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Spargo will play at his best when our midfield is up and firing. Believe it or not his worth is providing the spread forward of centre and not wrestling in marketing contests with opponents double his size, which kept happening to the poor guy on the weekend. 

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6 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

Frost 194 & Weid 196.

Kielty is listed 195 can play forward or back 

Can play minutes in the ruck and has a football brain which Frost doesn’t 

Was Casey’s best on Sunday 

Got a lot of praise from the Coach at the first and third quater huddle

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Stephen May in for Frost. Otherwise, no changes. We were 9 points up in the 3rd Quarter and looking good. We just looked like we did not have the pace in the heat to go with them. It was a similar story against West Coast in the Prelim.

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18 minutes ago, binman said:

By the by i thought Wagner did ok. Can kick, which is a pretty good start, and is hard at it. Pleasantly surprised by Sparrow, but one game doesn't make season. 

Wow! Saw what you did there. Quoting Aristotle is really raising the culture in this discussion. Bravo.

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3 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

Why not? Kolodjashnij comes in straight replacement for Hore and Petty who played well in the VFL according to Drunkin replaces Oscar the spud and May was always going to replace Frost. Any of those 3 stay in and spud up the side watch a belting. The midfield and forward line can improve those 3 can't.

As  I said you are sadly mistaken. If your midfield is getting beaten as was the case on saturday { and badly beaten } you will always lose the game regardless of who you playing in your back six.

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2 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

As  I said you are sadly mistaken. If your midfield is getting beaten as was the case on saturday { and badly beaten } you will always lose the game regardless of who you playing in your back six.

I understand that but 3 that I mentioned are not up to AFL level. We need to bring in players that can play May is one Kolodjashnij is another and they need to give Petty a go he can't be any worse than the spud we have at full back now.

May and Kolodjashnij will definitely play so Frost and Hore should make way. I'm not sure they will have the balls to play Petty so unfortunately I will have to vomit my through the game watching Oscar spud it up. I can't believe we have our very own Zac Dawson.

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5 hours ago, joeboy said:

Frost( 192cm) is listed as only marginally shorter than Weidemann ( 193cm) and has a body and agility far better suited to pinch hitting in the ruck.

May comes in for anyone, and plays in defense, whilst Frost relieves Max in the ruck and allows Weidemann to stay up forward and avoid heavy body collisions in the ruck.

 

Not a chance 'joeboy'...

Frost has been tried there before & failed.

...and you can't leave him forward when Max is in the ruck, again tried and a dismal failure.

Frost goes.

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2 minutes ago, rjay said:

Not a chance 'joeboy'...

Frost has been tried there before & failed.

...and you can't leave him forward when Max is in the ruck, again tried and a dismal failure.

Frost goes.

Agree 100%. Twice on the weekend he received the ball running at full speed and tried to change direction at full speed...both times were a complete failure. I have no doubt he tries his best but he is an athlete not a footballer. OMac is miles ahead as a footballer in my opinion. OMac is also a very underrated kick.

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16 minutes ago, dieter said:

Was dat Aristotle Oanassis?

 

Ha Ha! They are only a couple of thousand years apart! But Onassis does have a quote which is quite appropriate for these times-

"Remember, things are only as bad as you think they are."  Of course he was a billionaire, so that was easy for him to say!

 

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On 3/24/2019 at 3:35 PM, Clint Bizkit said:

If vandenBerg is out for the season then suddenly the loss of Kent hurts even more.

Why?

Kent would likely be on the injury list all year anyway, and if we brought him in we'd get his usual one good game for three bad ones.

Don't start re-writing history now.

22 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

After reading Drunkin 's report I have settled on 3 changes. Weid and Spargo very lucky.

INS: MAY, KOLODJASHNIJ, PETTY

OUTS: O.MCDONALD, FROST, HORE

EMERG: STRETCH, BAKER, KEILTY, PREUSS

I'd be prepared to put money on your changing your mind at least once between now and team selection.

13 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Hate to say it but I think Viney needs to be rested:  he played only about 2 1/2 quarters, when he tried to run it was barely trotting pace and when on field he didn't really impact the game.  He not only looked underdone, he looked injured.

We had 6-7 players whose on field time was managed down to about 3 quarters (surprisingly one of those was Jetta, hope he is ok) which puts enormous pressure on those that stay on longer than they should.  imv there is a limit to how many players in need of managed game time we take in.

