Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Dee Dubya 220]

2 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

wait, so we afre now settling for pick 5 and 23 which goes to the Suns for May and KK respectively. Am I reading this right? I hope I am not. KK is similar to Kent in his output in recent years. We took a pick in the 60s for Kent and now we are using Pick 23 on KK? Surely that is not what I am reading. Surely a later pick goes to GCS for KK. Can someone update me on the state of play. I can't be bothered reading over the last 20 pages. 

Well, it's like this:

Jesse is 100 % gone, utmost reliable sauce.

Jesse is 100% staying, impeccable sauce.

Jesse wants $8mil for 8 years

Peter Dumbbell is a liar.

Jesse doesn't want $8mil

Jesse is currently an UFA. Next year will be an UFA. The following 2 consecutive years he is an UFA.

Jesse will go to Freo for 1year and return to Melbourne as an UFA.

Dumbells are heavy but can fly.

Iced vovos are not on the list but are. Tim Tams might be but Chocolate Royals are not.

We are receiving 32 combinations of draft picks.

It will all happen today definitely.

It will all happen tomorrow definitely.

AFL conspiracy will make it happen tomorrow night live on tv.

Tom Scully is still a krunt.

Rinse and repeat for next 20 pages.

Jesse's manager says Dumbbell is a liar.

[sue 9,096]

17 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I wonder how many of those poster who don't rate May wanted to play Pedersen every week and were livid when Watts was put on the market ?

I'm guessing strong correlations.  ?

It's sad that some people like putting others into boxes in the hope it somehow gives weight to their own views.

[Ted Lasso 19,311]

3 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Or here's an idea....

Get the actual value of our contracted star forward & then pay a fair price for May.... 

Why should we sacrifice to get the deal done?

Why isn't Freo sacrificing to ship Neale off to get Hogan & Lobb in? 

Why isn't Brissy sacrificing and just paying overs to get Neale? 

Why isn't Collingwood sacrificing & paying overs to bring Beams home? 

 

To be clear my point of view is if the deal looks like not getting done, we’d be better off in my opinion trading hogan for just pick 5 and getting May over the line. 

Our goal is winning a premiership in 2019 and in my opinion we are a better chance of doing that with Steven May than Jesse hogan on our list. 

I persobally would be comfortable accepting slight unders in that deal in order to get Steven May over the line this year. 

And Jesse has been through hell so I think it would be a good look to make sure he gets home, even slightly at our own expense. Obviously there is a time to play hard ball, but this may not be the right time if things get right. 

I may be completely wrong and we still get more than that, that’s just my opinion 

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

4 minutes ago, olisik said:

Gc have done 4 trades in the last few hours. 

 

I serioiusly hope Mahoney has other trades in the works outside of the obvious Hogan/KK/May ones we are aware about.

Said it early on this trade period, if we allowed this to run the course of trade week, we'd be losing out on potential other deals. I seriously hope I am wrong. We have put a lot into this one deal, when it sounded like we could secure KK in a separate trade. Somehow we've been held ransom by Freo and have nothing in the pocket yet. Other clubs are in a similar position. I still feel as though we have not addressed an obvious midfield issue with pace. KK may or may not fulfill that need. He has played very little football in recent years and despite being a Pick 5 some years ago, isn't really anything to be excited about. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, Leoncelli_36 said:

Said it early on this trade period, if we allowed this to run the course of trade week, we'd be losing out on potential other deals. 

What other deals have we missed?  The one where Gold Coast and Adelaide swapped fourth round picks?

[DV8 2,271]

51 minutes ago, Grand New Flag said:

So Peter Bell has flown in from Perth to get this deal done.  There is no doubt he is under serious pressure from his Board, Supporter Base and the other AFL clubs that are relying on the Hogan deal to get their trades done.

The MFC can’t blink. We must stare down at very least picks 5, 23 and 30.  In my view this is still cheap, but this does allow the MFC to complete its aims for the trading period.  

