Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Thehardtackler 785]

Peter Bell just responded to my email about Jesse. Credit where credit is due. He was very polite.

[Sir Why You Little 37,016]

3 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Quite the opposite:  "Jesse Hogan has taken a significant pay cut to get back to his family in Perth and play for Fremantle".

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/hogan-accepts-pay-cut-to-join-fremantle-as-stars-switch-clubs-20181017-p50aa2.html

It makes his decision to go to Freo even more baffling: leaves a team on the brink of success for one at the bottom, takes only a three year deal and a pay cut.  Baffling.

Its no wonder we weren't able to get a better trade deal - much easier to get top picks if player is on a long-term multi $m deal. 

That is strange... it really is

[daisycutter 29,612]

11 minutes ago, My name is legion said:

He’s lived on Melbourne for several years. Did he not make friends here? Doesn’t his Mum live in Adelaide now? It’s all about the money. Make no mistake. Why go to such a [censored] club when ours is on the way up?

don't think he got much of a pay rise at all if reports are to be believed and melbourne certainly would have offered him more for an extension.

agree, the family bit is a little odd, with mum (and her family) in adelaide and jessie's 3 siblings having a gap of 12 years on him.

so that leaves his mates and lifestyle in perth?  i dunno. 

Edited October 17, 2018 by daisycutter

[bjDee 1,249]

Just now, daisycutter said:

agree, the family bit is a little odd, with mom (and her family) in adelaide and jessie's 3 siblings having a gap of 12 years on him.

 

(Whew - finally caught up with the front of the thread)

So she's American?  Maybe he thought there was some apple pie waiting in the oven where they used to live?

[Wiseblood 24,637]

6 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Quite the opposite:  "Jesse Hogan has taken a significant pay cut to get back to his family in Perth and play for Fremantle".

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/hogan-accepts-pay-cut-to-join-fremantle-as-stars-switch-clubs-20181017-p50aa2.html

It makes his decision to go to Freo even more baffling: leaves a team on the brink of success for one at the bottom, takes only a three year deal and a pay cut.  Baffling.

Its no wonder we weren't able to get a better trade deal - much easier to get top picks if player is on a long-term multi $m deal.   Mahoney did a great job getting the deal he did.

I haven't really bought the notion that he wasn't invested in the club, or questioned his passion to win, but the above does put it in the spotlight. 

For reasons we could all understand, perhaps footy isn't first and foremost in his life anymore? Maybe getting himself around family and friends is the most important thing right now, which under the circumstances you couldn't blame him for. 

Either way, I agree that we have done well out of this, and while I understand why others might be disappointed in the overall deal, I'm happy with how it turned out and I hold no ill feeling whatsoever towards Jesse. I wish him well at Freo, but I'm also super excited for what our clubs future holds! 

[daisycutter 29,612]

1 minute ago, bjDee said:

(Whew - finally caught up with the front of the thread)

So she's American?  Maybe he thought there was some apple pie waiting in the oven where they used to live?

lol - good pickup. i dunno why i typed mom, i don't usually use that term

[Brownie 5,980]

With May rolling into the backline I'm looking forward to watching Fritsch hopefully going forward.

We seemed a bit one dimensional with Jesse playing.

Much more unpredictable with TMAC Weid Tracc and Gawn floating forward. I think Fritsch is a Brad Green in the making if they give him the chance up front.

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,816]

6 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

lol - good pickup. i dunno why i typed mom, i don't usually use that term

Americanised autocorrect?

[daisycutter 29,612]

interesting and weird fact

Jesse Hogan was  CHB in the U18 All Australian side

Steven May was  FF in the U18 All Australian side

[Pates 9,660]

This would have to go down as one of the strangest trades that has ever happened. There has been more drama and twists and turns than your average Neighbours story line.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,856]

27 minutes ago, Thehardtackler said:

Peter Bell just responded to my email about Jesse. Credit where credit is due. He was very polite.

Post the reply. 

He was just interviewed on Perth radio and admitted to the ‘feather in the cap’ saying being a poor choice of words. He sounds like a decent guy, just didn’t come across it during the first week of trade week. 

Edited October 17, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

I'm hoping Andrew Brayshaw gets very homesick this year after his terrible incident with Gaff. Would only be right and proper that Freo let him come to Melbourne on compassionate grounds. We'd be happy to give you Bell-ends a future 4th rounder....

Would be great to see him at MFC but he's not the sort of bloke to say "put it there, i said"

[Deemania since 56 6,633]

9 minutes ago, Brownie said:

We seemed a bit one dimensional with Jesse playing.

A considerable problem across the last two seasons. 

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,816]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

I'm hoping Andrew Brayshaw gets very homesick this year after his terrible incident with Gaff. Would only be right and proper that Freo let him come to Melbourne on compassionate grounds. We'd be happy to give you Bell-ends a future 4th rounder....

