Farewell Jesse Hogan

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look out No T$ no BS thread, we're coming for you!

[layzie 34,339]

They’d love to know that. 7 years work done in a few months. 

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

Has slowed down

[Ethan Tremblay 31,243]

I heard his foot’s about to fall off from smoking too many darts. 

[dieter 3,325]

3 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I heard his foot’s about to fall off from smoking too many darts. 

i'VE HEARD THAT'S WHY HE'S BEEN TRYING TO KICK WITH HIS LEFT FOOT FOREVER. IT'S CALLED ARTISTIC PRESCIENCE.

[Ethan Tremblay 31,243]

18 minutes ago, dieter said:

i'VE HEARD THAT'S WHY HE'S BEEN TRYING TO KICK WITH HIS LEFT FOOT FOREVER. IT'S CALLED ARTISTIC PRESCIENCE.

Maybe that’s why Hogan’s nickname was da Vinci. 

[beelzebub 23,390]

25 minutes ago, binman said:

I wouldn't worry. Read it twice. Still can't understand what you are saying.

Try thrice... it's the charm.

[binman 44,533]

12 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Try thrice... it's the charm.

Thrice?

Ye Olde beezle most indubitably attended a private venerable tower of Babal and digested snippets of Latin.

[Adam The God 30,613]

2 hours ago, wise said:

De Goey 2.3 goals a game. Trac 0.8...

And he was ahead of De Goey in many other stats, without having a break out game.

Edited October 22, 2018 by A F

[Adam The God 30,613]

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I heard his foot’s about to fall off from smoking too many darts. 

Is that you, Karl?

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14 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

From a reliable source . . .

Direct confirmation from an assistant coach about Hogan: “we’re glad he's gone - very hard to deal with”.
 

I’ve heard the exact same thing from a very reliable source.  

It may be the same source, but there was seemingly something not right there.

[hells bells 2,023]

13 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Actually . . . what was passed onto me contained a brutal assessment beyond what I've shared here.  

Culture killer?

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13 hours ago, A F said:

Might have been 'very hard to deal with... the speculation that came with his contract renewal every season or so'.

Also, in regards to who replaces the goals kicked by Hogan, yes, Weideman, Melksham etc, but the guy who many are overlooking is one, Christian Petracca.

He had a pretty consistent season and matched De Goey's stats without having a breakout game, yet journalists are frothing over De Goey. Petracca is the one for us. If he kicks into gear next season, which feels likely, we're going to be incredibly difficult to beat, providing our midfield can maintain its consistency.

 

12 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

I didn't believe you - but you are right...

I wonder how many of those gimme's goals he sprayed,  even if 75% were converted would have topped up his goal tally for the year...

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=12&playerStatus2=A&tid2=5&type=A&pid1=4041&pid2=4043&fid1=S&fid2=S

DeGoey 48 goals and a match winner, Petracca 19 goals and plods around. Christian has a very long way to go to get even close to DeGoey and the time is now, no more plodding stuck in second gear, he needs to pull his immature head out of his [censored] and have a big pre season. Nathan Jones racks up stats too and doesn't do anything with them. DeGoey is a star.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 17,016]

13 hours ago, beelzebub said:

I'd just like to point out... irrespective of what you know; you have no idea who I am, who I might know, indeed what I might know.

What I choose to believe is my decision, as is yours whatever you choose. Invariably what I believe has some foundation and corroboration. That said I'm quite able to acknowledge that someone else might know something also, something different. I can accept the possibility without subscribing.

What you believe  I can't comment on nor care. 

It might be the only thing we agree upon us a desire to see the Dees prosper.

Cheers

What are you talking about? You've got a whole Wikipedia entry!

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

15 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

From a reliable source . . .

Direct confirmation from an assistant coach about Hogan: “we’re glad he's gone - very hard to deal with”.
 

Jesse’s best friend is a My Little Pony he carries everywhere. He talks to it and has whispered giggly conversations with it. That’s why he was seen as aloof. It attended all team meetings and had to be addressed as Your Royal Horseness. Players, coaches, trainers, all had to salute His Royal Horseness or Jesse would go home. Jesse would consult it before every training session to see if it was in the mood for him to participate. If His Royal Horseness refused permission, Jesse would not train. If the toy ever went missing, Jesse would throw hysterical tantrums and occasionally doctors had to be called.

Finally Mahoney had had enough and brought in a horse from a Barbie set and used it to intimidate His Royal Horseness. Unfortunately he went too far and Jesse’s toy ordered Jesse to look elsewhere. Jesse felt he had no choice but to comply.

Sounds like a nightmare.

[DeeZee 7,445]

Trac needs to have a big pre season .

I think we all believe he can go to another level,and the role Hogan played working up the ground would suit Trac if he can improve his tank.