If this is it... the best we can do from Freo, I would prefer us get P's-5, 23,,, & Freo's future 2019 2nd Rnd Pick.

2018 P's-5 & 23

2019 2nd Rnd Pick_

[old55 23,404]

Gold Coast are clearing the decks of the small stuff so they can get the May and KK deal done quickly at the last minute if necessary.  I see this as a positive.

[Lucifers Hero 39,599]

8 minutes ago, Dee Dubya said:

Well, it's like this:

Jesse is 100 % gone, utmost reliable sauce.

Jesse is 100% staying, impeccable sauce.

Jesse wants $8mil for 8 years

Peter Dumbbell is a liar.

Jesse doesn't want $8mil

Jesse is currently an UFA. Next year will be an UFA. The following 2 consecutive years he is an UFA.

Jesse will go to Freo for 1year and return to Melbourne as an UFA.

Dumbells are heavy but can fly.

Iced vovos are not on the list but are. Tim Tams might be but Chocolate Royals are not.

We are receiving 32 combinations of draft picks.

It will all happen today definitely.

It will all happen tomorrow definitely.

AFL conspiracy will make it happen tomorrow night live on tv.

Tom Scully is still a krunt.

Rinse and repeat for next 20 pages.

Jesse's manager says Dumbbell is a liar.

Hilarious!!

Thanks for a few laughs on a dull day.

Perfectly, described!!

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Almost 9,200 replies.   This thread will easily get past 10k posts.

Edited October 16, 2018 by Petraccattack

[Diamond_Jim 12,549]

so what happened to the 8 x $1M that Hogan was reportedly asking for last night.

 

 

[faultydet 7,594]

Hi everyone.

Did we win the trade period yet?

[sue 9,096]

Just now, faultydet said:

Hi everyone.

Did we win the trade period yet?

I'll let you know at the end of the 2019 season - or maybe later.

[Sir Why You Little 36,985]

32 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I wonder how many of those poster who don't rate May wanted to play Pedersen every week and were livid when Watts was put on the market ?

I'm guessing strong correlations.  ?

Huge sweeping statement

Feel better for saying it?

i rate Hogan a lot higher than May, Nothing more. 

[daisycutter 29,604]

1 minute ago, faultydet said:

Hi everyone.

Did we win the trade period yet?

we s..t it in

[Demon trucker 1,800]

1 hour ago, ICU2 Jerry Jerry said:

Watching Dravid bat is more exciting than this trade period 

It least he scored big runs. 

[GCDee 3,199]

16 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

To be clear my point of view is if the deal looks like not getting done, we’d be better off in my opinion trading hogan for just pick 5 and getting May over the line. 

Our goal is winning a premiership in 2019 and in my opinion we are a better chance of doing that with Steven May than Jesse hogan on our list. 

I persobally would be comfortable accepting slight unders in that deal in order to get Steven May over the line this year. 

And Jesse has been through hell so I think it would be a good look to make sure he gets home, even slightly at our own expense. Obviously there is a time to play hard ball, but this may not be the right time if things get right. 

I may be completely wrong and we still get more than that, that’s just my opinion 

Well I guess we will have to agree to disagree here. 

I would prefer to hold Hogan to his contract next year & target May as a FA next year assuming he doesn't go to the dogs or pies this year. 

Jesse hasn't come out and said he wants to go home... he is open to it but its clear he is also happy to stay, I would hardly say that us holding him against his will. 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,685]

20 minutes ago, Dee Dubya said:

Well, it's like this:

Jesse is 100 % gone, utmost reliable sauce.

Jesse is 100% staying, impeccable sauce.

Jesse wants $8mil for 8 years

Peter Dumbbell is a liar.

Jesse doesn't want $8mil

Jesse is currently an UFA. Next year will be an UFA. The following 2 consecutive years he is an UFA.

Jesse will go to Freo for 1year and return to Melbourne as an UFA.

