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I'd like to see how May, Lever & Frost function together and how that impacts on TMAC & Weid with Hannan, VDB and "the crumbers", before chasing a forward that comes at a big price...

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15 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

If you think the quality of entries is the sole reason Weid and TMac can’t mark the footy you’ve got rocks in your head. You’re way too forgiving.

Or maybe you’re right and that Clarko is a mug when it comes to recruiting.

Clarko has: 

Tom Mitchell

Omeara 

Impey 

Warpedo

Isaac Smith

Sheils  

$cully.

Strong rumour is they have Cognilio in their sights.

3 x A graders at least. 4 if they get Cognilio. 

With that midfield, of course they will also go for Patton to replace Roughy. It's a no brainer.

Do you even watch the game, mate???

Move on.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Clarko has: 

Tom Mitchell

Omeara 

Impey 

Warpedo

Isaac Smith

Sheils  

$cully.

Strong rumour is they have Cognilio in their sights.

3 x A graders at least. 4 if they get Cognilio. 

With that midfield, of course they will also go for Patton to replace Roughy. It's a no brainer.

Do you even watch the game, mate???

Move on.

 

 

Yeah I watch the game thanks for asking.

We’ve got:

Clarry

Gus

Viney

Harnes

Petracca

Salem

Hunt

3 A Graders there too with potential of 2 more and our sights set on who knows. 

Your point?

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3 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

Hawks are also going very hard for Coniglio. No doubt will get him too. [censored].

Coniglio will be 1 of these 3 next season 

A. Giant 

B. Docker

C. Blue

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9 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Yeah I watch the game thanks for asking.

We’ve got:

Clarry

Gus

Viney

Harnes

Petracca

Salem

Hunt

3 A Graders there too with potential of 2 more and our sights set on who knows. 

Your point? 

The point is only you want Patton.

Why start a thread if you don't accept perfectly logical counter suggestions which happen to be right?

Oliver is our only clean A grader. Brayshaw's foot disposal is average, B grader. The rest are either perennially injured, not playing as mids or horrifically out of form. Open your eyes mate.

You're the type of poster who will watch the Hawk mids tear us a new one next week and still claim Patton is a better get than a free agent Cognilio!

Can't be bothered wasting any more time on this, C ya

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59 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

The point is only you want Patton.

Why start a thread if you don't accept perfectly logical counter suggestions which happen to be right?

Oliver is our only clean A grader. Brayshaw's foot disposal is average, B grader. The rest are either perennially injured, not playing as mids or horrifically out of form. Open your eyes mate.

You're the type of poster who will watch the Hawk mids tear us a new one next week and still claim Patton is a better get than a free agent Cognilio!

Can't be bothered wasting any more time on this, C ya

Brayshaw a B grader? Mmmkay. Third in ‘18 Brownlow says you’re wrong. As would most knowledgeable pundits.

And correct me if I’m mistaken but I seem to recall our midfield putting  Hawthorn’s to the sword about seven games ago?

Im perfectly happy to read your counter suggestions but it’s you I’m afraid who’s been shown to have Swiss cheese holes in your logic.

Again, if he’s good enough for Clarko he’s good enough for ya. We should be making serious enquiries about Jonno Patton.

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2 hours ago, olisik said:

Wouldn’t Hawks need to fill their quota of first round draft picks taken? 

They won't need a first round pick, third will get it done

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1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Thanks for proving my point 

Name one of our mids with A grade foot skills, partic inside 50 delivery? Oliver comes closest, but no cigar. Salem and Fritter are playing back. The rest are average to poor. What hope do our forwards have?

Cognilio and Rowell/Anderson/Young would be a massive improvement going inside 50

Patton can't get on the park, would command $800k pa and cost a 1st round pick in trade. But sure, I'll go with your call.

FMD...

 

Unrelated to this topic but that gets me thinking, why don’t we try a few of our best ball users to distribute to the forwards - Fritsch, Salem, Melksham etc. Currently it’s painful watching some of forwards leading and it goes directly to an out of position opposition player

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Go for Levi he comes for nothing

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1 minute ago, bringbackthebiff said:

Unrelated to this topic but that gets me thinking, why don’t we try a few of our best ball users to distribute to the forwards - Fritsch, Salem, Melksham etc. Currently it’s painful watching some of forwards leading and it goes directly to an out of position opposition player

Melksham played some time in the midfield on Wednesday, and looked ok early on. By quarter time I thought he was doing well. Faded like the rest of the team

Unfortunately, Salem and Fritter are needed in the backline to distribute. Lewis, Hibbert, Frost and Hunt cannot be trusted to kick the ball with any degree of reliability. Lewis spends most of his time on hands and knees

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Just now, WERRIDEE said:

Go for Levi he comes for nothing

And offers little more than that.

He's also 29

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11 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Go for Levi he comes for nothing

Yep.. go for a 29 year old hack you cant kick straight.

Thank [censored] your not in charge of list management Werripee.

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I think we should throw everything at Paton...