I thought he was really good in our finals against Cats and Hawks , but he can be a real match winner with a bit more work.

[John Demonic 5,901]

10 hours ago, A F said:

And he was ahead of De Goey in many other stats, without having a break out game.

He's definitely ahead of JDG on the scales  I hope Tracc follows in the footsteps of Gawn and comes back ripe and has a big off season and sheds a few kilo's. Perhaps it's what stands in the way of him becoming as explosive a burst player as Goey

Edited October 22, 2018 by John Demonic

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13 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

He's definitely ahead of JDG on the scales  I hope Tracc follows in the footsteps of Gawn and comes back ripe and has a big off season and sheds a few kilo's. Perhaps it's what stands in the way of him becoming as explosive a burst player as Goey

Interesting, John. Trac also seems to have lost a little 'courage' in close - a big pre-season is definitely a necessity to work back into lethality.

[Grand New Flag 3,227]

On 10/20/2018 at 9:06 AM, rpfc said:

Just leaving this here...

I rarely troll posters, but seriously...

@rpfc  Great effort to try and discredit me, but what I wrote was true. The FD would have prefered JH stayed and JH was happy to play out his contract.  This is a fact.

We did as well as we could getting KK, May and a Pick 23 for JH and the FD shoudl be congratulated for this..................... but that does not mean they are happy losing the best young forward in the comp.  

[old55 23,834]

1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Jesse’s best friend is a My Little Pony he carries everywhere. He talks to it and has whispered giggly conversations with it. That’s why he was seen as aloof. It attended all team meetings and had to be addressed as Your Royal Horseness. Players, coaches, trainers, all had to salute His Royal Horseness or Jesse would go home. Jesse would consult it before every training session to see if it was in the mood for him to participate. If His Royal Horseness refused permission, Jesse would not train. If the toy ever went missing, Jesse would throw hysterical tantrums and occasionally doctors had to be called.

Finally Mahoney had had enough and brought in a horse from a Barbie set and used it to intimidate His Royal Horseness. Unfortunately he went too far and Jesse’s toy ordered Jesse to look elsewhere. Jesse felt he had no choice but to comply.

Sounds like a nightmare.

surprised he didn't go to Sydney

[old55 23,834]

7 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

@rpfc  Great effort to try and discredit me, but what I wrote was true. The FD would have prefered JH stayed and JH was happy to play out his contract.  This is a fact.

We did as well as we could getting KK, May and a Pick 23 for JH and the FD shoudl be congratulated for this..................... but that does not mean they are happy losing the best young forward in the comp.  

why do I give @Queanbeyan Demon post more credit than your's?

[old55 23,834]

16 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

From a reliable source . . .

Direct confirmation from an assistant coach about Hogan: “we’re glad he's gone - very hard to deal with”.
 

Told you under "cone of silence" or fine to have it on the public record?  We all appreciate inside information but one needs to be careful that one's sources do not dry up from being aired too much.

[beelzebub 23,390]

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

What are you talking about? You've got a whole Wikipedia entry!

Shhhh

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1 hour ago, John Demonic said:

He's definitely ahead of JDG on the scales  I hope Tracc follows in the footsteps of Gawn and comes back ripe and has a big off season and sheds a few kilo's. Perhaps it's what stands in the way of him becoming as explosive a burst player as Goey

Yes, 5kg heavier (96 kilos) but 5cm shorter.  That in itself tells a story.

I have a niggling doubt - that he might be of the Watts, Hogan mould.  Talent to burn, lauded as a star before time but struggles with motivation to do the difficult things to be the best he can be eg diet, fitness.

Jessie leaving really opens up the forward line for Trac to kick more goals and find space.  Hope that is enough motivation to step up:  He would be aware that his contemporaries at the dees and elsewhere ie JDG have moved well past him. 

Time for him to shine, to cast away the doubts.

Edited October 22, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

[binman 44,533]

4 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Yes, 5kg heavier (96 kilos) but 5cm shorter.  That in itself tells a story.

I have a niggling doubt - that he might be of the Watts, Hogan mould.  Talent to burn, lauded as a star before time but struggles with motivation to do the difficult things to be the best he can be eg diet, fitness.

Jessie leaving really opens up the forward line for Trac to kick more goals and find space.  Hope that is enough motivation to step up:  He would be aware that his contemporaries at the dees and elsewhere ie JDG have moved well past him. 

Time for him to shine, to cast away the doubts.

Good post LH. Agree that he has big opportunity to fill the space left by Hogan.

I think he was pretty consistent this year but next year its time to go up a level and deliver on his promise in the way Gus did this year. Get super fit. Work on his set shots. Stop trying for all the cute assists and start imposing his will on games the way degoey does.

Edited October 23, 2018 by binman