Roos on Oliver

[Gorgoroth 12,950]

They should show the time on ground for those players as Oliver use to play little game time early on.

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

1 hour ago, Loose Men Everywhere said:

There's also a clue to our next CEO on the advertising. If only we'd seen it...

and at the risk of derailing...did you notice Jordan Lewis going to ground right at the end though... writing was on the wall back then ?

[Wiseblood 24,637]

10 minutes ago, Danelska said:

and at the risk of derailing...did you notice Jordan Lewis going to ground right at the end though... writing was on the wall back then ?

I also noticed him taking the final mark on the siren to seal the victory, as well as winning a contested ball that got it inside 50 which eventually lead to the match winning goal.

I guess we see what we want to see.

[trout 385]

I heard on the radio today Dangerfield and some others on Fox last night were pushing for the draft age to be increased to 20. I know Roos has been talking about this for a while also. If this was the case our current B and F winner would only be in his first year of AFL so for that very reason alone I am against it. The kid is a freak the only young talent to compare in my time would be the Ox.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Anyone have a problem with $8mill over 8 years?

He'd be 29 then, with 4 x premierships, 3 x Norm Smith's and a couple of Brownlows. 

Edited July 10, 2018 by Moonshadow

[brendan 3,437]

48 minutes ago, trout said:

I heard on the radio today Dangerfield and some others on Fox last night were pushing for the draft age to be increased to 20. I know Roos has been talking about this for a while also. If this was the case our current B and F winner would only be in his first year of AFL so for that very reason alone I am against it. The kid is a freak the only young talent to compare in my time would be the Ox.

Yea I don’t agree with it, if your good enough at 19 to play AFL Then so be it you shouldn’t have to wait 

[Demonated 252]

45 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Anyone have a problem with $8mill over 8 years?

He'd be 29 then, with 4 x premierships, 3 x Norm Smith's and a couple of Brownlows. 

It will probably be at least 850,000 a year so a mil isn’t unreasonable. Someone will offer him that for sure.

he is only scratching the surface with some of his abilities such as pace, marking and kicking. Every chance to be the games best mid in 2/3 years.

Gawn, Hogan and Oliver are who we look to keep at all costs. Even if it means losing Petracca or Brayshaw in time which I hope isn’t the case. Viney isn’t going anywhere and we have Tmac and Lever locked down. That’s our nucleus.

[P-man 13,366]

His interview on the club podcast is a cracker. Terrific down to earth fella.

[wrecka45 92]

On 7/10/2018 at 12:09 PM, Lord Travis said:

Someone post this gif again please! Gets me going every time!

There you go!

Edited July 13, 2018 by wrecka45

[beelzebub 23,370]

He's a footballing freak ... And he's all ours

Onya Clarry. Such fun to watch.

[wrecka45 92]

On 7/10/2018 at 3:59 PM, Gorgoroth said:

They should show the time on ground for those players as Oliver use to play little game time early on.

You beat me to it! 

Oliver only played 67% of game time in his first year compared to 80% for Cripps in his first full season (stats from Footywire)

Oliver second year 77% Cripps 83%

If Oliver had played closer to 80% for his first season he would be leading

Contested possessions (by a country mile)

Tackles (also by the proverbial)

Handballs by possibly close to 200!!!

and would be getting close to Diesel and Chris McDermott for total possessions (they were both significantly older then Oliver when they started (Diesel 21 and Mcdermott 31)

and the gap to Cripps for centre clearances would drop significantly.

 

Utter Freak

 

BTW Cripps is a also freak who is currently having to run at 90% of time on the ground this season. What would carlton do if he went down.

[SFebes 4,884]

30 minutes ago, wrecka45 said:

There you go!

How the hell did he even do that? lol

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

8 minutes ago, SFebey said:

How the hell did he even do that? lol

With ease.

[monoccular 17,428]

On 7/10/2018 at 12:33 PM, Dr. Gonzo said:

Jordie McKenzie just behind Oliver in the tackles stat!

 

On 7/10/2018 at 1:19 PM, DubDee said:

The original Number 13: "Tackles McKenzie".  loved watching that bloke tackle

Clarrie is the Jordie look alike in a quite a few ways.

I just loved watching Jordie's workrate and endeavour, and he always tackled like a bull at a gate.  Pity he lacked the skills* but was always a favourite based on his endeavour and heart.

Now we have a seriously upgrade version

* it was his slick handball that helped set up the goal by Salem to beat the Bombers a few years back (?the last time we were given a Friday night at the G, and I think even that was an away game?  - of course the Blues and the Saints have done so much to deserve their plethora of these the past couple of years - NOT!)

Edited July 13, 2018 by monoccular

[jnrmac 20,061]

2 hours ago, wrecka45 said:

There you go!

This was his 11th game I believe.....

[monoccular 17,428]

Roos on Oliver

I read the title thread and thought - no, Paul would be far too slow even in his prime.

[praha 11,240]

On 7/10/2018 at 7:59 PM, trout said:

I heard on the radio today Dangerfield and some others on Fox last night were pushing for the draft age to be increased to 20. I know Roos has been talking about this for a while also. If this was the case our current B and F winner would only be in his first year of AFL so for that very reason alone I am against it. The kid is a freak the only young talent to compare in my time would be the Ox.

Oliver is rare though. I feel that unless the draft age does rise, teams will draft more inside players like him to feed into the growing congestion. Unless the AFL actively addresses it, which it will, because it loves changing rules and the way the game is played whenever...the game changes because of new rules.

Oliver undoubtedly needs to add more to his resume. He has the potential to be better than Dusty imo. 

Edited July 13, 2018 by praha

[Diamond_Jim 12,585]

Drafting at 20 makes some sense and we have talked about it before.

The trouble is that unlike the US College system which provides ultra high level coaching we do not have the equivalent base here.

Somehow there has to be a secondary path to AFL. Although we see the occasional draftee from VFL I am not sure that is the best system.

[layzie 33,796]

Has anyone played a better first 50 games? Gee it’s a tough one! Maybe Judd 

[Jaded No More 68,915]

On 7/10/2018 at 5:24 PM, frankie_d said:

Last year against the West Coast, he got the ball out to Hibberd -> TMac -> Miracle.

No Clarry, no win!

 

 

Seriously that game is everything. 

To think that we went on to lose in round 23 and miss finals. Just shithouse. 

[Willmoy1947 4,086]

On 7/10/2018 at 3:23 PM, Lucifer's Hero said:

Cripps had an extra preseason and played 9/10 games in his first year and is now 23 for 67 games. Clarrie is 21 next week for 50 games.

So, I'm pretty sure Clarrie has Cripps covered in terms of performance at the same age. 

It is petty to use his performance for 'metres gained' as a possible reason for 2017 non AA selection.    More likely, the selectors looked at his so called 'staging' and run-in with a Carlton supporter. The selection panel:  Gillon McLachlan (chairman), Kevin Bartlett, Luke Darcy, Andrew Dillon, Danny Frawley, Glen Jakovich, Chris Johnson, Cameron Ling, Matthew Richardson and Warren Tredrea.   Some of those were very vocal about Clarrie 'diving' when hit by Schofield. 

They won't dare leave him out this year!

Name the Divers on the selection Panel, and i've seen most of them play.

Only one i cannot remember seeing , NOT DIVE, apart from Dill, guess who?

[Jaded No More 68,915]

Weak as [censored]

[picket fence 17,166]

Just such a brilliant artesian at his craft, knows where to run, what daleks are around him, when to kick, when to handball, where the goals are...just a natural footballer, but with an uncanniness …….. I haven't seen since Robbie!