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Farewell Jesse Hogan

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  On 10/02/2022 at 21:50, dazzledavey36 said:

A fit Ben Brown and Jesse Hogan in the same forward line would have been one tantalising combo.

Just like celebrity couples who became known as one; Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez: “Bennifer” or Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie: “Brangelina”, Brown and Hogan could have become: “Bogan” 

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    We wouldn’t have Steven May running around for us if Jesse stayed. Our backline was critical in capturing our 13th flag and was the most consistent part of our team for the whole year. May was phenomenal in his role as our KPD big man, without him I doubt we would have become premiers.

    Will always have a soft spot for Jesse, but May is part of the 22 (along with Goody) that I will forever worship.

     

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      On 11/02/2022 at 12:38, Demon Disciple said:

    We wouldn’t have Steven May running around for us if Jesse stayed. Our backline was critical in capturing our 13th flag and was the most consistent part of our 22 for the whole year. Our backline was truly something else last year. May was phenomenal in his role as our KP big man, without him I doubt we would have lifted the cup.

    Will always have a soft spot for Jesse, but May is part of the 22 (along with Goody) that I will forever worship.

     

     

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    I've always felt a bit sorry for Hogan. In his early years he looked destined to become our best forward since David Neitz and it's a pity that his career hasn't panned out in the way everyone expected. He has had some off field issues over the years but he really does seem like a great guy personally. I would really like 2022 to be a redemption year for him.

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    I cant believe he is already 27. We are much much better off without him for all reasons already stated. Add on the constant foot, soft tissue injuries and the "mental health breaks". Having one of your highest paid players doing all that is constantly draining. And at the end of the day he chose to leave and was talking to Lyon and Fyfe a long long way out. The clubs much better without him really. Yeah sure he seems like an ok guy. They almost always do when they where our jumper. I say bad luck Jesse and thanks for the subtle warning for LJ.

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      On 10/02/2022 at 23:20, Mazer Rackham said:

    It's more than the skillset of Hogan. It's the mindset. Watts was moved on coz he didn't have the head for finals football that May, Viney, Sparrow, etc etc, have. Hogan similar. He went hard when he wanted to. Not all the time as Goodwin requires. Garlett also comes to mind. Goodwin's shaped the list as a bunch of ferocious goers and we saw in the finals what an unstoppable force they are when they're on. Hogan would be out of place in this team.

    Totally unknowable, but would he have responded and bought in to the (tumultuous according to Herald Sun 🤮) 2020 post season player and coaching panel driven, epiphany which set up 2021 and hopefully the next 5+ years?

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    At the time i was against trading Jesse but there's no question now we are a better team with Maysie in the side

    A good lad, well liked and on his day a special player but like Jack Watts didn't have the 100% buy-in and professionalism to play in a premiership team.

    Injuries are starting to take their toll now but i wish him nothing but the best

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      On 11/02/2022 at 12:37, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Just like celebrity couples who became known as one; Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez: “Bennifer” or Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie: “Brangelina”, Brown and Hogan could have become: “Bogan” 

    There he is.. 👏

     

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      On 11/02/2022 at 14:50, Wizard of Koz said:

    I cant believe he is already 27. We are much much better off without him for all reasons already stated. Add on the constant foot, soft tissue injuries and the "mental health breaks". Having one of your highest paid players doing all that is constantly draining. And at the end of the day he chose to leave and was talking to Lyon and Fyfe a long long way out. The clubs much better without him really. Yeah sure he seems like an ok guy. They almost always do when they where our jumper. I say bad luck Jesse and thanks for the subtle warning for LJ.

    +1 Wiz.

    'The caravan has moved on but the dog is still barking'.

    TBH his back story was so over whelming the club was happy to see him go.

    (Would love to see him have a good year though).

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      On 11/02/2022 at 23:42, Jontee said:

    +1 Wiz.

    'The caravan has moved on but the dog is still barking'.

    TBH his back story was so over whelming the club was happy to see him go.

    (Would love to see him have a good year though).

    +1 Jontee!

    I would watch Giants games just to watch Hogan playing well. He's a rare talent.

    But the sliding door can't be slid back. All the best, Hoges.

    GO DEMONS!!!

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    I might be a bit of a bastard, but I don’t really regard Hogan with any more fondness than any other of the ex-MFC players who never reached their potential, and there are a lot to choose from. 

    I’m sympathetic to the guy as a human who had a pretty rough trot, probably not helped by joining the AFL system a year younger than most other players, but that’s about as far as it goes.

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      On 10/02/2022 at 21:44, In Harmes Way said:

    Interesting he laments leaving the dees and that watching us win a flag was "torture"

    In a sliding doors world and he was still with us, I wonder who would have made way for him from the grand final team. 

