Just curious from track watchers on the progress of Corey Wagner. So far we have heard of Marty Hore and Tom Sparrow as potential first year players getting some early senior exposure, but yet nothing on Wagner who is a mature age recruit.

He had some impressive big numbers in the VFL and I am really hopeful we see him earlier on.

22 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Just curious from track watchers on the progress of Corey Wagner. So far we have heard of Marty Hore and Tom Sparrow as potential first year players getting some early senior exposure, but yet nothing on Wagner who is a mature age recruit.

He had some impressive big numbers in the VFL and I am really hopeful we see him earlier on.

I would also add his brother Josh. 

Contrary to many on this site, I liked what I saw with Josh. Thought he showed promise but lost his way last season. 

A little rough around the edges but had a manic attack on the ball and opponent. 

4 hours ago, hemingway said:

I would also add his brother Josh. 

Contrary to many on this site, I liked what I saw with Josh. Thought he showed promise but lost his way last season. 

A little rough around the edges but had a manic attack on the ball and opponent. 

Sorry H but we must be watching different Wagners...

22 hours ago, hemingway said:

I would also add his brother Josh. 

Contrary to many on this site, I liked what I saw with Josh. Thought he showed promise but lost his way last season. 

A little rough around the edges but had a manic attack on the ball and opponent. 

Are you serious - JOSH WAGNER ??????  

From what i have seen a lack of attack on the ball and opponent is one of his main problems - lacks any physical edge to his game whatsoever.  Also needs to use the ball better & get more touches.

Even at Casey he was solid rather than great.

 

17 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Sorry H but we must be watching different Wagners...

Gotta agree. He looked lost out there. Effort was there, but was nowhere near ready.

40 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Are you serious - JOSH WAGNER ??????  

From what i have seen a lack of attack on the ball and opponent is one of his main problems - lacks any physical edge to his game whatsoever.  Also needs to use the ball better & get more touches.

Even at Casey he was solid rather than great.

 

No need to get Cranky Franky.

Happy to bow to greater knowledge but I was only interested in getting some comments.

I was referring to his 2016 season when he played half a dozen or more senior games.  He lacked polish but seemed to be a goer. At that time the club must have thought that he was half decent. And he has been retained on the list. 

By the way I simply said that I liked what I saw, nothing about being great. 

Edited February 19, 20196 yr by hemingway

Corey Wagner, has what has been inferred in the first post, under that radar

Just been ticking off the preseason sessions

Can run all day and has good skills, does a lot of the craft work with the other small forwards, Spargo, Garlett etc

Josh Wagner is what we have seen, a solid AFL player, who needs to excel and sustain to get a chance in AFL team

Edited February 19, 20196 yr by Satyriconhome

3 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Corey Wagner, has what has been inferred in the first post, been under that radar

Just been ticking off the preseason sessions

Can run all day and has good skills, does a lot of the craft work with the other small forwards, Spargo, Garlett etc

Josh Wagner is what we have seen, a solid AFL player, who needs to excel and sustain to get a chance in AFL team

Interesting he has been training with the forwards. Would think he would be eyeing a spot on the wing to utilize his running power.

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Interesting he has been training with the forwards. Would think he would be eyeing a spot on the wing to utilize his running power.

Think they see him as another Nibbler, maybe cover and keep Nibs honest

During match sim both buzz around everywhere

Craft for small fwds is pressure, tackling and kicking goals anyway you can

50 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Think they see him as another Nibbler, maybe cover and keep Nibs honest

During match sim both buzz around everywhere

Craft for small fwds is pressure, tackling and kicking goals anyway you can

yeah I think you might be right there. small forwards like Nibbler who push up the ground to the contest then have to sprint back inside F50 run as much as anyone out on the footy field. i haven't seen him training but I watched Corey Wagner a bit in the VFL last year and it looks to me like he could play that same sort of role as ANB does too.

8 hours ago, Demon Dude said:

yeah I think you might be right there. small forwards like Nibbler who push up the ground to the contest then have to sprint back inside F50 run as much as anyone out on the footy field. i haven't seen him training but I watched Corey Wagner a bit in the VFL last year and it looks to me like he could play that same sort of role as ANB does too.

I see him also as possibly interchangeable with Melksham.

On 2/18/2019 at 10:21 PM, jnrmac said:

Sorry H but we must be watching different Wagners...

I think I was watching the same one as you.

5 hours ago, Redleg said:

I think I was watching the same one as you.

You have not mentioned my favourite Wagner.

Richard was very versatile and able to play a variety of roles.  

His skills were sublime, his intensity and commitment renowned, and he was able to perform on the big stage when it counted. 

Unfortunately, he was a bit of a prima donna who had a habit of rubbing up his team mates the wrong way. So he was not a great team player as he always demanded the ball and did not like team mates getting in his way. 

He also attracted some undesirable fans including a bloke called Adolf and his cheer squad.   

But when he played, he was sublime.  

 

23 hours ago, hemingway said:

No need to get Cranky Franky.

Happy to bow to greater knowledge but I was only interested in getting some comments.

