Accuracy

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,816]

The Herald Sun today (9/8) has a table showing accuracy for all teams over the period 2017-18. (I'm not sure if finals are included in the data). It is simply ranking teams based on how many times they scored more behinds than goals. St Kilda is worst with it occurring 28 times. We're the best with it only having happened 8 times out of 41 games. 

The story is about St Kilda, so I didn't read it all, but I wonder why we are the best? Is it that we have more set shots given we have two power forwards? Is it that we have fewer shots from tight angles? Do we have more players with better foot skills? I guess it's probably a mix of all of these things. 

 

 

[rjay 24,990]

4 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

The Herald Sun today (9/8) has a table showing accuracy for all teams over the period 2017-18. (I'm not sure if finals are included in the data). It is simply ranking teams based on how many times they scored more behinds than goals. St Kilda is worst with it occurring 28 times. We're the best with it only having happened 8 times out of 41 games. 

The story is about St Kilda, so I didn't read it all, but I wonder why we are the best? Is it that we have more set shots given we have two power forwards? Is it that we have fewer shots from tight angles? Do we have more players with better foot skills? I guess it's probably a mix of all of these things. 

 

 

I've seen this covered before...

It's because we take more of our shots from close in to the goals.

Seems part of the plan.

[DubDee 25,917]

there is some game style involved for sure but I think it is mostly down to skill and technical ability to kick accurately. So many teams do not value straight kicking and recruit poor kicks, which is insane as it often decides games.

The pies are another one that do not recruit good kicks for goal. they would have won many more games over the years if they did

[Diamond_Jim 12,598]

Our accuracy over recent weeks has taken a bit of a hit.(For example 2 goals 6 behinds for a quarter against GC). During the purple patch around the game at Alice Springs we were remarkably accurate.

Shame about the Saints accuracy... really bad except when they last played us !!

PS would like to see the stat in reverse.... ie against which teams are other teams more accurate. I wonder if our defensive structure makes it easier/ harder to kick goals/behinds against MFC.

Edited August 9, 2018 by Diamond_Jim

[Earl Hood 6,086]

Our set shot accuracy worries me of late. Last week we should have kicked at least 4 extra goals from set shots all inside 50 and within 30 degrees either side of centre. Tommy has suddenly become iffy in front of goal. Not sure why. In the run to the finals this inaccuracy could come back to hurt. 

[titan_uranus 25,020]

8 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

The Herald Sun today (9/8) has a table showing accuracy for all teams over the period 2017-18. (I'm not sure if finals are included in the data). It is simply ranking teams based on how many times they scored more behinds than goals. St Kilda is worst with it occurring 28 times. We're the best with it only having happened 8 times out of 41 games. 

The story is about St Kilda, so I didn't read it all, but I wonder why we are the best? Is it that we have more set shots given we have two power forwards? Is it that we have fewer shots from tight angles? Do we have more players with better foot skills? I guess it's probably a mix of all of these things. 

The answer I think comes from a few things.

We take more shots than most sids from in front of the goals. That's in part due to how we focus on moving the ball and where we usually aim to take marks (which is also a weakness of ours, in that when we're off we're repeatedly belting it forward to the same spot, 20-30m out directly in front).

We also have a selfless-ness about us, where players in the pockets are looking to square it up or pass it off to find someone better placed. Sometimes that comes back to bite us, though.

And I suppose otherwise part of it is skill. Even though we cringe at some basic misses (Petracca and ANB are culprits here), we're obviously more talented than a side like St Kilda and so we nail kicks more often than they do.

[Chook 15,013]

31 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Our set shot accuracy worries me of late. Last week we should have kicked at least 4 extra goals from set shots all inside 50 and within 30 degrees either side of centre. Tommy has suddenly become iffy in front of goal. Not sure why. In the run to the finals this inaccuracy could come back to hurt. 

I wasn't there, but multiple people have said it was frickin' windy last week vs GC at the G. I think that accounts for it. Tom McDonald kicks the ball straight, but not smart. He's not one to count on fickle breezes or anything like that. He kicks the ball low and hard to a general area, and then hopes there's no breeze basically.

Edited August 9, 2018 by Chook

[Nasher 33,616]

I can’t speak for the effort but more often than not when a team kicks a lot of behinds, it’s because they’re taking hard shots - either flying shots under pressure or set shots from hard positions. The opposition scoring a lot of behinds can actually be a sign of good defensive pressure. 

The games where I’ve seen us most accurate are games where we take marks from easy positions to kick goals from.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

3 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I can’t speak for the effort but more often than not when a team kicks a lot of behinds, it’s because they’re taking hard shots - either flying shots under pressure or set shots from hard positions. The opposition scoring a lot of behinds can actually be a sign of good defensive pressure. 

The games where I’ve seen us most accurate are games where we take marks from easy positions to kick goals from.

In general, I agree with this, except for the case of St Kilda. Their goal kicking is just noticeably awful. They miss so many of those 30/40 out, slight angle type of shots.

[Mach5 4,768]

11 hours ago, rjay said:

I've seen this covered before...

It's because we take more of our shots from close in to the goals.

Seems part of the plan.

 

Surely it is. Similar to the current day evolved NBA strategy (a la GSW/Houston/etc.) of taking mainly shots that are either high percentage (lay-ups/dunks) or high pay-off (3s) in favour of the mid-range game of previous decades.

You don’t miss often when you’re kicking from the goalsquare.

[DEE fence 5,028]

12 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

The Herald Sun today (9/8) has a table showing accuracy for all teams over the period 2017-18. (I'm not sure if finals are included in the data). It is simply ranking teams based on how many times they scored more behinds than goals. St Kilda is worst with it occurring 28 times. We're the best with it only having happened 8 times out of 41 games. 

The story is about St Kilda, so I didn't read it all, but I wonder why we are the best? Is it that we have more set shots given we have two power forwards? Is it that we have fewer shots from tight angles? Do we have more players with better foot skills? I guess it's probably a mix of all of these things. 

 

 

I think I have the answer - there is a high correlation to our score assists and lack of selfishness. This team first attitude is the reason, players check for who is in the very best position and pass it, even if they are a reasonable chance of dobbing the goal themselves.

[John Demonic 5,816]

2 hours ago, Forest Demon said:

In general, I agree with this, except for the case of St Kilda. Their goal kicking is just noticeably awful. They miss so many of those 30/40 out, slight angle type of shots.

That's what happens when you hire a fox footy boundary rider/joker in Ben Dixon for a goal kicking coach. And don't they also have Danny Frawley in as a a part time defensive coach? Seems like a bit of a farce down there.

Edited August 9, 2018 by johndemonic