What do you mean just hope?

Gus and the MFC should be constantly in his ear telling him how great it is over here and what he is missing out on with the Dockers (the MCG, competing in finals etc) planting and well fertilizing those seeds of thought in his mind like Freo did to us with Jessy.

Brothers playing together like you and big brother Anthony did for a few years.  How great was that Jnr?

Edited October 17, 2018 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

[Demon Disciple 12,118]

33 minutes ago, Thehardtackler said:

Peter Bell just responded to my email about Jesse. Credit where credit is due. He was very polite.

Good on him, haha.

[chook fowler 19,458]

15 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Post the reply. 

He was just interviewed on Perth radio and admitted to the ‘feather in the cap’ saying being a poor choice of words. He sounds like a decent guy, just didn’t come across it during the first week of trade week. 

More like a Freudian slip

[Deemania since 56 6,633]

3 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Our hidden mics captured the farewell address. Transcription follows:

 

"Oh well, um, look, alright, ummmmmm ….. is this thing on? Um, well boys, I, um ... I s’pose you’re all wond’rin’ why I’m … AW SHUDDUP MAX.  Look, um …. Oh, I dunno. Me hands are shakin’. Anyone got a light? Look, this is some f**kin’ bullsh*t. ….. Why are yez all starin’ at me? You blokes knew I was goin’ off back West, right? No? What? Oh, nah, yeah, nah, I was always goin’—aw, f**k you Clarry! Who gives a f**k? The f**k? You f**kin [censored]. Nah, f**k you. I was gunna say, I love yez all, but if yez are gunna--- nah, f**k you. F**k the lot of yez. Nah, f**k off. No, YOU f**k off. Just f**k off. Ah, f**k this.

 

"

It actually makes sense because there are so many permuted inferences of that one, quaint, little Elizabethan word. Linguistics rules! 

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,816]

2 hours ago, jumbo returns said:

Right.....so....what did you expect him to write??

There are some players and player managers that are complete nuffies that would put out some really disrespectful stuff.  I thought the message came across as pretty genuine and classy.  Photo is a nice touch.

Must say I find this all much easier to accept as genuine on Jessies part based on the understanding that he took a pay cut and a fairly modest length of contract.  I still think we got significantly short changed by Freo on draft picks they traded, but also acknowledge that it may have been the best all round result we were ever likely to get in the circumstances.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,206]

53 minutes ago, Sargent Shultz said:

bugger.....ill have to pick another pseudonym now that Hogan has gone- his not my hero anymore. 

May Day?

[titan_uranus 24,991]

Losing Hogan sucks.

But having accepted that he wanted to go home, I'm more than happy with the way things panned out for us in the end.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,206]

51 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I'd spend the next 3 years planting the seeds of a return.

It's a different landscape and he'll hate being the centre of attention in a small town over the next few years.

I know it's a silly thought, but I don't care.

Freo has history with Croad and Tarrant.

[binman 42,859]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

May Day?

Spartacus would give provide some good avatar options.

[Willmoy1947 4,085]

2 minutes ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

There are some players and player managers that are complete nuffies that would put out some really disrespectful stuff.  I thought the message came across as pretty genuine and classy.  Photo is a nice touch.

Must say I find this all much easier to accept as genuine on Jessies part based on the understanding that he took a pay cut and a fairly modest length of contract.  I still think we got significantly short changed by Freo on draft picks they traded, but also acknowledge that it may have been the best all round result we were ever likely to get in the circumstances.

Yep, got to agree, specially seeing there might be a bit more we do not know....

[Dr. Gonzo 24,206]

55 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Quite the opposite:  "Jesse Hogan has taken a significant pay cut to get back to his family in Perth and play for Fremantle".

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/hogan-accepts-pay-cut-to-join-fremantle-as-stars-switch-clubs-20181017-p50aa2.html

It makes his decision to go to Freo even more baffling: leaves a team on the brink of success for one at the bottom, takes only a three year deal and a pay cut.  Baffling.

Its no wonder we weren't able to get a better trade deal - much easier to get top picks if player is on a long-term multi $m deal.   Mahoney did a great job getting the deal he did.

That article mentions mental health issues which had been alluded to but not stated outright. Wouldn't surprise considering his last 2-3 years and you can't blame him for wanting to get back to his mum, siblings and mates. This is a bit different to generic "homesickness" the guys been through more than any 23yo should over the last 2 years.

[My name is legion 158]

55 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

don't think he got much of a pay rise at all if reports are to be believed and melbourne certainly would have offered him more for an extension.

agree, the family bit is a little odd, with mum (and her family) in adelaide and jessie's 3 siblings having a gap of 12 years on him.

so that leaves his mates and lifestyle in perth?  i dunno. 

There are ways of giving people money that are never declared.