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20 hours ago, Deespicable said:

The big difference now is that we do have a strong group of middle-aged leaders to replace Jonesy, unlike in Junior's day.

Yes, and a fine job they're doing of it. Two years ago, Jack Viney was the one lining up guys for huge bumps. Now, he's caught prone. There's very little leadership out there, cutting the only one with demonstrated leadership experience would be a disaster.

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Have a friend who is a coach at Essendon. Can confirm this is one of the tactics they used. Another was his opponent streaming forward of the contest knowing Jones wouldn't/couldn't go with him. If we

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Look, I value Nate Jones and respect the bloke. But he's never been more than just a good footballer. Having him amongst the club's greats on the basis on loyalty alone, sure, but if he's classified a

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5 hours ago, america de cali said:

Hard to see Jones still being around if playing for one of the more successful clubs. Clarkson would have tapped him on the shoulder years ago. He has been the beneficiary of the botched exit of Junior Mac who still was a relavent contributor. He won’t go until he feels like it. It is damning he can’t see his time is up. Last season we could hide him because the side played really well. This season there is no where to hide him anymore. It is cringeworthy watching him plodding along and butchering  the ball on a regular basis. 

He came fourth in the best and fairest last year, for goodness sake. Are you honestly saying he wasn't best 22 on talent in 2018? 

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Nathan Jones is a legend of the MFC.

But, much like Lewis, in 2019 he does not have the athleticism to play on the wing or halfback. Given that is  where Goody is playing him it follows that he is not in our best 22. Look at who he lines up on. Most are speedy line breakers and that is the default for the wing in 2019. 

Goody needs to pick the best 22 regardless of reputation or status in the game.

 

 

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8 hours ago, america de cali said:

Hard to see Jones still being around if playing for one of the more successful clubs. Clarkson would have tapped him on the shoulder years ago. He has been the beneficiary of the botched exit of Junior Mac who still was a relavent contributor. He won’t go until he feels like it. It is damning he can’t see his time is up. Last season we could hide him because the side played really well. This season there is no where to hide him anymore. It is cringeworthy watching him plodding along and butchering  the ball on a regular basis. 

We couldn't really hide him in the second half of the season either. Those of us who watched him without the rose coloureds on were saying he should have hung them up at the end of last year, because he no longer had a place on the field.

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3 hours ago, Pirlo said:

Yes, and a fine job they're doing of it. Two years ago, Jack Viney was the one lining up guys for huge bumps. Now, he's caught prone. There's very little leadership out there, cutting the only one with demonstrated leadership experience would be a disaster.

The fact Jones is experienced is what's kept him in the side. Not his leadership. He's an incredibly poor onfield leader. His head drops immediately, he doesn't rally the troops and in fact, often contributes to a rot setting in. Or like in the case of the St Kilda game, starting the rot, with the first clearance, he kicks long into the arms of a waiting defender.

3 hours ago, Pirlo said:

He came fourth in the best and fairest last year, for goodness sake. Are you honestly saying he wasn't best 22 on talent in 2018? 

Yep, this was trotted out at the end of last year by Fifty-5 and co, whose nostalgia clearly got the better of them. He's past it. Most keen footy observers would concur, except for a few Melbourne supporters.

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Jones has been a warrior for the club, was only highlight thru a dark period.

i have the utmost respect for him but now it is time to retire, sadly he no longer has no influence in a game, beaten time and time again and not even offering strong leadership.

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One more year under similar conditions to Lewis this year and Bernie last before him.

Had a shocker today but has offered plenty in other matches.

Is no longer a 'walk-up' starter. 

 

 

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Has been playing on a wing which is where demon players go to die the way we move the pill.

I think he adds more on the HFF than Spargo/Garlett and adds more in the guts than Viney at present. 

Id just leave him as a forward. He’s quick enough in close and still hard as a cats scone. He just gets burnt in space and it’s hard to watch 

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Chuck him forward.Jones at least is willing to go back and have a set shot. 

We don't have any answers for our forwards until Melky is back, so chuck Jonesy forward to see what happens.

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On 4/26/2019 at 3:52 PM, A F said:

We couldn't really hide him in the second half of the season either. Those of us who watched him without the rose coloureds on were saying he should have hung them up at the end of last year, because he no longer had a place on the field.

It’s sad to see for sure but against the really quick sides he struggles badly.

Became evident in our StKilda game last year.

But the club now finds itself well and truly wedged. Is Viney Snr going to tell Viney junior to have a rest? Is the club going to pull up Jonesys career a few short of 300?

I don’t think so.

 

 

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It would be typical Melbourne if, in an attempt to gift Jonesy 300 games, we lost Brayshaw who doesnt like the wing and is better inside.

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On 4/9/2019 at 7:02 PM, picket fence said:

Succesful Clubs must make ruthless decisions. What would Clarko do???

Clarko has done it - already. Why reflect? 

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28 minutes ago, Dockett 32 said:

It’s sad to see for sure but against the really quick sides he struggles badly.

Became evident in our StKilda game last year.

But the club now finds itself well and truly wedged. Is Viney Snr going to tell Viney junior to have a rest? Is the club going to pull up Jonesys career a few short of 300?

I don’t think so.

 

 

I would be shocked if Viney Senior or Nathan Jones would put the interests of the club first.

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Jones played his best game of the year last week at half back. This week we drop Stretch (who isn't up to it but whatever) and put Jones back on to the wing, keep Wagner at half back.

I would've had Jones at half back and Stretch on the wing rather than Wagner.

There's a chance Nathan has one more year left in him at half back. A chance.

He shouldn't still be captain but I don't think that really matters all that much, he's earnt having that a year longer than he should've. 

With the midseason draft and preseason supplement period I'd have no issues keeping Jones for one more summer with the reality being if he's not performing he's at Casey or retires.

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42 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Jones played his best game of the year last week at half back. This week we drop Stretch (who isn't up to it but whatever) and put Jones back on to the wing, keep Wagner at half back.

I would've had Jones at half back and Stretch on the wing rather than Wagner.

There's a chance Nathan has one more year left in him at half back. A chance.

He shouldn't still be captain but I don't think that really matters all that much, he's earnt having that a year longer than he should've. 

With the midseason draft and preseason supplement period I'd have no issues keeping Jones for one more summer with the reality being if he's not performing he's at Casey or retires.

NO CHANCE HBF Retrirement only option!

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31 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Madden on the X box? Go for it Nate. Then in your twilight years you can try Tiger Woods PGA.

 

59 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Jones is On the Couch and said he wants to play for a few more years. FMD!

Jones has a secret weapon to keep him playing for the next few seasons.

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