Farewell Jesse Hogan

[Dee Zephyr 19,267]

3 minutes ago, sue said:

OK, now that we've done the letter A let's move on to B and head towards 300.

 As long we spray the joint first....

[ManDee 7,134]

4 minutes ago, sue said:

OK, now that we've done the letter A let's move on to B and head towards 300.

Bravo

 

[Superunknown 4,217]

2 hours ago, binman said:

I have no idea 'who you are' (though if you are a poster who has changed their name and not made it clear - eg in the sig block as some respectful posters have - that's all I need to know to assess your credibility)

 

 

Can you clarify - is it a site guideline that if one changes their username that one must indicate this in a sig block or in some other fashion? It's not addressed here: http://demonland.com/forums/guidelines/

Edited October 8, 2018 by Superunknown

[SFebes 4,884]

9 minutes ago, sue said:

OK, now that we've done the letter A let's move on to B and head towards 300.

A is far from done, don't be so disrespectful to the no.1 letter of the alphabet.

[Superunknown 4,217]

19 minutes ago, Nasher said:

He joined on Sept 27, but he’s definitely been here before; he referred to @Fifty-5 as “old55” in another post recently, when 55 dropped the “old” years ago. I’m guessing Range Rover or poster of that type. I could probably do some sleuthing to get to the bottom of it, but I can’t really be bothered.

Genuine q - does it really matter?

[Superunknown 4,217]

We really need a daily precis.

204 pages. Neurotic, yet compulsory reading. (Not really).

And yet, life goes on.

I wish he'd make his mind up.

[Jibroni 5,003]

Just now, Superunknown said:

We really need a daily precis.

204 pages. Neurotic, yet compulsory reading. (Not really).

And yet, life goes on.

I wish he'd make his mind up.

Im predicting 300 before a trade actually happens!

 

[rjay 24,919]

6 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Can you clarify - is it a site guideline that if one changes their username that one must indicate this in a sig block or in some other fashion? It's not addressed here: http://demonland.com/forums/guidelines/

 

3 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Genuine q - does it really matter?

There were a couple of well known "rousers of rabble" on the site for a while...I guess some are pointing to a similar posting style.

Does it really matter?

Probably not... 

[jackaub 1,402]

6 hours ago, Pates said:

Interesting you say this but I would say it matches a lot of what I’m feeling about all this. Given the time this has played out and the fact that Hogan is still yet to make a decision leads me to believe that a strong part of Hogan wants to go home but not at the expense of his footballing dreams. 

All parties might well feel this is his best opportunity to get home, but Jesse himself may be feeling like Melbourne is his better chance at a premiership (that would be my opinion as well) and he isn’t as desperate to get home as others have in the past. 

He’s toured the facilities, he’s heard the pitch, he’s surely been told all the bells and whistles, and hopes and dreams. If he isn’t convinced by now he could be leaning towards staying. 

However if he is to stay I’d be looking for at least a two year extension, one year seems pretty pointless to me and I would prefer longer. 

HAS HE MET ROSS LYON YET? THAT MAY CHANGE HIS MIND!

[Demonland 72,176]

 

[Ted Lasso 19,513]

3 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Not sure how an offer to pruess has any bearing on the asking price for hogan. 

Key forward who is 23, rising star winner and stacks up with any key forward ever to play at the same stage if not better 

5&6 is a good deal

[John Demonic 5,795]

14 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

"Yet the club is prepared to give a fringe ruckman a four-year deal. "

Geez now i know how it feels to be a Labor MP taking a hammering from an agenda driven Murdoch rag 

 

Edited October 8, 2018 by johndemonic

[Demonland 72,176]

 

[Ouch! 2,262]

5 minutes ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

Not sure how an offer to pruess has any bearing on the asking price for hogan. 

Key forward who is 23, rising star winner and stacks up with any key forward ever to play at the same stage if not better 

5&6 is a good deal

it doesn't have any bearing.... also we might have offered Pruess a 4 year deal at 300k. It's not a big contract, but it's a contract with job security. With that said,... with a lot of clubs looking for rucks at the moment, West Coast, Richmond, etc... I don't quite understand coming to play behind Gawn.  

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

I doubt we get that, but that's the starting point.  You always ask for more than you want, so when you meet in the middle you get generally the right deal.

Plenty of water to go under the bridge with this one.

[Wells 11 5,399]

so much revealed in the word "yet" isnt there.  The only thing In our favour in that stupid article  is that the value of Preuss is being talked down. 

Maybe theres really no such things as "news" in the media anymore...in politics or sport. maybe its ALL just opinions now and who can make theirs the loudest. Eg. Theres no envinmental issue....Yes, there is one...no there isnt etc.  The more loud , more stupid and more opinionated the better for paper sales I guess. Depressing world we live in atm. Or maybe it was always like this and Ive just gotten old. 

