We paid pick 66 for Balic last year who could only muster 4 games for a garbage Freo outfit. Kent is probably best 22 in 2018's 4th best side. Pick in the 40s or jam it.

  On 26/09/2018 at 08:37, The Chazz said:

You started it.

Severely overrating Kent.  He's just not that good.

Agree. 

He asks for a trade and everyone thinks he is Eddy Betts. 

Fringe player at best.  

  On 26/09/2018 at 09:06, Adzman said:

We paid pick 66 for Balic last year who could only muster 4 games for a garbage Freo outfit. Kent is probably best 22 in 2018's 4th best side. Pick in the 40s or jam it.

Out of contract, he can just walk. 

I think he has the body for contested footy and imagine saints see us as the best midfield for that.  

They won’t have to pay a lot to get him and any knowledge he has to help them develop

  On 26/09/2018 at 08:43, BAMF said:

Really? I didnt get to watch as many neutral games as I normally do this year. Why have the fans turned on him?

They think he's soft, which he might be. Was moved forward to try to deliver some skill and goals when the wing wasn't working out for him this season.

  On 26/09/2018 at 09:14, Demons11 said:

Out of contract, he can just walk. 

Not quite.

He's not qualified to be a free agent based on a service, if Melbourne were to delist him then yes he would become a free agent and go wherever he wants.

If Melbourne have offered him a contract which it seems most likely seen as he wasn't delisted, then a trade must be completed for him to move.

If no trade can be completed then he can nominate for either the national or pre-season draft where anyone can pick him with their pick.

Done shoulder twice in year. Courageous player who sticks up for his mates and doesn't shirk contests. Kicks like a mule and well liked. Required player in my book and someone who could make us very sorry

  On 26/09/2018 at 08:38, Diamond_Jim said:

I can understand the sentiment but you need to consider what we offer vs the Saints.

He can refuse a one year or a one plus one deal from us (would you offer more) and stand out thus allowing himself to be picked up by the Saints in the second draft (whatever it's called these days). No one is likely to poach him.

This is one where we can and need to be generous just like Freo were with us and Balic last year.

 

Hey Jimbo, I see where your coming from but in all fairness you couldn't possibly compare Balic's situation to Kent's

It might end up being that way tho.

  On 26/09/2018 at 09:32, boydie said:

Not quite.

He's not qualified to be a free agent based on a service, if Melbourne were to delist him then yes he would become a free agent and go wherever he wants.

If Melbourne have offered him a contract which it seems most likely seen as he wasn't delisted, then a trade must be completed for him to move.

If no trade can be completed then he can nominate for either the national or pre-season draft where anyone can pick him with their pick.

The club rates him, but he must have been told no midfield minutes are available, only see him as a small forward.

I would have liked to see him on the park more in the last couple of seasons. When he is fit he has the ability to play very good footy. The club obviously see value in him as he was not delisted. Their task now is to see what value he has in a trade to the Saints and to maximize it. 

We have had two retirements in Vince and Balic, and we have delisted 5 out of contract players, with the exit of Kent that will leave 8 spaces open on the senior and rookie list. Around 20% turnover of the list after a successful season seems like a large turnover to me. It will be an interesting trade draft period.

There must be some very clear planning in place for the next month or so that the club is keeping very tight lipped about.

  On 26/09/2018 at 08:36, MadAsHell said:

Melbourne: Kent to Saints & Pick 48 to North

St Kilda: Lonie to North & Pick 57 to Melbourne 

North Melbourne: Preuss to Melbourne & Pick 64 to St Kilda

 

Melbourne gain Preuss & 57 for Kent & 48

St Kilda gain Kent & 64 for Lonie & 57

North Melbourne gain Lonie & 48 for Preuss & 64

 

Kent to Saints

Lonie to Kangas

Preuss to Demons

This is what being a good side looks like. Fringe players like Dean "Hurt Locker" Kent will seek opportunity elsewhere whilst we move in some ready made pieces. I wish him the absolute best. Can play. But not an AFL midfielder with his tank and too injury prone for any more than 1y deals.

Hope he makes a fist of it at the Saints

I'll be sad to see him go.  He has pace and a great penetrating kick.  Sadly his injury issues aren't going to get any better at the Saints.  Still, he's doing the right thing for his family, taking a better pay packet and a longer contract.  Good luck to him. 

Kent for Austin?

Only on a club forum would you see serious suggestions of a second round pick for a player like Kent. La la land stuff. If we get offered a third round pick we should take it and run. Pick 60 or thereabouts is his worth, particularly with his injury history.

That’s not to say he doesn’t have upside and could turn out to be a great pick up for the Saints, but he remains a gamble.

  On 26/09/2018 at 14:43, Dee tention said:

Kent for Austin?

who?

  On 26/09/2018 at 14:43, Dee tention said:

Kent for Austin?

Steve?

Six million $ contract may be a stumbling block.

  On 26/09/2018 at 09:45, Win4theAges said:

The club rates him, but he must have been told no midfield minutes are available, only see him as a small forward.

I think the sticking point would be the three years.

If I’m Josh Mahoney and I’ve got Dean Kent in the room saying he’s got St Kilda offering three, I’m saying “no worries, thanks for everything, we’ll get the trade done for you”.

  On 26/09/2018 at 18:17, Rocky said:

who?

Powers

When Kent played well I loved his contribution: robust, a good kick, a 'goer'. 

63 games is 6 seasons tells you something wasn't/isn't right. I suspect his body let him down too often. I wish him all the best, like I say, I loved it when he was good, but for the Saints to make a 3 year investment reeks of naivety to me.

Edited September 26, 20186 yr by dieter

  On 26/09/2018 at 08:14, Jaded said:

Just had a baby. Probably wants a longer term contract than we are willing to offer. More likely to get to the midfield with the Saints, which apparently is something he wants. Good luck to him. I think he can be a handy player for them and I hope his body holds up. 

Congratulations, Jaded. I like your direct, yet subtle, matter-of-fact announcement. 

  On 26/09/2018 at 08:24, Win4theAges said:

I hope the club aren't to generous and don't take anything higher than a low 3rd rounder. 

That's their 3rd rnd pick.

About right

We got both McDonalds with similar.

( edit: Sorry Chook.Didnt see your post )

Edited September 27, 20186 yr by beelzebub

Happy for trade of Garlett for pick 50 as well. Pick-anything actually

  On 26/09/2018 at 07:30, chook fowler said:

Pick 57 should get us another TMac or OMac.

So 50/50 at best?

  On 27/09/2018 at 00:29, jnrmac said:

So 50/50 at best?

So we need 2 x 3rd rounders to be sure ? ???