019 at 9:56 PM, Moonshadow said:

The point is only you want Patton.

Why start a thread if you don't accept perfectly logical counter suggestions which happen to be right?

Oliver is our only clean A grader. Brayshaw's foot disposal is average, B grader. The rest are either perennially injured, not playing as mids or horrifically out of form. Open your eyes mate.

You're the type of poster who will watch the Hawk mids tear us a new one next week and still claim Patton is a better get than a free agent Cognilio!

Can't be bothered wasting any more time on this, C ya

Is Brashaw the same guy who polled third in last years Brownlow despite not playing AFL in the first couple of rounds? 

36 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Scully has done nothing for the hawks this year.

It was always going to catch up with Hawthorn, their lack of top picks over a string of years. They haven't got enough talent in their team.

Ironically, their game style is much better suited to the 'G than Tassie. They'll run rings around us next week, despite having a weak midfield. Their game style is so much better, particularly on the MCG.

The thing about Clarkson is they'll always be on the fringe of the 8 or the top 4, because of Clarkson's ability to establish a system that enables him to bring in average players to play 'system'. Their ability to rebuild will be based on trading and shrewd recruiting, because they won't have many top 10 picks.

Edited April 28, 20195 yr by A F

Knowing our luck if we were to prize Patton away from the dawks, he would do his knee before round one.

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

The Hawks can have him.    Watch them play the Blues, they're getting flogged and their recruiting of injury prone players (O Meara, Scully etc ) will not end well for them.

60 possessions between them & 2 goals mmmmmm really

Wingard 2 goals & 15 poss

Edited April 28, 20195 yr by Demonsone

4 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

60 possessions between them & 2 goals mmmmmm really

Wingard 2 goals & 15 poss

They’ve got no idea have they. One recruiting blunder after another.

12 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

They’ve got no idea have they. One recruiting blunder after another.

They just seem to get it right more times than others, yet the MFC get it wrong most times!