Is Brayshaw more rounded than the Trac?

[DeezNuts 624]

Ok, so we saw Gus play his best game ever whilst largely watching an average game from Trac. 

What I saw from Gus: 

- many second efforts and continuous pressure

- beautiful awareness around Gawns taps

- calm in the storm when being contested

- penetrating and accurate i50’s 

- a great tank of fuel

What I’ve seen from Trac:

- unassailable ability to hold ground when contested

- aerial superiority

- moderate tank

Put the last two seasons behind, but I’m getting the sense that Gus is more developed or well-rounded than the Trac..

So glad he’s over the concussions, couldn’t be more happier for the lad after that game!!!

Thoughts?

 

Edited May 10, 2018 by Grapeviney

[Fork 'em 7,008]

The way he come out firing during his 1st season it was plain to see Brayshaw was going to be a gun.
Hit a few road bumps over the next couple years mainly due to his raw courage and is now starting to find the rhythm again.

Petracca just needs to improve the tank and find more ball.

 

Edited May 7, 2018 by Fork 'em

[What 18,810]

Our drafting from the 2012 draft onward has been superb.  The only pick we really blew was Toumpas at pick 4 in 2012.

Anyone know which draft was Jason Taylors first with the MFC?

[Demon Disciple 12,313]

13 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Anyone know which draft was Jason Taylors first with the MFC?

He came on board in January 2013, so i guess it would've been the 2013 draft.

Edited May 7, 2018 by Demon Disciple

[Goffer 256]

Gus should be up there with T & O Mac as priority 1s to re-sign. He’s a gem of an inside midfielder, Chunk’s natural replacement and more naturally talented to boot (with all due respect to Jonesy who’s a club legend and was our heart and soul in the dark years).

[Rod Grinter Riot Squad 5,654]

Both have huge upside, Gus needs to keep his head out of danger, potential gun,

 

Tracc needs to put down his dogs (just kidding - sort of ) learn to kick at goal, but I am a huge fan of Clarrie and think he can be one of the best players in the league, but Tracc can be better (Gus as much as I love him won’t).

[Watts the matter 1,235]

I think this thread is a gross over reaction to a long awaited impressive game from Brayshaw.

Trac has the attributes to be the best player in the comp at one stage, Brayshaw doesn't.

I was encouraged by Brayshaw's performance on the weekend, but I'm going to need to see it against some better opposition before I get on the bandwagon with everyone else. For me, his kicking is always going to hold him back.

I think some of your observations are off the mark also.

44 minutes ago, DeezNuts said:

Ok, so we saw Gus play his best game ever whilst largely watching an average game from Trac. 

What I saw from Gus: 

- many second efforts and continuous pressure (sometimes, but no better than Trac)

- beautiful awareness around Gawns taps

- calm in the storm when being contested 

- penetrating and accurate i50’s (strongly disagree and find it strange you list this for Brayshaw and not Petracca who is a much more penetrating kick)

- a great tank of fuel (I have not seen any evidence of this)

What I’ve seen from Trac:

- unassailable ability to hold ground when contested

- aerial superiority

- moderate tank

Put the last two seasons behind, but I’m getting the sense that Gus is more developed or well-rounded than the Trac..

So glad he’s over the concussions, couldn’t be more happier for the lad after that game!!!

Thoughts?

 

There is a reason Petracca is the 3rd rated small/medium forward on the AFL player ratings behind only Greene and Betts. He is elite at what he does. 

[MurDoc516 1,529]

Brayshaw may be more all rounded but i don't think he has the highs of Petracca

 

[Gorgoroth 13,122]

Tracs ceiling is... well, there is none.

Gus will be a good bloody solid mid.

 

[Gipsy Danger 1,067]

6 hours ago, Goffer said:

Gus should be up there with T & O Mac as priority 1s to re-sign. He’s a gem of an inside midfielder, Chunk’s natural replacement and more naturally talented to boot (with all due respect to Jonesy who’s a club legend and was our heart and soul in the dark years).

Still is now

[beelzebub 23,384]

They're different. 

Happy to have both.

[SFebes 4,884]

Petracca has more upside I think, but up to him to push himself mentally and physically. It is great to see Brayshaw find form, could have been touch and go if he got another concussion. Petracca seems a little stuck in second gear but I’m excitingly waiting for him to tear the comp apart like we all hope, fingers crossed he doesn’t go all Colin on us. Needs and wants more midfield time. Both still kids with exciting futures.

[monoccular 17,607]

3 minutes ago, SFebey said:

Petracca has more upside I think, but up to him to push himself mentally and physically. It is great to see Brayshaw find form, could have been touch and go if he got another concussion. Petracca seems a little stuck in second gear but I’m excitingly waiting for him to tear the comp apart like we all hope, fingers crossed he doesn’t go all Colin on us. Needs and wants more midfield time. Both still kids with exciting futures.

IMO Tracc has already surpassed Col. 

[SFebes 4,884]

2 minutes ago, monoccular said:

IMO Tracc has already surpassed Col. 

Haha, I think you may be right! He certainly has all the tricks, would love to see a Zorko type game this year to drool over. He’s so strong around the hips and clean. I wonder why he’s not thrown in the midfield more often? I suppose we were a bit stuck without Weid and TMac previously 

[jacey 333]

Disagree. Trac is very good forward. So dangerous that he spends more time there. Like danger n Martin, Will explode  when his tank increases when they move to the middle fulltime. 

Angus looks like a pure midfielder. Isn't as effective as hb or hf so not as rounded as Trac 

[jackaub 1,402]

Needs to want it more and  second gear is a great description

Work work work push push push

Really interesting point in his career

It could go either way

Ie only has or thinks he only has second gear

Or he finds out how to thrash the gearbox and finds over drive

Is as much a mental / personality trait as anything

Here's hoping  one thing for sure we should find out this year

Could be a great and daring player here's hoping

 

[Wizza 170]

Another Difference between the two is Gus can nail set shots. Until Trac can be consistent in that department he'll always remain just a good footballer.

[jackaub 1,402]

Yes Wiz

Very unreliable in front needs along with a few others needs to practise

Generally poor kicking for goal across a lot of teams and players

I wonder why ? Perhaps young boys don't sleep with their  footy any more.

[jnrmac 20,205]

Who is Bayshaw?

[Salems Lot 2,661]

Just a side note; I am thrilled that our first 2 draft picks in the 2017 draft are playing already and playing well.  Taylor is one of our most important signings in the past 10 years

[hemingway 7,633]

What has always impressed me about Brayshaw is his intensity and work ethic.

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

5 minutes ago, hemingway said:

What has always impressed me about Brayshaw is his intensity and work ethic.

Clearly evident by winning a hard ball in our defensive goalsquare in the third quarter then following up a minute later kicking a running goal.

[demon-4-life 467]

Love em both.

Both have seen tough times and had to overcome them (Tracc - ACL, Gus - Concussion)

Both were made to earn their spots when returning from injuries, especially Tracc with his broken toe. 

I'd tend to agree with most of the posts here.  But in fairness to the OP, I'd say Gus probably does most/all things well.  Tracc does a lot of things well and some things extraordinarily.  

As pointed out, Tracc's penetrating kick is unbelievable, especially when doing I50s.  Gus set shots and shots on goal on the run and kicking both sides of the body I'd take over Tracc.  

Either way...THEY'RE DEES!!!!  Let's hope Gus re-signs ASAP

[beelzebub 23,384]

? I wonder which is more rounded

 

[ProperDee 1,698]

One needs to get his ego in check and play 100 minutes of football. Brayshaw is doing everything right.