Andrew Gaff

[Dee tention 617]

He will be available for Round 6 for the Dees!

And it will be against either the Eagles or Freo at the G... lol

[DeeSpencer 26,081]

12 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I think Gaff’s defence made a mistake arguing provocation as part of its case. Much better had he thrown himself on the mercy of the Tribunal.  

I don't like it as a defence but I think it's reasonable to explain his actions. 

I can give a guy 6-7 weeks who didn't aim for the head and was trying to whack a player in the chest who was blocking him out of the play.

I'd have to give someone 10+ who randomly walked up to any old opponent and aimed straight for the head.

In my mind the vision is reasonably conclusive that it was the former not the latter but it's his job to explain it.

If he's made an error it's asking for 3 weeks or half the 8-12 range. I would've stated that 6-8 with a discount for a good record and guilty plea back to 5-6 would most likely see a result of 6-8. Asking too low just insults the intelligence of the jury.

[No10 461]

2 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Again, that is true.  I was referring to Gaff's reaction (none too happy with Simmo) and how it might affect his decision to stay or go.

I read differently, the coach tried to refocus him on the game, I didn’t think Gaff was upset by that.

My feeling is he’s more likely to stay. Alternatively, if WC handled him in the same manner we did Bugg, then I think he’d go.

Even down to the 4 votes, I think they’ve played this ruthlessly.

[SFebes 4,884]

Gaff said he didn’t want to go back on the ground.

I still think 8.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,966]

Deliberations have finished. Fastest finger first. 

Edited August 7, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[Whispering_Jack 30,664]

8

[Clintosaurus 7,861]

8 weeks. Will debut for us in either Round 1, 2 or 3.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

8 weeks.  Fair suspension IMO.

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,274]

Tribunal got it right ...

[layzie 33,994]

8 it is 

[old dee 23,872]

8 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

Gaff said he didn’t want to go back on the ground.

I still think 8.

Undoubtably shows he has more empathy than his coach and club

[Ethan Tremblay 30,966]

I sort of hope West Coast make the GF now so he can play his first game next season sooner with us. 

Edited August 7, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

13 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

I still think 8.

you should be on the tribunal MSF?

[dazzledavey36 55,347]

Welcome to the Dees Gaff.

[gregdemon 624]

6 minutes ago, layzie said:

8 it is 

Not enough   should have been 10 Do not want him at dees

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

Interesting that it was at the low end of the penalty spectrum requested by the AFL.

Cynicism prevents me from delving further

[chook fowler 19,546]

Gaff is genuinely hurting and remorseful - Methcoast and Simpson on the other hand have been an absolute disgrace implying provocation and it being an accident. 

Disgusting performance by them.

[Dee tention 617]

Round 4 debut for the Dees!

[DeeSpencer 26,081]

TBH I think a fairer penalty would've been to rule him out for the season, whether that be 5 or 7 weeks, missing finals with your team a live chance is very harsh. Tribunals should have the power to enforce a time sanction not just a week sanction.

Oh well, 8 it is. Just think he'll now have to sit between 1-3 weeks next year when he would've served enough time this year.

There's no need to overtly punish the individual. Gaff knows what he's done. 

There's no need to deter the rest of the comp. It's happened once in nearly 200 games this season.

[McQueen 17,867]

I think Gaff should appeal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

jokes.... 8 is about right.

[SaberFang 7,151]

5 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Interesting that it was at the low end of the penalty spectrum requested by the AFL.

Cynicism prevents me from delving further

Gaff's lawyer wanted as low as 3. AFL wanted as high as 12. They usually split the difference with these things. 8 is a fair whack and feels right to me. Deservedly two weeks worse than Bugg. 

And yeah, that reflects [censored] awfully on Simpson if Gaff told him he didn't want to be on the ground and it was ignored. What the actual [censored], do the Eagles not have any ethics? Pathetic, especially considering the margin was so heavily in their favour. 

Shithouse people management from a coach. 

Edited August 7, 2018 by SaberFang

[Wolfgang219 73]

Think it was way too light... 

 

The AFL want to be a community leaders in all sorts of PC issues but not in its own affair. The exact same as the drug saga. 

 

If a player did this this in the VAFA or another league what would be the expected punishment. Gaff should of received the same. 

[Big Demon 197]

With Gaffs ultra clean record this is ridiculous. Two weeks would have been fair considering the low impact jab on a serial pest but eight is plain crazy. When I saw young Francis of Essendon get a 2K fine for a stock standard bump earlier in the day I thought Gaff might get screwed too.

 

[Sigil 1,001]

More than Hall which is a tick and if something happens like this again (and I certainly hope not) it will go up again in an increment.

And related/not related I said this to a mate on FB;

Out of this whole Gaff thing, I hope one thing the AFL starts doing is suspending players for jumper punches and hitting people in the guts. Seeing players on their knees spewing and no sanction sets up retaliation (and yes the retaliation is just as wrong and the offender deserves everything they get). Deescalation should be important too.

Edited August 7, 2018 by Sigil

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

Have a think guys and gals.... even if he hugs the Brayshaw family I think he will upon further reflection go to a non Brayshaw club just to save everyone the uncomfortable nature of being team mates.

The old clean slate theory. North may get their star after all.