Dumbells are heavy but can fly.

Iced vovos are not on the list but are. Tim Tams might be but Chocolate Royals are not.

We are receiving 32 combinations of draft picks.

It will all happen today definitely.

It will all happen tomorrow definitely.

AFL conspiracy will make it happen tomorrow night live on tv.

Tom Scully is still a krunt.

Rinse and repeat for next 20 pages.

Jesse's manager says Dumbbell is a liar.

What tomato sauce do you use?

[demoniac 1,330]

My money is on Neale being a Lion, Hogan a Docker and May/Kolo a Demon by 8:30pm Wednesday night.

 

[Lucifers Hero 39,599]

7 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

What other deals have we missed?  The one where Gold Coast and Adelaide swapped fourth round picks?

I didn't take @Leoncelli_36comments as a criticism and its a reasonable question/concern.

Mahoney said:  “For our scenario, there’s a few of the bigger decisions that need to be made, and then other decisions will fall off the back of that.”

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-10-08/day-one-trade-wrap

As the bigger decisions (Hogan/May) haven't been made we simply don't know what the 'other decisions' are (except maybe KK) so its fair to raise the question of what other deals are held up or will be missed. 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,685]

7 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Hi everyone.

Did we win the trade period yet?

0-0 at the moment, games in the balance.

[Dee Dubya 220]

2 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

What tomato sauce do you use?

I'd tell you, but no doubt another poster would demand that I prove it.

[Ted Lasso 19,311]

8 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Well I guess we will have to agree to disagree here. 

I would prefer to hold Hogan to his contract next year & target May as a FA next year assuming he doesn't go to the dogs or pies this year. 

Jesse hasn't come out and said he wants to go home... he is open to it but its clear he is also happy to stay, I would hardly say that us holding him against his will. 

That’s fair. Everyone judges the list a little bit differently 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,192]

43 minutes ago, djr said:

Who said we have offered 5 to Suns?

 

It's what they're expecting

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

5 hours ago, rpfc said:

Not since a certain poster with the initials RR has someone attempted to make theads entirely about himself.

It really does make the Ignore function a godsend...

Think I remember that guy. Didn’t he absolutely tan your backside during that monster $cully thread when he was the ONLY poster in the entire D’Land community to say Scully was telling fibs and was on his way to GW$? 

I think you had a similar whinge then about him making the thread “entirely about himself”. RR the narcissist! RR’s not a real Melbourne supporter! Please please mods ban RR! Etc etc. I do recall reading all those and many more slights against that guy way back when.

Well, here we are again my friend. Years later, similarly controversial circumstances centred on an emotionally sensitive trade, the D’Land sheep herd going one way ... a lone dissident poster bravely going another. And the chorus line of ninnies are up in arms again. Potting a guy who’s views are deemed to be heretical to the Fanboy Establishment.

I can empathise with how that RR fellow must have felt at that time. It does bring to mind that wonderful quote by the great Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi ... “Even if you are a minority of one, the Truth is the Truth.”

But you guys carry on going over your deluded permutations of Pick 5 and what the club will and won’t have in the kit bag by deadline tomorrow. You go on believing that Hogan’s manager really did put an $8mil/8year demand to Freo and that this is the reason negotiations went pear shaped. I realise it gives many of you a sense of solace that things really are happening behind the scenes and that those nincompoops in purple will magically be brought to heel at the eleventh hour.

Rpfc a few on here have sportingly laid cojones on the line with a wager to change their avatar if I’m right on this one. Tommy & Phil for you for old time’s sake? I reckon that poster RR who schooled you back in the day would get a bit of a chuckle seeing that, wherever he is out there in cyberspace.

”His-to-ry never repeats ... I tell myself before I go to sleep.” 

Edited October 16, 2018 by EnterTheDragon

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1 hour ago, ICU2 Jerry Jerry said:

Watching Dravid bat is more exciting than this trade period 

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