Max needs help.  If Preuss plays as Goodwin suggested, it seems unlikely he can play 4 quarters (based on JLT) so who does he displace?  That depends if he goes forward or back when not in the ruck as we can't afford to have him on the bench for long stretches, especially if other players need managed game time. 

Based on club report Lewis' omission was precautionary rather than an injury so wouldn't be surprised to see him in.

In:  May, Lewis, Preuss (as Goodwin signalled)

Out:  Frost, Hore (sadly as I don't like to see players given only one game), Viney

and, there would need to be some re-balancing in positions as Preuss/Vine aren't like-for-like

The team needs time to settle and develop cohesion so any other changes will need to wait.

I read somewhere today that Lewis is out for a month? Is that right?

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On 3/23/2019 at 8:10 PM, titan_uranus said:

He didn't, really:

Brilliant ruckman Max Gawn played one of his poorest games in recent memory, being worked over by Port's duo of Paddy Ryder and Scott Lycett, while also copping plenty of physical attention.

Goodwin indicated he would look at bringing recruit Braydon Preuss into the side.

"It's something that we're used to. ‘Gawny’ gets targeted most weeks. Max will continue to get better," Goodwin said.

"He probably didn't play his best game today. We'll look to how we potentially support him better. We'll continually look at that as a match committee.

"Ultimately though, it's not something new. It's happened for a long time now. We'll just get better at it."

Thanks for that. @WERRIDEE has a bit of history with misinterpreting media and presenting his analysis as fact.

Meanwhile, I'd go Oscar out for May. Oscar was terrible on Hawkins because he's not quick enough to go with him. Frost is quick enough. Having Frost and May able to swing onto Hawkins will be handy, and then we'll need another defender with pace to counter Ratugolea.

Whilst I didn't think he was horrible, I'd also bring in Jeffy for Spargo.

ANB won't be dropped, but if KK was fit, I'd pull the trigger. ANB is still a very, very average footballer.

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5 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

I would like to see...

Keilty and May.

for

Hore and Omac.

and Viney must be in doubt...maybe Billy comes in.

 

Tough decision there SJ swapping a player who could not get the ball with one who cannot kick it. I would stay with Viney we know he is good enough. Stretch hmm hardly ever best 22. 

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9 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Does anyone know if the players are doing a light training session at old mates paddock on Friday? Or do they normally not train the day before a game? 

Looks like they don't play after training on Thursday or Friday this year ET.

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14 hours ago, Skuit said:

I agree in terms of predictions. But as to your who is ready at Casey question, it feels like Keilty hasn't missed a beat in a long while. Behind Petty last year (when Petty proved to be far from ready) and behind Hore this year - but consistently delivers in the VFL when he doesn't have a head-cold and looked up to it the JLT. Not sure what the kid is supposed to do? He has to be getting close.

Lewis, if fit, first back in.  -  Hore out

May straight back. - OMc.

Hunt from wing or h/forward...  pushing up past the wing to run & carry, & chase.  To use his run & pace both ways,  between the arcs.

 

FB/ Jetta - May - Jones

HB/ Hibbo - Petty/Keilty - Lewis

CL/ Salem - Brayshaw - Fritta

HF/ Melksham - TMc - Hunt

FF/ Preuss - Weide - Spargo

R/ Gawn - Oli - Harmes

 

Int from/ Petracca - Sparrow - ANB - cWagner - jWagner - Stretch - Lockhart

Em/ Omc/Frost/Hore/

 

 

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27 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Lewis, if fit, first back in.  -  Hore out

May straight back. - OMc.

Hunt from wing or h/forward...  pushing up past the wing to run & carry, & chase.  To use his run & pace both ways,  between the arcs.

 

FB/ Jetta - May - Jones

HB/ Hibbo - Petty/Keilty - Lewis

CL/ Salem - Brayshaw - Fritta

HF/ Melksham - TMc - Hunt

FF/ Preuss - Weide - Spargo

R/ Gawn - Oli - Harmes

 

Int from/ Petracca - Sparrow - ANB - cWagner - jWagner - Stretch - Lockhart

Em/ Omc/Frost/Hore/

 

 

Lewis is out for 3 to 4 weeks Kolodjashnij must come in.