I mean just what we need is another big money recruit who can't get on the park.

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35 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Go for Levi he comes for nothing

No he has a bad knee - reliable source 

and can’t kick 

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8 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

Prefer Jeremy Cameron...

Has the edge over Patton where it counts playing as a key forward (career averages)...

> Marks inside 50 (elite)

> Marks on a lead (elite)

> Score involvements (6.4 per game!)

> Goals (2.6 per game... elite).  Finished 7th for average goals scored per game 2018 (just  behind T-Mac) and presently leading the Coleman.

Free agent.  No brainer.

Stats:  Courtesy of AFL Stats Pro

https://m.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/Compare?playerIds=CD_I291821,CD_I293845&comparisonTab=h2h

Not a free agent = Brainer. Sell the farm for Cameron as a 'pre-agent' a la May or compete in a crowded market? We don't have the draft credits to get it done so would have to trade out. Weid to Collingwood would be a start: may as well capitalise on McGuire's grand-pa/grandson fetish while he still has some influence. Pick 18 & 19 (exaggerated estimated Collingwood first and MFC second-rounder before adjustments) for Cameron might get it done a year ahead of f/a. Would you pay that?

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I'm amazed that many think Hawthug is somehow the measuring stick for what we should do in 2019 for an attack on the flag in 2020. That is the club we towelled up six months ago and consequently went out in straight sets, didn't make the finals in 2017 and went out in straight sets again in 2016. So they haven't won a final in three years . . . the same time they have taken money ball to a whole new level. (And for what it's worth . . . won't win a final in 2019 IMHO.) Anyone who thinks the Dorks currently have it sussed is living in an alternative reality (shoot . . . I realised I'm writing this on Demonland . . . the home of alternative reality). 

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1 hour ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

I'm amazed that many think Hawthug is somehow the measuring stick for what we should do in 2019 for an attack on the flag in 2020. That is the club we towelled up six months ago and consequently went out in straight sets, didn't make the finals in 2017 and went out in straight sets again in 2016. So they haven't won a final in three years . . . the same time they have taken money ball to a whole new level. (And for what it's worth . . . won't win a final in 2019 IMHO.) Anyone who thinks the Dorks currently have it sussed is living in an alternative reality (shoot . . . I realised I'm writing this on Demonland . . . the home of alternative reality). 

Hawthorn has been the measuring stick of what the MFC should do for the past 10? 20? 30? 40? hell let’s say 50 years.

I emphasise the word ‘should’. 

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9 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Melksham played some time in the midfield on Wednesday, and looked ok early on. By quarter time I thought he was doing well. Faded like the rest of the team

Unfortunately, Salem and Fritter are needed in the backline to distribute. Lewis, Hibbert, Frost and Hunt cannot be trusted to kick the ball with any degree of reliability. Lewis spends most of his time on hands and knees

Unfortunately we are bottom of the ladder. 

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5 hours ago, Skuit said:

Not a free agent = Brainer. Sell the farm for Cameron as a 'pre-agent' a la May or compete in a crowded market? We don't have the draft credits to get it done so would have to trade out. Weid to Collingwood would be a start: may as well capitalise on McGuire's grand-pa/grandson fetish while he still has some influence. Pick 18 & 19 (exaggerated estimated Collingwood first and MFC second-rounder before adjustments) for Cameron might get it done a year ahead of f/a. Would you pay that?

Yes.  You have to move heaven & a bit of earth sometimes to get what you want and obtain the ultimate prize.  The top line clubs have been doing this for decades.  Even the Bulldogs did it, once, and snared one!   We are still in a window if alot goes right from here.

Lets get it done Demons.

P.S. not the greatest brain at any point...especially with drafts/trade details!  Proceed with caution.

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15 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

As good as he is the greater priority for us is a key forward. Can’t go into 2020 with current personnel in the forward half. 

We will have a top 4 pick to draft a quick midfielder with. Quite possibly pick 1.

Look at the Pies. Cox and DeGoey. 

No way we’ll have pick 1.

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Great in theory, but way too risky.

Last thing we need is another big name recruit who can't get on the park.

We would have the strongest injury list spine in the AFL with May, Lever & Patton.

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3 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Hawthorn has been the measuring stick of what the MFC should do for the past 10? 20? 30? 40? hell let’s say 50 years.

I emphasise the word ‘should’. 

I was deliberate in my use of the word 'currently' MB.

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6 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

yeah . . . let's get a big, slow, one dimensional big man that runs to the wrong spots. Need one of them desperately.  

28 goals 2014

37 goals 2016

45 goals 2017

SuperCoach points and average marks taken per game climbed north every season bar periods out injured. 

And still only 25yo.

The raw stats don’t match your assessment. Nor Clarkson’s.

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14 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

28 goals 2014

37 goals 2016

45 goals 2017

SuperCoach points and average marks taken per game climbed north every season bar periods out injured. 

And still only 25yo.

The raw stats don’t match your assessment. Nor Clarkson’s.

not sure how the stats disprove my assessment actually. 

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