    If he was still with us we would not be premiers. The trading of both Hogan and Watts has been key to both cultural change and incoming player outcomes. 

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      On 11/02/2022 at 12:37, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Just like celebrity couples who became known as one; Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez: “Bennifer” or Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie: “Brangelina”, Brown and Hogan could have become: “Bogan” 

    The HoBros?

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      On 12/02/2022 at 09:19, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

    If he was still with us we would not be premiers. The trading of both Hogan and Watts has been key to both cultural change and incoming player outcomes. 

    l wouldn't be lumping jess in with watts ... jess trained his bum off and worked hard during games .. in his last year with us he was leading our b and f before injury ... his body language wasn't always the best but he was working on it ... watts rarely trained or played at high intensity for long periods

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      On 12/02/2022 at 10:21, Demons1858 said:

    l wouldn't be lumping jess in with watts ... jess trained his bum off and worked hard during games .. in his last year with us he was leading our b and f before injury ... his body language wasn't always the best but he was working on it ... watts rarely trained or played at high intensity for long periods

    They were different kinds of problems but moving them on was key to our premiership.

     From a purely trade perspective watts gave us Fritsch and hogan gave us May, I don’t think anyone would argue how pivotal they both were to the outcome last year.

     More than that they both sucked oxygen from the team. I’m not blaming them as people, they both seemed like good guys from what I could tell from a distance, but everything was always about them and not the team. Every year there was a discussion about Jesse going back to WA. Every year we had to talk about how watts needed x or y to reach his full potential.

     They share that they were both talented footballers who’s leaving did so much more for the team than their presence ever did.

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      On 12/02/2022 at 10:41, FlashInThePan said:

    They were different kinds of problems but moving them on was key to our premiership.

     From a purely trade perspective watts gave us Fritsch and hogan gave us May, I don’t think anyone would argue how pivotal they both were to the outcome last year.

     More than that they both sucked oxygen from the team. I’m not blaming them as people, they both seemed like good guys from what I could tell from a distance, but everything was always about them and not the team. Every year there was a discussion about Jesse going back to WA. Every year we had to talk about how watts needed x or y to reach his full potential.

     They share that they were both talented footballers who’s leaving did so much more for the team than their presence ever did.

    l think we could have won a premiership with a fit jess also. Our list management team would have found a way to attract another key back or quality player as they have done consistently

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      On 12/02/2022 at 10:21, Demons1858 said:

    l wouldn't be lumping jess in with watts ... jess trained his bum off and worked hard during games .. in his last year with us he was leading our b and f before injury ... his body language wasn't always the best but he was working on it ... watts rarely trained or played at high intensity for long periods

    Are you sure?

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      On 12/02/2022 at 12:52, Wizard of Koz said:

    Are you sure?

    Well, given Jesse played the first 20 games and finished 11th in the best and fairest then it is fair to question this! 😀

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      On 10/02/2022 at 21:45, dazzledavey36 said:

    If he was still with us there would be no Ben Brown. 

    That would have been Hogan's spot.

     

    Wouldn’t have May OR we would have traded an excellent kid to get May, maybe Oliver???

    Now that is a sliding door!

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      On 12/02/2022 at 21:26, rpfc said:

    Wouldn’t have May OR we would have traded an excellent kid to get May, maybe Oliver???

    Now that is a sliding door!

    Agree.

    A pivotal recruit in the clubs history.

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      On 12/02/2022 at 10:21, Demons1858 said:

    l wouldn't be lumping jess in with watts ... jess trained his bum off and worked hard during games .. in his last year with us he was leading our b and f before injury ... his body language wasn't always the best but he was working on it ... watts rarely trained or played at high intensity for long periods

    Both of them were much loved and of high skill and impact on their day. Both of them were highly regarded juniors who for different and varying reasons did not get the most out of themselves. We are not the team we have become without May at one end and Fritsch at the other neither of which happens without these trades. 

    Easy for Hogan to say he regrets the move when he has watched us win the premiership and the negligible impact he has had on the field since. Who wouldn’t regret. I wish him all the best at the Giants and hope like other seriously talented players he finds a way to get the best out of himself professionally and personally.  

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    Still a valuable player when he’s up and going played some good games for GWS….but he’s injured more often than not had a terrible run: on that basis alone our list is better off without trying to rely on him but I’ll always be a fan

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      On 10/02/2022 at 21:34, dazzledavey36 said:

    Won't let me open full article but the caption by Hogan is interesting. 

     

    Might be worth referencing to Jacko or any player when contemplating contract renewal or extension.

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