Edited October 8, 2018 by Wells 11

[Ouch! 2,262]

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I doubt we get that, but that's the starting point.  You always ask for more than you want, so when you meet in the middle you get generally the right deal.

Plenty of water to go under the bridge with this one.

... the starting point is Freo and Lachie Neale, followed by Hogan saying he wants to move.

They have 3 first round picks to play with (if you look at next years pick too.) If they want Lobb and Hogan coming in, I suspect that these three picks go out the door, you might get some change coming back the other way, or you have to lose a quality player along with the trade.

 

[ManDee 7,134]

14 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

"Yet the club is prepared to give a fringe ruckman a four-year deal."

What a load of crap. What is the connection? This is the sort of low caliber reporting that gives journalist the reputation that they seem to deserve. 

1 We want two early fist round picks for Hogan if he wants to go home to WA.

2 We offer a ruckman a 4 year deal offering more game time than he gets at current club.

3 Journalist brains have been stolen by interplanetary travelers as a bit of a joke on the planet earth.

Therefore Damian Barrett will be Melbourne's new Ruck- Full Forward on a 9 year super $18million deal according to sources. Preuss returns to writing and Hogan receives huge offer to reprise role on TV series. FFS

[Dr. Gonzo 24,214]

11 hours ago, Unleash Hell said:

Gc didn't with Lynch.

 

Lynch was a free agent.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

5 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

... the starting point is Freo and Lachie Neale, followed by Hogan saying he wants to move.

They have 3 first round picks to play with (if you look at next years pick too.) If they want Lobb and Hogan coming in, I suspect that these three picks go out the door, you might get some change coming back the other way, or you have to lose a quality player along with the trade.

 

Of course, but I'm talking simply about a deal in general, which is what they mentioned above (if it's in fact true to begin with).

If Hogan wants to go home, then Freo will be paying fair price to get him.  I'm confident we will get what we need.

[Demons1858 1,760]

22 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

it doesn't have any bearing.... also we might have offered Pruess a 4 year deal at 300k. It's not a big contract, but it's a contract with job security. With that said,... with a lot of clubs looking for rucks at the moment, West Coast, Richmond, etc... I don't quite understand coming to play behind Gawn.  

Can't blame him for being attracted to job security. What VFL player knocks back a 4 year deal?

MFC would have sold the fact that Hogan will likely to be going and he has the chance to prove himself as our 3rd tall (note that Goodwin gave Spencer every chance to combine with Gawn previously). At worst, he will play games where teams have strong dual rucks combo's or when Gawn is injured. Going to 6:6:6 next year means the ball will be in the air so he would back himself to get a game.

Re Jessie, don't expect any news on that for some time. He is obviously wanting to go, but why would he make a fool of himself and nominated Freo only to find out shortly after that the Freo and Bris negotiations fall through and the draft picks Freo need from Neale deal are no longer available and return to MFC with his tail between his legs. Likewise May holding off on a decision

Edited October 8, 2018 by Demons1858

[Dr. Gonzo 24,214]

10 hours ago, CHF said:

I am hesitant to post this as it is very different from what has already been posted.

I have heard, from half a world away a couple of very interesting whispers with regard to Freo, MFC and Hogan.

_ Melbourne prepared to deal if Hogan is happy moving and if they get the asking price.

_ Hogan is not 100% sold on Freo. Not confident posting what I heard as it may get this place in trouble.

_ Hogan and Freo both feel this is the last best chance to get him to move clubs but there is uncertainty both ways between Freo and Hogan. 

_ MFC sitting quietly waiting to see what they need to do but will not sit without a decision any longer that tomorrow. There are too many other things that nee to get done.

My take on what I have heard, assuming it is correct, is that I am leaning towards Hogan staying another year and looking at another 1 year extension. I do not believe player or either club wants to go through this again next year.

IF all this is true it doesn't seem like Melbourne is too worried about keeping him. Where are the comments about Melbourne meeting Hogan/his manager desperately trying to convince him to stay? Haven't seen much of that mentioned.

[sue 9,102]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

IF all this is true it doesn't seem like Melbourne is too worried about keeping him. Where are the comments about Melbourne meeting Hogan/his manager desperately trying to convince him to stay? Haven't seen much of that mentioned.

The thing is we haven't seen much of anything mentioned that could be considered from a reliable source.  And that is probably as it should be.

[Sir Why You Little 37,034]

Looks like it’s still picks 5 & 6 or the deal is off

Good. 

 

[Bates Mate 4,486]

4 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

IF all this is true it doesn't seem like Melbourne is too worried about keeping him. Where are the comments about Melbourne meeting Hogan/his manager desperately trying to convince him to stay? Haven't seen much of that mentioned.

It's been obvious we are more in favor of getting a good deal for him now than trying to convince him to sign up long term