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11 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Lewis is out for 3 to 4 weeks Kolodjashnij must come in.

Is he really.

I wouldn't bring Kolo in just yet, until the team has already found some mojo. He had a rough time with his own form with injuries at GCS, and form struggled.   Lets Not bring him into a struggling side, just for the sake of a week or two.

We have others who can run with the ball,  that can do the job, even if just short-term. I'd like to protect him initially.  Until he finds his way with us.  He is coming off some very sapping health issues.

A poor start in the team, could make things really tough for him to make a new go of it.  We're not in that desperate a position... atmo.

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7 hours ago, DV8 said:

Is he really.

I wouldn't bring Kolo in just yet, until the team has already found some mojo. He had a rough time with his own form with injuries at GCS, and form struggled.   Lets Not bring him into a struggling side, just for the sake of a week or two.

We have others who can run with the ball,  that can do the job, even if just short-term. I'd like to protect him initially.  Until he finds his way with us.  He is coming off some very sapping health issues.

A poor start in the team, could make things really tough for him to make a new go of it.  We're not in that desperate a position... atmo.

I don't wish to sound ungracious to Gold Coast, but the Melbourne that was struggling against PA is nothing like the Gold Coast that has been struggling all the time KK was with them. I don't know if he's ready to play, but if he is, he doesn't have to wait for the rest of the team to find form before he gets picked. It will still be a better team than what he has had to put up with over his career to date. 

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I still can't understand why the group thought is that Port won due to superior speed and we were tired etc. 

If you watch the entire game closely, you'll see that almost all of their length of the ground runs came from mistakes or bad kicks inside our forward 50.

We had so many opportunities to put the game to bed early and again we didn't. ANB. Twice. Unbelievable. 

Their first goal was from a brain fade from Harmes. Wasn't goal side of Boak at a stoppage from a throw-in at Ports 50. Unforgivable. It's under 15's stuff. 

The theme we have is that once we're ahead, it's as if we lose composure, patience and system and just expect it'll happen. 

They got easy goals early from our mistakes and then we just kept making them. 

They took advantage in the ruck around the ground when Gawn was off so once they hit even with us at the coal-face, the difference was skill execution and nothing else. 

Port's ability to hold the ball, draw players and then handball their way out of traffic was an enormous factor. 

The only other thing I was stunned by was the complete lack of intensity, aggression and physicality from our entire midfield for the whole game and absolutely no protection for Gawn. 

I could have sworn I heard our leaders say multiple times how much that prelim loss burnt and how it was going to spur them on all summer. And that's the level of intensity and aggression we get in round 1?

Unbelievable really. 

How could you possibly choose to drop one or two when almost everyone should be playing at Casey this weekend?

 

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9 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

I still can't understand why the group thought is that Port won due to superior speed and we were tired etc. 

If you watch the entire game closely, you'll see that almost all of their length of the ground runs came from mistakes or bad kicks inside our forward 50.

We had so many opportunities to put the game to bed early and again we didn't. ANB. Twice. Unbelievable. 

Their first goal was from a brain fade from Harmes. Wasn't goal side of Boak at a stoppage from a throw-in at Ports 50. Unforgivable. It's under 15's stuff. 

The theme we have is that once we're ahead, it's as if we lose composure, patience and system and just expect it'll happen. 

They got easy goals early from our mistakes and then we just kept making them. 

They took advantage in the ruck around the ground when Gawn was off so once they hit even with us at the coal-face, the difference was skill execution and nothing else. 

Port's ability to hold the ball, draw players and then handball their way out of traffic was an enormous factor. 

The only other thing I was stunned by was the complete lack of intensity, aggression and physicality from our entire midfield for the whole game and absolutely no protection for Gawn. 

I could have sworn I heard our leaders say multiple times how much that prelim loss burnt and how it was going to spur them on all summer. And that's the level of intensity and aggression we get in round 1?

Unbelievable really. 

How could you possibly choose to drop one or two when almost everyone should be playing at Casey this weekend?

 

Surprised we lost by 4 goals in the end.

Agree that mistakes hurt us. But when a 31 year old Travis Boak is burning everyone of our players off down the MCC wing, you know there's a problem. 

A lot of our blokes were at a canter in the middle of the third.

 

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