I was referring to his 2016 season when he played half a dozen or more senior games.  He lacked polish but seemed to be a goer. At that time the club must have thought that he was half decent. And he has been retained on the list. 

By the way I simply said that I liked what I saw, nothing about being great. 

That was a good season for him when having the opportunity. He did show some potential at the end of the training and adjusting rainbow. He hit hard, went in hard and ran well with the ball. His finishing skills were the suspect areas but, he was improving. He has deceptive pace and some height that I hope he has been able to develop. Thoroughly worth watching.

9 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

That was a good season for him when having the opportunity. He did show some potential at the end of the training and adjusting rainbow. He hit hard, went in hard and ran well with the ball. His finishing skills were the suspect areas but, he was improving. He has deceptive pace and some height that I hope he has been able to develop. Thoroughly worth watching.

Thanks Dee, I was feeling like a fool. I agree his disposal was not good but it was his intensity and hardness at the ball that I liked and I remember thinking that this was the new type we were recruiting and developing. But lost track of him and unlike others did not see anything of him in the VFL. 

19 hours ago, hemingway said:

You have not mentioned my favourite Wagner.

Richard was very versatile and able to play a variety of roles.  

His skills were sublime, his intensity and commitment renowned, and he was able to perform on the big stage when it counted. 

Unfortunately, he was a bit of a prima donna who had a habit of rubbing up his team mates the wrong way. So he was not a great team player as he always demanded the ball and did not like team mates getting in his way. 

He also attracted some undesirable fans including a bloke called Adolf and his cheer squad.   

But when he played, he was sublime.  

 

Rockaria

Song by Electric Light Orchestra

Lyrics

Just got back from the downtown Palais
Where the music was so sweet
It knocked me right back in the alley
I'm ready, yea, yea, yea, I'm ready
Wo, wo, wo, I'm ready
And I'm really gonna rock tonight

Sweet little lady sings like a songbird
And she sings the opera like you ain't never heard
But she ain't ready
No, no, no, she ain't ready
No, no, no, she ain't ready
And she ain't gonna rock & roll

She's sweet on Wagner
I think she'd die for Beethoven
She loves the way Puccini lays down a tune
And Verdi's always creeping from her room

33 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Rockaria

Song by Electric Light Orchestra

Lyrics

Just got back from the downtown Palais
Where the music was so sweet
It knocked me right back in the alley
I'm ready, yea, yea, yea, I'm ready
Wo, wo, wo, I'm ready
And I'm really gonna rock tonight

Sweet little lady sings like a songbird
And she sings the opera like you ain't never heard
But she ain't ready
No, no, no, she ain't ready
No, no, no, she ain't ready
And she ain't gonna rock & roll

She's sweet on Wagner
I think she'd die for Beethoven
She loves the way Puccini lays down a tune
And Verdi's always creeping from her room

Wagner and Beethoven are bullocking Germans who command the ball as inside players either in the midfield or down the spine, with the fleet footed Puccini and Verdi avoiding physical contact using their sublime foot skills on the outside at wing or half forward. 

2 hours ago, hemingway said:

Wagner and Beethoven are bullocking Germans who command the ball as inside players either in the midfield or down the spine, with the fleet footed Puccini and Verdi avoiding physical contact using their sublime foot skills on the outside at wing or half forward. 

only when Brahms and List

Has this bloke got a kick in the 2s yet? Was always sceptical of recruiting a second wagner 

 

On 2/19/2019 at 3:08 PM, Satyriconhome said:

Corey Wagner, has what has been inferred in the first post, under that radar

Just been ticking off the preseason sessions

Can run all day and has good skills, does a lot of the craft work with the other small forwards, Spargo, Garlett etc

Josh Wagner is what we have seen, a solid AFL player, who needs to excel and sustain to get a chance in AFL team

Theyre both duds and  always have been.  And yes I know your post is 18 months old,  but I could have told you the exact same thing then.

Delist both.  Classic list cloggers.

8 hours ago, Elegt said:

Has this bloke got a kick in the 2s yet? Was always sceptical of recruiting a second wagner 

I was in favor of recruiting another Wagner...

Now does Spargo have a younger brother coming through the ranks??

I know we have mainly played Corey as a defensive forward, but I can't imagine he'd be any worse than Lockhart and Jetta have been as a small defender.

Did he go to NSW?  Would probably stamp his papers if he stayed in Melb...

24 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

Did he go to NSW?  Would probably stamp his papers if he stayed in Melb...

He stayed behind.

29 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I was in favor of recruiting another Wagner...

Now does Spargo have a younger brother coming through the ranks??

You're really taking every opportunity to sink the boots into Spargo.  Not sure what he's done to deserve it to be honest.

10 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

He stayed behind.

You're really taking every opportunity to sink the boots into Spargo.  Not sure what he's done to deserve it to be honest.

FWIW, when we're up and about, Charlie Spargo is often involved in most scoring chains. He doesn't get it a lot but he's a good decision maker and solid user when he does. We could do with a bit of that around half forward. He's a better bet for mine than a few others.